Re: [lopsa-discuss] box.net

2012-01-05 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:07, Josh Smift wrote: > That doesn't sound like the opposite to me: If you're using an outside > service to send mass mail, precisely so that it doesn't tarnish your > reputation, isn't that in some sense fraudulent? > In the general case, yes. In the specific case whe

Re: [lopsa-discuss] looking for graphing software to turn a text-based list into a graph of a circle with sectors and sub-sectors(?)

2012-01-05 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:22, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > Hi. I'm looking for a way to automatically generate a graph from a > nested list. > Off the top of my head, this is the kind of thing ploticus does fairly well. -- brandon s allbery allber...@gmail.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] box.net

2012-01-05 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:47, Dave Close wrote: > If the content of a mass mailing would tarnish your reputation But the root of the problem is, there are too many people and automated systems in which *any* kind of mass mailing, regardless of content, gets you flagged as having a bad reputatio

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Should a sysadmin be a dog or a cat?

2012-01-16 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 13:41, Tom Limoncelli wrote: > I think that sysadmins are the dog (we are fed in return for the > service we provide) but all too often we act like the cat (we believe > we are fed because we're more important than anyone else) > Huh? When it's well known that we're "onl

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Weekly oncall rotations: Which day do you start on?

2012-03-03 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:11, Danielle wrote: > he would schedule the maintenance with the > customer for what was then yet his on-call week but keep it quiet from > the rest of the department until someone had accepted the swap. > Over and above the oncall issue, that sounds problematic. I'd e

Re: [lopsa-discuss] List of schools offering degrees in system administration - did I miss any?

2012-05-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Jan Schaumann wrote: > This list is entitled "Courses related to IT Administration", but seems > to list degree programs (not courses). Is that correct? > "Course" can mean a degree program (this is the convention at MIT, for example). -- brandon s allbery

Re: [lopsa-discuss] udev rule based on file system UUID?

2012-06-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Chris Mosetick wrote: > I would like to add functionality so that when a disk is un-plugged, it > automatically gets un-mounted. Again, I know this is possible, but so far > in experiments, I have not had luck in getting rules to listen to > ACTION=="remove" Any f

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Update : Developers you can Get a Dell XPS 13 ultrabook with Ubuntu Linux ..

2012-07-08 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Harvey Rothenberg wrote: > > It took M$ until late in Vista's development to finally provide what they > state as a better scripting environment than any Linux/Unix Shell > environment. I still believe that POSIX Shell environments are stronger > than M$'s PowerSh

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Update : Developers you can Get a Dell XPS 13 ultrabook with Ubuntu Linux ..

2012-07-09 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Robert Novak wrote: > >> Which "cheapest version of Windows 7" are you referring to? I know 32 >> bit Home has a minimum of 1GB, whereas 64 bit Home has a minimum of >> 2GB, but I don't know of any versions

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Marketing e-mail services

2012-07-15 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Corey Quinn wrote: > Ah, but did they *ask* to receive this mail / be added to your mailing > list? "Hey, this applies to Steve, I'll put Steve on the mailing list!" > flat out doesn't fly, though it seems many folks do it. > The point is more the stunning number

Re: [lopsa-discuss] online forum?

2012-09-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Gary Pitman wrote: > Has there been any discussion on possibly throwing up a online forum sort > of like linuxquestions.org but more specialised to the sysadmin world and > OS agnostic? > > It might be a nice way to promote the organisation. > The problem there i

Re: [lopsa-discuss] online forum?

2012-09-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Peter Grace wrote: > Just so you are all aware, we are VERY interested in finding ways of > growing ServerFault's community and participation. As some of you may > know, ServerFault has a strong, awesome community, but we're bummed that it > doesn't quite have t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] online forum?

2012-09-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Greg R wrote: > ** > This is why I think LOPSA-people are a great fit for ServerFault. We do > this kind of thing for a living, says so right in the title. And by doing > it for a living, we do it in our workplaces, which makes it topical. And by > filtering the s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Fwd: [TUHS] unix horror stories

2012-10-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Jan Schaumann wrote: > > he did 'rm -rf .*'. Sad to say he didn't realize that '.*' could and > > would expand into '..', and it would continue to do so recursively. > > Did early versions of (any) Unix really behave this way? I don't see > how: > Yes, they did

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Fwd: [TUHS] unix horror stories

2012-10-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > I am not aware of how the early implementations worked, but if this > were the case, wouldn't "rm -r somedir/" detect somedir/.. and then > "rm -r" specifically detects that case. Of course, that may have only been added in the first b

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Fwd: [TUHS] unix horror stories

2012-10-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Jan Schaumann wrote: > Instead, the earliest sources I can find quickly all behave as one would > expect and use fts(3) to traverse the hierarchy. > fts(3) is, in terms of Unix, a relatively late development. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Fwd: [TUHS] unix horror stories

2012-10-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > OK, I'm not going to pretend I understand at the "code" level how it > happened. > Easy enough: rm -r may not follow .., but the initial glob did, so you got rm -r applied to every directory in "..". -- brandon s allbery kf8nh

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Android Tablet recommendation?

2013-02-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > I am looking to upgrade the phone, as I've found that despite my best > efforts, the unit simply refuses to stay awake all the time and will drop > the wifi/3g connection and go to sleep at times. While pages get through, > as they opera

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Android Tablet recommendation?

2013-02-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > The RIse is about the only 4.0 unit with a physical keyboard that I could > find that is carried by prepaid plans (Virgin Mobile, in this case). I > would mostly want to use the keyboard on it with: > >1. ConnectBot >2. Browser

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Android phones w. keyboards (Was: Re: Android Tablet recommendation?)

2013-02-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM, wrote: > => Some applications don't play well with the keyboard (most common failure > => mode is that the Fn key doesn't work so you can't enter numbers or > => symbols); this is thankfully uncommon. Also, it really wants to > operate in > > [SNIP!] > >

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Let's Talk About Windows Server 2012

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Joseph Kern wrote: > I also find the baby-blue and bright red color scheme quite assaulting on > the eyes. > Apparently someone at Microsoft misses the ancient Windows Hot Dog Stand theme :) -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] OTY: Antivirus best practices: for Mac? for Unix?

2013-06-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Harvey Rothenberg wrote: > From TechTarget's WhatIs (dot) com defines a worm as a self-replicating > code that does not alter files but resides in active memory and duplicates > itself. It is common for worms to be noticed ONLY when their uncontrolled > replication

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Knowledge lost in time....

2013-06-23 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: > getty OTOH, handles the user authentication and then exec's (which > replaces the process memory that its using, with) the login shell. And, > luckily there was still enough available for that to work. Also its > necessary to use

Re: [lopsa-discuss] LOPSA 501(c) status?

2013-06-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Phil Pennock < lopsa-discuss+p...@spodhuis.org> wrote: > So my recollection of the SAGE-era discussions is that one of the issues > that led to frustration and the creation of LOPSA was that SAGE, being > part of USENIX, was covered as a 501(c)3 and so could not at

Re: [lopsa-discuss] LOPSA 501(c) status?

2013-06-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Phil Pennock < > lopsa-discuss+p...@spodhuis.org> wrote: > > If we're very *very* lucky, the legislation will be such that there will > > be no consensus agreement among LOPSA members. > > *NO* agreement? So th

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Small, easy billing system for consultancy

2013-06-30 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone knows of a simple, easy to use billing system that > I could use for my small client base. I don't have the time or inclination > to learn something like MS Money or Quickbooks or the like; I > Have you looked a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Managing Mac OS X

2013-08-15 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Phil Pennock < lopsa-discuss+p...@spodhuis.org> wrote: > On 2013-08-15 at 21:53 +, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote: > > To all those people who responded, saying use casper, etc - What kinds > > of things do you do to OSX with these tools? > > I've not used Ca

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Can anyone recommend a very trustworthy PC person in Philadelphia?

2013-08-17 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ed wrote: > Betsy - sounds like a typical user - focus on the important thing - get > that book out of WordPerfect! it is long past time to migrate to a > currently available/supported piece of software Ahahah. Spoken like someone who's never tried to migrate a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Testing...

2013-09-06 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Moose Finklestein wrote: > Great, experimenting. > Next up, someone hooks up the list to a potato to see if it can generate > energy. > Periodic bursts of lots of heat, occasionally a little light; maybe we need a steam generator for that. -- brandon s allbery k

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Just wondering what folks think of Schneier latest

2013-09-06 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM, William J. Robbins wrote: > I'd venture to say that academics being paid by the DoD are still part of > the military complex. Oppenheimer was an academic for instance. > They can be. It's not automatically true that they have the same goals, though. -- brandon

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Just wondering what folks think of Schneier latest

2013-09-06 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:58 AM, William J. Robbins wrote: > Not that I disagree with the intent of the article, nor need to reform. > However "This is not the internet the world needs, or t*he internet its > creators envisioned*." is an odd statement. > > I do feel obliged to point out the Intern

Re: [lopsa-discuss] I hate to throw things away, I suppose

2013-09-27 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Shrdlu wrote: > As an aside, why is it that Microsoft writes (to be kind) less than > wonderful operating systems, and yet their books on them are some of > the best you can buy. Code Complete is a work of art. > Because MSR is largely separate from the commerci

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Ok, I am stumped - Perl script running under cron problem

2013-10-03 Thread Brandon Allbery
> > On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Ski Kacoroski wrote: > >`rm /var/spool/discoveryed/old/*`; > >`mv /var/spool/discoveryed/*roster*.csv > /var/spool/discoveryed/roster.prev`; > >`mv /var/spool/discoveryed/*.csv /var/spool/discoveryed/old`; > a Don't use `` that way. Use system. Re

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Linux file system checks

2013-10-03 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Phil Pennock < lopsa-discuss+p...@spodhuis.org> wrote: > BSDs: > man 8 fsdb > man 5 fs > man 8 clri # historic > > My recollection is that there were another couple of commands to go with > clri(8) but they were already obsoleted in practice by fsck(8) befor

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Face-to-face exchange of contact information?

2013-10-07 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Tom Perrine wrote: > There used to be very good PIMs, those seem to have gone away or > gotten much more expensive? > I think they all decided the money was in commercial customer management systems and evolved their way out of the personal market. -- brandon s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Face-to-face exchange of contact information?

2013-10-08 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Josh Smift wrote: > I feel like QR codes are *everywhere* these days. Signs in the supermarket > window, scan here to download today's coupons. Signs at bus stops, scan > here to see where your bus is. I don't use it much myself, but it doesn't > look to me like s

Re: [lopsa-discuss] LinkedIn mail hijacking

2013-10-25 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, M^2 wrote: > The blog links to a LinkedIn engineering blog with enough technical data > that I don't see any contradictions between the two sides on what can be > done and how. > And, between past demonstrations of lack of clue about security around LinkedIn and

Re: [lopsa-discuss] navy.mil access problems

2013-10-31 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Joseph Kern wrote: > In my experience, if you fix a problem like this with a one-off waiver to > operate there will be problems down the road as soon as there is a change > of command (at the navy.mil level), they will request all STIG *(Security > Implementation T

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Professionalization BoF at LISA'13

2013-11-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM, wrote: > There was a comment that we need to do this before someone else does it > for/to us. Who is this someone else? Why would they do this? Are > ther goals/motifs in line with LOPSA or where do they differ? How > far along in this path may they be? > S

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Professionalization BoF at LISA'13

2013-11-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > On 2013-11-10 14:40, Brandon Allbery wrote: >> >> So, do you recall a few months back about Snowden? Sometimes I think the >> only >> reason that didn't turn into a rather witch-hunt-y form of >> "

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Professionalization BoF at LISA'13

2013-11-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Willard Dennis wrote: > Well, the IEEE Computer Society publishes the "SWEBOK" (Software > Engineering Body of Knowledge) and I'm pretty sure that field moves at > least as fast as ours does... I believe medical science is also a > fast-moving field (i.e the functi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Professionalization BoF at LISA'13

2013-11-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Josh Smift wrote: > I think this is a good way to think about this. In particular, rather than > saying "we think that being 'a profession' will solve some of our > problems; what do other professions do? let's do that", we should say "we > want to solve these pr

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Now this is interesting - Sears getting into the data center business

2013-11-15 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > I'm also not sure that they know how much data centers cost to get up and > running, really. Unless they have contracts already in the pipeline, it's > not going to be pretty for them, IMO. > It is worth remembering (a) Sears' original/

Re: [lopsa-discuss] What do you want in asset tracking? - WAS Re: Recommendations for basic asset tracking

2014-02-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Alan Robertson wrote: > Things like location, warranty, in-service date, purchase date I don't > think can be discovered from the hardware... :-D For some vendors you can get that knowing the vendor and serial number --- although if you can do that without auth

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Password management

2014-04-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Stuart Krivis wrote: > I used Password Safe for a long time and then switched to Keepass a few > years ago. We use it at work too. (Both of these run just fine on Linux, > either through ports or as Windows binaries with Wine or Mono.) > The problem I keep running

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Password management

2014-04-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Branson Matheson wrote: > It's been the subject of concern as the algorithm is not well published so > I will be watching this thread carefully. My biggest concern will be > transferring all the existing info. What, 1Password? The algorithm is well enough documen

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Your First Year As A Sysadmin

2014-04-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > Question from my partner: > > Hi! My partner and I were going to go to Linuxfest Northwest, where there > was a presentation on "Your First Year As A Sysadmin" on the schedule, and > I planned to ask a question; however, due to finances,

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Your First Year As A Sysadmin

2014-04-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Elijah Wright wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Brandon Allbery > wrote: > > (I question Tom Limoncelli's claim about 1991 still being expensive, as > that > > was around when Linux first sprang onto the scene and even before

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-09 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > I'm assuming that all those activities will be opt-in, in which case, what > drawback could there be to be for all-LOPSA(1)? What advantage is gained > from creating this "virtual" entity? Most people find it easier to fit into a smaller, m

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-09 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > >> I'm assuming that all those activities will be opt-in, in which case, >> what drawback could there be to be for all-LOPSA(1)? What advantage is >&

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Will Dennis wrote: > Again, I'd do something like this under the general name of LOPSA, and > forget the "virtual chapter" stuff. I'm waiting for you to rewire humanity so that it can work with large groups as well or better than small groups. -- brandon s all

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-10 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Will Dennis wrote: > Huhwat? Maybe I'm just slow on this sleepy Saturday, but plz explain what > you mean... > I've already said it at least once in this thread, obviously to no point whatsoever. People work better with, and relate better to, small groups. Somet

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > I'm not sure that the gasping-its-dying-breath newspaper industry is the > best "role-model" for a viable business-model. ...ignoring the not-anywhere-near-dying other examples that adopted and adapted it from when newspapers were thriving

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:13 PM, craig constantine wrote: > I’ve long thought LOPSA has a serious communications problem: It lacks a > high fidelity leadership voice that communicates clearly. I must admit that I have used LOPSA as an example when advising other groups about the importance of co

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Evan Pettrey wrote: > The conversation we've been having here is a great example of what I mean: > We've gotten so caught up on whether or not this thing should be called a > "chapter" or if a chapter is explicitly something else, that we've killed a > lot of the

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Craig Cook wrote: > i.e. I would suggest the same for LOPSA. Make the ability to post > questions to the LOPSA mailing lists a members-only benefit. Make quick > access to the LOPSA talent pool a scarce resource. This may of course be harder to do than to prop

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Looking for an organizer for the first virtual LOPSA Chapter

2014-05-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Evan Pettrey wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Evan Pettrey wrote: >> >>> The conversation we've been having here is a great example of what I >>> mean

Re: [lopsa-discuss] re-rendering session capture files

2014-05-30 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM, craig constantine wrote: > I may resort to experimenting with something like having Perl read() and > then print() each logical line to see if I can get the inbuilt print() to > consume the things like backspaces at least. > > Anyone have any other thoughts? (…two

Re: [lopsa-discuss] re-rendering session capture files

2014-06-03 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Gregory Boyce wrote: > > I may resort to experimenting with something like having Perl read() and > then print() each logical line to see if I can get the inbuilt print() to > consume the things like backspaces at least. > > > > Anyone have any other thoughts? (…tw

Re: [lopsa-discuss] SPAM: Oh Snap! Free IT Monitoring Software And A T-shirt?

2014-06-26 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Corey Quinn wrote: > Jun 26, 2014, at 6:12 AM, Will Dennis wrote: > > It meets my definition of "unsolicited commercial email"... > > Mine as well. Spam is about consent, not content. > > I would be far happier if LOPSA made this opt-in; I'd even opt in myself! >

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why don't people join Lopsa?

2014-07-31 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > I think we value community just fine. The problem is we (as an > organization) give away the community for free so *we* (the org) have > devalued the community. We've set its value at "zero". That is not clear to me... nor was it to Hippoc

Re: [lopsa-discuss] For-Profit Subsidiaries?

2014-08-01 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > I think - as a member - a question that is obvious here comes to mind: > > *- How much does forming this sub-corporation cost?* > *- How much does all the lawyering to figure out the formation/legalities > cost?* > *- How much overhead is i

Re: [lopsa-discuss] For-Profit Subsidiaries?

2014-08-01 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Derek Balling wrote: > Although those particular questions should require any significant work at > all. I think even those questions are only that trivial if you have a team with a lot of experience spinning off such subsidiaries --- and anyone having a team on

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why don't people join Lopsa?

2014-08-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Rhys Rhaven wrote: > But the point is that hardware and largely operations can and are being > automated, and its making a lot of services traditionally rendered by > SysAdmins commodities. If you're not a developer, if you aren't moving to > work on APIs, distrib

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why don't people join Lopsa?

2014-08-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > There is a subset of people who think "The Cloud is EVERYTHING". These are > mostly young upstarts or whipper-snappersa[1]. > There is a subset of people who realize "The Cloud is useful, but there's > a time and a place where you should be

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Why don't people join Lopsa?

2014-08-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Rhys Rhaven wrote: > [ ✓ ] Try to reduce what I said into Cloud vs Not Cloud. Way to go Mr. > Allbery, you bought my lunch. > Bzzzt. That was Derek who summoned the cloud vs. not cloud. And if you thought what I said was about cloud vs. not cloud, then again *you

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Ye ha! Outcomes of face-to-face

2014-08-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Michael Tiernan wrote: > 'Develop and publish a document that defines what LOPSA considers > "System Administration" to be' > bikeshed war starting in 5... 4... 3 -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmai

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Ye ha! Outcomes of face-to-face

2014-08-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:15 PM, leam hall wrote: > For the record, I'm not a DevOps fan based on the implementations I've > seen. A better union of Dev, Ops, and Eng is great, but so far it > seems more "Devs doing stupid crap and calling it system work". > As I noticed in the Recent Unpleasant

Re: [lopsa-discuss] AD equivalent for Linux

2014-10-29 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > Samba for Unix auth seems a bit odd. I used it at one point with winbind > to map AD to the local unix system on a fileserver, and winbind did weird > things like change IDs on occasion (though I don't think we had the > Unix/POSIX att

Re: [lopsa-discuss] AD equivalent for Linux

2014-11-01 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Morgan Blackthorne wrote: > I may have spoken too soon. Everything I'm finding shows that Azure Active > Directory is more for web apps and native Azure ACLs than it is a true AD > service; ie, no LDAP access, etc. It's more equivalent to IAM. > > Anything else li

Re: [lopsa-discuss] AD equivalent for Linux

2014-11-01 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Mark McCullough wrote: > I would be very cautious about putting your authentication framework for > your internal systems in a remote (i.e. cloud) service. That methodology > seems to be asking for trouble: security, stability, performance, you name > it. > > Be

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Disposable email addresses

2014-11-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Brian Mathis < brian.mathis+lo...@betteradmin.com> wrote: > The modern way to do this is by using "plus addressing" Nice theory, but in practice a lot of places *will not accept* such addresses. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nom

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Cloning a Mac drive

2014-11-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Adam Levin wrote: > Yeah, either SuperDuper or CarbonCopyCloner. Those are the two Mac drive > duplicators I see most often mentioned. > Be warned, I am hearing reports that CCC is broken on 10.10. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Cloning a Mac drive

2014-11-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Smith, David wrote: > We’ve all heard that Windows machines need a wipe/reinstall every couple > years. (I don’t know if that’s actually true, or just anecdotal. I rarely > have the same machine more than a year or two, so it’s never come up in my > personal exp

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Cloning a Mac drive

2014-11-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Derek Balling wrote: > I've "Migration Assistant'ed" myself from laptop to laptop for the last > seven or eight years, without issue. One of the points of Migration Assistant is omitting the cruft: prefs that can't be mapped to applications, random system files

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Cloning a Mac drive

2014-12-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:58 PM, David wrote: > As was mentioned already, SuperDuper will also work, but that won't > "defrag" the drive and will copy over any broken files or permissions. If > you go with SuperDuper, I'd recommend running a disk verify and repair > anything that it finds before

Re: [lopsa-discuss] sysadmin / infosec poll

2014-12-18 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Harvey Rothenberg wrote: > > An example of this would be Steve Jobs's choice to build his MAC Os upon a > more securely built, than other OS's that he had a choice of at the time, > was the right direction to take, and this has been proven over time. I > understan

Re: [lopsa-discuss] sysadmin / infosec poll

2014-12-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Michael Tiernan wrote: > I find it a point of pride that I can stand in front of people and say > "I don't know enough to do it safely, so I'm turning to [parties] to get > it done right." > This can also be phrased positively: "part of my job is to know enough a

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Help with gmail technical problem

2015-01-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Crocker, Deborah wrote: > I’ve got a problem with getting another persons gmail. I am > firstname.lastn...@gmail.com and I occasionally get email to > firstnamelastn...@gmail.com but this is different person. I think the real problem must be something different;

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Help with gmail technical problem

2015-01-28 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Crocker, Deborah wrote: > So, why did they allow both accounts to be created? These are duplicate > accounts. Or maybe they didn’t and this other person just thinks that is > their account? They sure have used it in some sensitive places. That is why I said "so

Re: [lopsa-discuss] NIce Fraud alert system - American Express

2015-02-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Peter Loron wrote: > Do note that EMV (aka Chip + PIN) Note that many are chip-and-signature, not chip-and-PIN. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allber...@gmail.com ballb...@sinenom

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Membership vs. SponsorshipWho pays your dues (was Re: Membership vs. Sponsorship)

2015-02-09 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > At this point I don't have any of that original hope anymore. As far as I > can tell, nothing happened. https://lopsa.org/why_join > > looks the same to me as it did back in 2004. Has anything substantively > changed? The main benefit of me

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-03-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Martin James Gehrke wrote: > The benefit I see is an ED is a constant stream of progress. Relying on > volunteers mean you are at the mercy of their availability. An ED can neither do it all, nor command volunteers to do it on their personal time. You are still

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-03-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Evan Pettrey wrote: > I think perhaps we're being a bit pedantic on the title vs. the role. If > an ED isn't capable of being both a manager and doer then go out and hire > somebody a different title. I think you're missing the point. There are a lot of things t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Does LOPSA have a project manager?

2015-03-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Evan Pettrey wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Brandon Allbery > wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Evan Pettrey >> wrote: >> >>> I think perhaps we're being a bit pedantic on the title vs. the role

Re: [lopsa-discuss] NTP appliances

2015-04-02 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Mark Baker wrote: > Buy 3 raspberry Pis. I hate to see money thrown out the door for these > "appliances". Piggy back on the DNS servers all you need to run is the > daemon. > Wouldn't a stratum 1 NTP appliance be something like a GPS receiver that outputs a clo

Re: [lopsa-discuss] consumer home networking gear (incl wireless ap) that allows you to troubleshoot problems?

2015-04-25 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Dana Quinn wrote: > So at minimum you can read this as a request for a good, affordable > consumer grade wireless ap that has better than consumer management > capabilities, including perhaps ability to allow command line shell access > to view logs, perhaps forw

Re: [lopsa-discuss] consumer home networking gear (incl wireless ap) that allows you to troubleshoot problems?

2015-04-27 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM, David Lang wrote: > If you are running *wrt on them, then you have the full power of the linux > kernel, so NAT tables filling up is a config option away. Nice inappropriate conflation. "low end commodity AP" --- think bottom or even middle of the line Netgear o

Re: [lopsa-discuss] consumer home networking gear (incl wireless ap) that allows you to troubleshoot problems?

2015-04-27 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:20 PM, David Lang wrote: > I thought the context was when using a *wrt build on one of these routers. The original question didn't mention firmware, I mentioned it to point out that you really need a *wrt for anything sane, the standard firmware is usually too crap.

Re: [lopsa-discuss] VoIP Monitoring

2015-05-08 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, wrote: > It will basically look for goodput (time to first byte time to last byte > after subtracting ‎overhead). This requires a bit of setup ( a solarwinds > setup and a User Experience Monitor on a mirror port). This can monitor > much more than just VOIP traffi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Tethering vs. MiFi vs. ????

2015-05-18 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Kent C. Brodie wrote: > tmobile with an unlocked phone.tether to your hearts content. > priced right. ...where there's coverage. (I just picked up a cheap AT&T prepaid because that's the only carrier with coverage in the city where my employer holds its annu

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Tethering vs. MiFi vs. ????

2015-05-21 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian Mathis < brian.mathis+lo...@betteradmin.com> wrote: > Verizon is required by law to allow tethering without any additional > service fees Do I want to know why this doesn't apply to the other carriers? (Like, did Verizon claim in promotional material that t

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Feedback - Elections Open: Candidate Questions and Answers

2015-06-23 Thread Brandon Allbery
There's also that I only received the message about 15 minutes ago; presumably it's still in the queue for at least some others, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Derek J. Balling wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Check your spam folder, that's where the majority of m

Re: [lopsa-discuss] The future of LOPSA

2015-06-25 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Warner wrote: > We're going to send another reminder via e-mail before the election > closes. I've been talking about it regularly in IRC. Are there other > mediums available that you'd suggest? > Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn/other social media? -- brandon s allbe

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Fwd: Slack

2015-07-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Allan Irving wrote: > You can stay in the dark ages but some of us are thinking ahead. Given the > responses, it is clear to me that moving on into the modern century is the > way forward. > Slack is only forward in "coolness", not in security, privacy, or anythi

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Slack

2015-07-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Allan Irving wrote: > Do you guys even update your servers or would that just be too intrusive > on your tried and tested old methodology? Is that the sysadmin version of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?"? -- brandon s allbery kf8nh

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Slack

2015-07-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Derek J. Balling wrote: > Absolutely. But in the modern paradigm it's stable, reliable, *and > frequent*, which was the point i was addressing in the message I was > replying to. > I dare you to apply that to accounts receivable. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh

Re: [lopsa-discuss] IM vs email

2015-07-13 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Allan Irving wrote: > I would have set a Slack group up. Problem is, for what purpose and for > which people? Sure, it’s not complicated but I think I’ve invested all I > want to into LOPSA and or the community. First time I’ve really > participated within it and

Re: [lopsa-discuss] Mailing lists vs. New Technologies

2015-07-18 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Adam Moskowitz wrote: > I don't see this problem ever being solved, and saying "just stick to > email" isn't really a solution. I think the main reason so many people > say "stick to email" is a combination of a lack of good consolidation > tools (or the lack of c

Re: [lopsa-discuss] "Stupid SysAdmin tricks for $500, Alex"

2011-05-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 19:44, Paul Graydon wrote: > On 05/24/2011 01:22 PM, David Bronder wrote: > ps waxu | grep ssh | grep -iv grep | awk {'print $2'} | xargs kill > Amazing how this stuff accretes ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.lopsa.or

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