Yeah, I think my plan will be to throw ESXi on a nice shiny new 
PowerEdge R710 :)


Dustin Puryear wrote:
> Assuming you have recent and non-homebrew Intel hardware, you can 
> probably run ESXi, although VMware Server will work. (Although I heavily 
> suggest using ESXi over VMware Server where possible.)
> 
>  
> 
> ESXi is a snap, quite fast, and I’ve never had an issue running XP or 
> any Windows boxen under it.
> 
>  
> 
> It’s also free as in beer.
> 
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> *From:* discuss-boun...@lopsa.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lopsa.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Dan Parsons
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:17 PM
> *To:* r...@linux.com
> *Cc:* discuss@lopsa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [lopsa-discuss] virtualizing XP under Linux and remote 
> IEtesting
> 
>  
> 
> If your hardware doesn't support ESXi, I suggest trying "VMware Server", 
> also free. It doesn't run on the "bare metal", but it does run very well 
> and works with almost any Linux distribution:
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
> 
>  
> 
> I've successfully used it to virtualize WinXP systems in the past, 
> specifically for Mac web developers to test on, actually. It has a 
> pretty nifty web management interface.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Ryan Pugatch <r...@linux.com 
> <mailto:r...@linux.com>> wrote:
> 
> Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>  >
>  > I find that Xen is great for virtualization of linux inside of linux 
> ... And
>  > for nothing else.  In fact, whenever I have a non-linux guest inside 
> of Xen,
>  > I find Xen is unstable.  I have a server with windows & linux guests 
> inside
>  > of xen on RHEL5 host ... and about once per month, xen will lose its 
> mind,
>  > and the memory of one machine becomes the memory of another. 
>  Solution is to
>  > reboot all the guests and host.  And yes, performance is terrible, except
>  > for linux in linux.
>  >
>  > For either linux or mac hosts ... Sun Virtualbox is a pretty good choice.
>  > It has some bugs here and there ... but it does in fact have "guest
>  > extensions" or whatever they call it ... So the guest stability and
>  > performance is very good.
>  >
>  > If you only use your virtual machine casually, you can't beat the 
> price of
>  > virtualbox.  But if you use it all day every day, such as I do ... I run
>  > windows inside of mac every day, and I also run windows inside of ubuntu
>  > every day ... Then I find virtualbox is just simply too buggy and kloogy.
>  >
>  > On the mac, either parallels or vmware fusion is the professional way 
> to go.
>  > In fusion, you must remember to install VMWare Tools, and in 
> parallels, you
>  > must remember to install Parallels Extensions.  If you do this, 
> performance
>  > is near 100%.  I personally prefer fusion for performance and reliability
>  > reasons, but parallels is slightly more featureful.  Both are good 
> choices,
>  > with neither having a large edge over the other in any way.
>  >
>  > On linux, VMWare Workstation is the professional way to go.  Beware 
> versions
>  > though.  Check the vmware compatibility guide.  I find VMWare 
> Workstation is
>  > typically only compatible with hosts a rev behind ... For example ...
>  > Workstation  works fine on ubuntu 904, but not 910.  But by the time 1004
>  > comes out, I think 910 will be supported.
>  >
> 
> I agree that Linux inside Linux with Xen is good.  I definitely need a
> solution to virtualize Windows on a server rather than having the devs
> virtualize on their local machines.  I regularly use Virtualbox locally
> and like it and have thought about setting up a server with a group of
> headless VMs under it, but I am unsure of how Virtualbox performs in
> that setup.  Definitely looking for a server rather than workstation
> solution so perhaps VMWare Server may be the way to go.
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> Ryan
> 
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