This discussion makes me wonder - *why* isn't there a really good commercial product? (and I do believe there isn't a good commercial product). The addressable market seems big... like if a company got it right (solving both small and big company needs) they could make a lot of money.
Have there been good products that didn't have business success? On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Joe McDonagh <joseph.e.mcdon...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 05/22/2010 11:45 AM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: >> >> Has anybody done, or can point me to a *rational* comparison between those >> guys, or even one including commercial products? >> >> >> Thanks. >> > This is like asking someone for a rational comparison between > Christianity, Islam, and Scientology. But I'll bite. ;-) > > I saw a guy once present graphs I believe in the puppet channel on > freenode that showed how much faster cfengine is than puppet with an > equivalent number of resources. And I believed him- the fact that > cfengine is not in an interpreted language alone makes it a lot faster. > That might be interesting to some people (depending on your environment > and to an extent, personality), but what's most important to me in a > programming language of any type is expressibility or usability for the > task at hand. > > This is why I chose puppet. Puppet's DSL is made of awesome. I've looked > at chef but it just doesn't jive with me, but the reason it doesn't is > the reason it's gaining momentum afaict: the ruby-ness of it. All ruby > devs seem to love it. I can see why this would be a strength, but at > this point even if Chef gains a feature set that is compelling to me, it > would be a major PITA to switch production over to it. > > Oh, and most people don't really even talk about commercial products. I > have talked to guys who've used HP's stuff and they only have bad things > to say. Luke Kanies worked at a company that made a big GUI for cfg mgmt > IIRC, which I think is what partly inspired him to create puppet. I > don't know if that speaks to Luke's skills and technical ability, or to > the suckiness of the systems before. > > -- > Joe McDonagh > AIM: YoosingYoonickz > IRC: joe-mac on freenode > L'ennui est contre-révolutionnaire > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lopsa.org > http://lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > -- Dana Quinn da...@pobox.com _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lopsa.org http://lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
