Re: Requesting the creation of a Diversity and Inclusion committee reporting to the President

+ ComDev Com Dev we intend to move the D&I responsibility to a separate Presidents committee. The outputs will be fully integrated with ComDev, but actions will be separate in order to allow a scalpel like approach independent of the broader interests of ComDev which should focus on all communi

Re: Requesting the creation of a Diversity and Inclusion committee reporting to the President

As the originating VP I will state that the ComDev PMC was never setup to address D&I directly. It was set up to be a "welcome mat" for new people to the ASF. Predominently it was about running Google Summer of Code. The resolution was broader than this to allow an appropriate growth in scope. T

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

It is very complicated. For example, your assumption that the Hijab signifies sexism is contested by every single woman I have known who wears one (which admittedly is a low number and not at all representative of the bigger picture). That said, there are problems everywhere. We can't solve the

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

veryone feels comfortable to contribute regardless of the various identities they hold. Gj On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:18 PM Ross Gardler wrote: > It is very complicated. For example, your assumption that the Hijab > signifies sexism is contested by every single woman I have known who wear

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

Naomi, That is as unnecessary and as unhelpful as the "humor" you (rightly) pulled Geertjan up on earlier. Lets hold everyone to the same standard. Ross From: Naomi Slater Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 3:30 PM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: Diversity in a d

Re: ApacheCon (Was: Re: Mailing list : public - private and external contributors)

+1 Having external people help us understand is part of the proposed actions put forward here. I too have heard Ruth speak, but as Jim says he's already embarrassed her enough ;-) Ross From: Jim Jagielski Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:14 PM To: diversity@apache

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

ople who are clearly trolling, engaging in bad faith, or otherwise trying to frustrate our efforts On Sat 11. May 2019 at 01:17, Ross Gardler wrote: > Naomi, > > That is as unnecessary and as unhelpful as the "humor" you (rightly) > pulled Geertjan up

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

Agreed RTM can be a good answer. I desperately wanted to find an excellent TEDx talk on why a the Hijab is not a symbol of oppression (perhaps that should be "not always" I don't know). 15 minutes RTM replaced a lifetime of "education" for me. Unfortunately I was unable to find it. An M with a

Re: Diversity in a diverse world

.com/talks/yassmin_abdel_magied_what_does_my_headscarf_mean_to_you Posted here to ensure I can find it again, but a great entry for [R|T]FM resources. Ross ____ From: Ross Gardler Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 2:57 PM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: Diversity in a diverse world

Re: What do *I* think the D&I proposal means?

"Personally, I see the D&I President's committee proposal very similarly to what the people volunteering to do the work have been actively working on here on diversity@, so I'd like to include them here." Thank you. Nuff said. Get Outlook for Android __

Re: FAQ and education mailing list

+1 to not another list, use subject tag "[FAQ]" From: Bertrand Delacretaz Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:30 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: FAQ and education mailing list Hi, On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 5:19 PM Patricia Shanahan wrote: > ...I don't want my

Re: Outreachy Internships can Improve Diversity at The ASF

I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce @Carol Smith who joined the list at my request. Carol is a day job colleague, different teams, Carol is in the Open Source Programs Office, I'm in Azure, but we cross often when it comes to broad open source strategy. S

Re: FAQ and education mailing list

). and I can't over-emphasize how much > we put that at risk if we allow meta discussion to take place here > > > > On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 19:50, Ross Gardler > wrote: > >> +1 to not another list, use subject tag "[FAQ]" >> >> __

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

I consider the country as recorded in ICLA. As sensitive. The information s not gathered for that purpose. In some parts of the world this is law. Besides its not accurate. Many people don't live in their country of birth or citizenship and thus country of residence is not representative of anyt

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

Seems to me like we have plenty of people who feel this is a good idea, but not one we feel is appropriate. Get Outlook for Android From: Andrew Musselman Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:33:40 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: Divers

Re: [DISCUSS] committee resources

On the topic of another list, why wouldn't "off-topic" be comdev? I think most, if not all, of us are in there. If we take the responsibility of ensuring diversity and welcoming in that list then we are starting to spread by example. Get Outlook for Android _

Re: FAQ and paywall articles

Pay wall... No. It's of no use if people can't get to it. Get Outlook for Android From: Patricia Shanahan Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 5:15:46 PM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: FAQ and paywall articles I am sure all of us have heard of s

Re: D&I 2020 budget Request

Is the information on planners@ I'd like to learn more. Get Outlook for Android From: Kevin A. McGrail Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:55:22 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: D&I 2020 budget Request For the Africa event, Rich is appr

Re: D&I 2020 budget Request

22:05 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: D&I 2020 budget Request No, it is still in the research stage so only basic info has been discussed on planners. On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:45 Ross Gardler wrote: > Is the information on planners@ I'd like to learn more. > > Get Outlook for

Re: Feedback from Sarah Kiniry about the Google Translate Trick was Fwd: Discussion of written English style

Machine translation does not try to translate meaning, it translates commonly seen groupings of words in documents that have been human translated. The end result is translation between languages can work quite well but it very quickly breaks down when translating across multiple languages. Just

Re: good intent

I find this article to be potentially damaging but also potentially valuable. The "potentially damaging" part is likely because of where I work and what "assume good intent" means to me as a result. For me it doesn't mean "telling people to “assume good intent” is a sign that if they come to you

Re: good intent

y treating people with respect." --- Sent from my phone, you know what that means - sorry From: Niall Pemberton Sent: Monday, September 16, 2:23 PM Subject: Re: good intent To: diversity@apache.org On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 18:18, Ross Gardler wrote: > I find this article to be potentially

Re: Statement from the OSI

Thanks for sharing Myrle. When will the ASF make a similar statement? Ross From: Myrle Krantz Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 1:19 PM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Statement from the OSI https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopen

Microsoft D&I report

[DISCLAIMER in an MS employee, I share because I believe being aware of progress, challenges and learnings in companies like MS can help us here] Microsoft has published their D&I report. https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2019/11/12/the-microsoft-diversity-and-inclusion-report-reveals-momentum-an