On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Rhys Rhaven <r...@rhavenindustrys.com>
wrote:

> But the point is that hardware and largely operations can and are being
> automated, and its making a lot of services traditionally rendered by
> SysAdmins commodities. If you're not a developer, if you aren't moving to
> work on APIs, distributed systems, algorithmically optimized networks, you
> aren't helping.


If you believe that none of us are doing this or paying any attention to
it, then *you* are not paying attention. Automation has been a key focus
for years.

If you believe that somehow there is no need for planning any more but
something push-buttonable that any dev can do without coordination or
thinking --- an all too common view that is attempting to hijack devops ---
then you are at best inexperienced. Ask Google or Amazon SREs how far that
goes.

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