[lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Yves Dorfsman
Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those guys, or even one including commercial products? Thanks. -- Yves. http://www.SollerS.ca/ xmpp:y...@zioup.com __

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Derek J. Balling
On May 22, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those > guys, or even one including commercial products? I can't point to a rational comparison, but I can offer the following random data-points: - Monday morning this wee

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 22, 2010, at 11:45 , Yves Dorfsman wrote: Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those guys, or even one including commercial products? Part of the problem is that the most significant differences are difficult to quantify: for (probably the biggest) e

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Adam Moskowitz
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 09:45:20AM -0600, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those > guys, or even one including commercial products? There was a panel at LISA a few years ago that featured the creators of bcfg2, cfengine, LCFG, and puppet.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sat, 22 May 2010, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those > guys, or even one including commercial products? Here is my impressions of the three. I expect I am wrong about some of the details and invite people to correct me. cfengine

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Joe McDonagh
On 05/22/2010 11:45 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those > guys, or even one including commercial products? > > > Thanks. > This is like asking someone for a rational comparison between Christianity, Islam, and Scientology. But

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Dana Quinn
This discussion makes me wonder - *why* isn't there a really good commercial product? (and I do believe there isn't a good commercial product). The addressable market seems big... like if a company got it right (solving both small and big company needs) they could make a lot of money. Have there

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On May 22, 2010, at 15:45 , Dana Quinn wrote: This discussion makes me wonder - *why* isn't there a really good commercial product? (and I do believe there isn't a good commercial I'm under the strong impression that commercial offerings are either (a) productized internal tools (b) add-ons

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
Yves Dorfsman wrote: > Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those > guys, or even one including commercial products? Here is the configuration management panel from Open Source Bridge 2009. - Luke Kanies from Reductive Labs for Puppet - Brendan Strejcek of Cfengine

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread rackow
Dana Quinn made the following keystrokes: >This discussion makes me wonder - *why* isn't there a really good >commercial product? (and I do believe there isn't a good commercial >product). The addressable market seems big... like if a company got >it right (solving both small and big company

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread seph
Joe McDonagh writes: > what's most important to me in a > programming language of any type is expressibility or usability for the > task at hand. > > This is why I chose puppet. Puppet's DSL is made of awesome. I've looked > at chef but it just doesn't jive with me, but the reason it doesn't is >

Re: [lopsa-discuss] cfengine vs. puppet vs. chef

2010-05-22 Thread John Stoffel
Yves> Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison Yves> between those guys, or even one including commercial products? And include what infrastructure each requires? I'm perenially about the deploy Cfengine at work, but I keep thinking I should look at Puppet, BCFG and others.