Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> I currently have 32 Windows XP machines virtualized on a CentOS machine > under Xen. They're used for testing websites under IE (and are > accessed > via RDP). Unfortunately, I have been having horrible performance > issues > with Windows XP under Xen. I've emailed the centos-virt list to see

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > I find that Xen is great for virtualization of linux inside of linux ... And > for nothing else. In fact, whenever I have a non-linux guest inside of Xen, > I find Xen is unstable. I have a server with windows & linux guests inside > of xen on RHEL5 host ... and abou

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Matt Simmons
The single biggest weakness that I've seen for VirtualBox is its inability to resize disk images after creation. This leads to creating additional virtual disks to present to the guest. If you're hoping to resize the Windows filesystem to utilize this space, make sure to use "dynamic disks": http:

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Joshua Penix
On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Ryan Pugatch wrote: > Unfortunately, I have been having horrible performance issues with Windows XP > under Xen. If you haven't already, give the GPLPV ("ParaVirt") drivers for XP a quick try. They're supposed to help network and disk performance significantly: ht

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Joshua Penix wrote: > > If you haven't already, give the GPLPV ("ParaVirt") drivers for XP a quick > try. They're supposed to help network and disk performance significantly: > > http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenWindowsGplPv > >> What I'm hoping to find out from people on this list is othe

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
This is actually the likely route for me. I was just hoping to stick with our existing Xen infrastructure. Thanks, Ryan Dustin Puryear wrote: > Why not use VMware ESXi? It works great with Windows or Linux VMs. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active D

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Dustin Puryear
Why not use VMware ESXi? It works great with Windows or Linux VMs. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Dan Parsons
If your hardware doesn't support ESXi, I suggest trying "VMware Server", also free. It doesn't run on the "bare metal", but it does run very well and works with almost any Linux distribution: http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ I've successfully used it to virtualize WinXP systems in the past,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IEtesting

2010-01-21 Thread Dustin Puryear
Assuming you have recent and non-homebrew Intel hardware, you can probably run ESXi, although VMware Server will work. (Although I heavily suggest using ESXi over VMware Server where possible.) ESXi is a snap, quite fast, and I've never had an issue running XP or any Windows boxen under it.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IEtesting

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Yeah, I think my plan will be to throw ESXi on a nice shiny new PowerEdge R710 :) Dustin Puryear wrote: > Assuming you have recent and non-homebrew Intel hardware, you can > probably run ESXi, although VMware Server will work. (Although I heavily > suggest using ESXi over VMware Server where p

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> The single biggest weakness that I've seen for VirtualBox is its > inability to resize disk images after creation. This leads to creating > additional virtual disks to present to the guest. > > If you're hoping to resize the Windows filesystem to utilize this > space, make sure to use "dynamic d

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> that setup. Definitely looking for a server rather than workstation > solution so perhaps VMWare Server may be the way to go. VMWare Server is a terrible product. I wouldn't recommend it for any purpose. Perhaps you should look at ESXi? Does the host need to be Linux, or perhaps bare metal w

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IEtesting

2010-01-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
There is just one problem with ESXi. How do you make your disks redundant? If you have something like a RAID controller card, you can configure the disk redundancy in BIOS. But then if a disk goes bad and you need to reassign the global hotspare ... there is no built-in or 3rd party utility you

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IEtesting

2010-01-21 Thread Jonathan Nicol
Completely agree, with the addition that we found NFS to perform better than iSCSI (YMMV). In fact if you have SAN/NAS and VirtualCenter, you don't even need local disks in the ESXi servers, you can PXEboot or use a USB key! Jonathan On Jan 21, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IEtesting

2010-01-21 Thread Matt Simmons
I'd probably go USB boot in that case. PXE is just another subsystem to break and fail other things. Incidentally, if you've got a Dell system, you can install the OpenManage VIB in ESXi to gain access to the underlying RAID system - http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=e

Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote IE testing

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Pugatch
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > VMWare Server is a terrible product. I wouldn't recommend it for any > purpose. > > Perhaps you should look at ESXi? Does the host need to be Linux, or perhaps > bare metal would be ok? > Yeah, I have been leaning toward ESXi. No problem with that since I can loa