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NTPsec and gpsd do not drop support for i386". :-)
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quot;sweep") is now less than 1ms. This is impressive, but
for NTP, this places a lower bound on our jitter.
What am I missing?
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Hi,
Fedora 34 has shipped. Among other changes, ntpsec replaces ntpd during an
upgrade.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/34/ChangeSet#ntp_replacement
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NtpReplacement
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wrote:
>
> There are 4 places that might be the limiting factor.
>
> 1) The wire might be full
> 2) The Ethernet chip might
As of 20 minutes ago, I can now pull from the repository unauthenticated.
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020, 8:21 am Eric S. Raymond, wrote:
> Neustifter Andreas :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have searched for similar incidents (e.g.
> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gl-infra/infrastructure/-/issues/6022)
> which lead m
Ah, so not my fault.
I tried updating my fork about 11 hours ago, and was to authenticate to
pull from the NTPsec git repo. I tried with another repo, it worked, so I
assumed one of us was modifying the security settings of the repo.
On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, 7:38 am James Browning via devel,
wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 11:13 PM James Browning via devel
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:59 PM Hal Murray via devel
> wrote:
> > Can we run ntpd long enough to test the initialization and much of the
> other code?
>
> Possibly, but to test some of the code paths (NTS) would take about a
> day.
gtm claims that mode = 3 line is unreachable.
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They support *any* git repository.
Please see: https://lgtm.com/projects/g/ntpsec/ntpsec/?mode=list
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drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Oct 21 2017 renewal-hooks
We need to add this to the NTS Howto. Let me draft some language.
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM Hal Murray wrote:
> > Which causes ntpd to fail on s
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM Hal Murray wrote:
> > Which causes ntpd to fail on startup (I assume after dropping root):
>
> Looks like you are dying trying to read the certificate. It will get
> worse
> when you want to read the key.
>
> --
>
> Do you trust user ntp? If so, the f
LE, I want that directory secure, and I
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On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:16 AM Richard Laager via devel
wrote:
> ntpd seems to load the TLS certificate and key before dropping
> privileges. Unfortunately, wh
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:51 AM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
> I'm expecting there will be a new port number assigned for the KE server.
> Step 1 will be to listen on both old and new port #
> Step 2 is to switch the client side to default to the new port #.
> Step 3 is to stop listening on
misread the line. You are right, the code was not removed.
I assume there are no reporting users? Would a blog entry help, in
eliciting response?
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I am trying to track down if MS-SNTP support was added back, and if it is
supported.
We have an entry in the news file, about removal, but none on addition.
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:32 AM Andrew Bartlett
gt; in gpsd are the way they all want it done.
>
Gary, my proposal was to follow what NTPsec is doing, exactly.
Currently:
NTPsec: Copyright Some-Name
GPSd: Copyright (c) Some-Year Some-Name
Mark?
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I have sent in a MR,
https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/-/merge_requests/1121
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wrote:
>
> devel@ntpsec.org said:
> > Much our of NTS cod
t; becomes your pivot year. This
means that data containing a two-digit year between "00-20" will be treated
as post-2000, while years between 20-99 will be interpreted as referring to
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> I will do that, and re-read Quick-NTS (which was written early on).
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>
> > links to the NTPsec quickstart page -
> > https://docs.ntpsec.org/la
/me gets popcorn, sits back:-)
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between PPS and serial data can easily cause trouble here because _ntpd_
has no way to join the two data streams and correlate the serial data
with the PPS events.
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https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2019/8/what-you-need-to-know-about-timing-and-sync-in-5G-transport-networks
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:54 AM Richard Laager via devel
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> On 11/17/19 6:44 AM, Sanjeev Gupta via deve
Hal,
I met Christer W (Netnod) and Dieter S (PTB) at the Hackathon.
Interesting discussion on the 5G requirements, and Christer's setup (his
NTS-KE feeding a patched Chrony).
Good to put a face to an email address.
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Is there anyone on this list in Singapore this week?
I see the Netnod NTS implementation listed in the Hackathon wiki, but could
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IETF 106 is in Singapore in November. For once, I am in the same country
(at least as far as my travel plans stand now)
Interop? What can I do to sweeten your trip here?
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Gary, ALPN string checking. The commit mentioned that it would break with
previous NTPSec versions.
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:28 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
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> Yo Sanjeev!
>
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 07:15
Eric, there is a incompatibility break, so could we do 1.2.0 , please?
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:47 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel
wrote:
> We're preparing for a minor point release, probably 1.17, on or about
> 1 Au
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 1:49 PM Achim Gratz via devel
wrote:
> Mark Atwood via devel writes:
> > How does everyone feel about next Saturday, Aug 31 2019-07-31?
>
> You've got a time machine? 8-)
>
No, but as Chronos is not implemented, he can set time to what ever he
wants on the NIST and USN
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 4:46 AM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
> The 3rd case is when it gets back something other than "ntske/1".
> I haven't found a test case for that one yet. If anybody still has a
> system
> still running our old/buggy code, please let me know the IP Address.
>
Hal, 203.123.4
-compliant, NTS
implementations.
Basically, I wish to highlight that things may *break* with pre 1.2.0
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On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 2:12 AM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta :
> > We need a point release. Significant th
:43 AM Sanjeev Gupta via devel
> wrote:
>
>> We need a point release. Significant things that have happened recently:
>>
>>
>>- The g and G suffixes
>>- Removal of neoclock4x
>>- Some doc changes
>>- The ALPN change
>>
>>
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 2:36 AM Matthew Selsky
wrote:
> Does it make sense to call this 1.2.0 instead of 1.1.7? Especially since
> we have the ALPN compatiblity fix?
>
Yes, please. Although NTS implementation internally has (only trivially)
changed, a bump to 1.2.0 would provide more warning to
our implementation,
so that we can test again.
Please note only the first point above is captured in the NEWS file.
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On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 1:45 PM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
>
> There is probably something like a FAQ entry that explains that if you
> want to
> get time relevant data from A to B, you have to start by sending something
> from B to A, a nonce if nothing else.
>
> You could eliminate duplicates
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:22 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel
wrote:
> Hal Murray :
> > I remember a comment about there being no way to do broadcast securely.
> It
> > would be good to include an expanded version of that in the
> documentation.
>
> That's covered. In the page on NTPsec changes:
>
>
On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 7:35 PM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta via devel :
> > I have a feeling that was also removed, at some time. Has it?
>
> I do not recall that we explicitly removed it. But I wouldn't count on
> it to work without testing.
>
Th
Hi,
I know that broadcast *client* mode was removed last year, because it was
impossible to secure.
Broadcast *server* mode was deprecated.
I have a feeling that was also removed, at some time. Has it?
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connect to a 10G optical WDM cable?
Please? :-)
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019, 4:11 AM Eric S. Raymond, wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta :
> > Eric,
> >
> > It works, perfectly.
> >
> > refclock shm unit 1 prefer refid PPS time1 0g flag4 1
> > refclock shm unit 0 refid GPS tim
ck skyview.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 1:42 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel
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> Well, that was a simple fix.
>
> Turns out thre was a sneaky early exit in one of the functions
> I was u
Eric,a data point. This works:
refclock shm unit 0 refid GPS time1 619315200.450 flag4 1
(the large number is 1024 weeks, the 0.450 is a delay)
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> Sanjeev Gu
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:14 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:07:14 +0800
> Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
>
> > The widest integer I have is "long long int", which is 8 bytes. I
> > need a bit more for "nuber of secs in 8192 weeks&quo
4 bytes
Size of long long int: 8 bytes
Size of float: 4 bytes
Size of double: 8 bytes
Size of long double: 12 bytes
Size of char: 1 byte
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> Yo Sanjeev!
>
&
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 5:05 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
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> Yo Eric!
>
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:01:02 -0400
> "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote:
>
> > Sanjeev Gupta :
> &
Eric,
double is 8 bytes
long double is 12 bytes
Long double should be enough, I think
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 5:01 AM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta :
> > Eric,
> >
> > sizeof(double) seems to
rev f99a58821)
root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec/docs# ntpq -pn
server=localhost No association IDs returned
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 3:50 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel
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> Sanjeev, would you please look in your logs and see if the co
-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.19.37-3 (2019-05-15) i686
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> Sanjeev Gupta :
> > Eric,
> >
> > On a 32-bit debian:
> >
> > [ 73/101] Compil
rt
2000-01-01T02:23:58 ntpd[20105]: NTSc: Using system default root
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> I've just pushed a change that interprets a 'g' suffix on a c
)
^
../../ntpd/ntp_scanner.c:940:20: note: in expansion of macro ‘GPS_ERA_13BIT’
era_offset += GPS_ERA_13BIT;
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On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 1:41 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel
wrote
are old
I will work on integrating NTS into the documentation.
We release 1.2, big feature is NTS, and continue handling bug reports.
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:08 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
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> Yo Sanjeev!
>
&g
Release, release release!
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 9:59 AM Gary E. Miller via devel,
wrote:
> Yo Eric!
>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:54:54 -0400
> "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote:
>
> > Sanjeev Gupta :
> > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 8:47 PM Eric S. Raymond
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 8:47 PM Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Do you cansider the NTS documentation to be in good shape?
>
Yes, enough to get it up and running. I have moved the Quickstart from
devel/ to docs/ , and merged it into the existing documentation.
I have had an NTS server running publicl
Hi,
We have 26 issues on the tracker, https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/issues
As NTS support works (for me, and in interop), could we triage and release?
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if the Cert has changed, and start using the new
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Gary, no, I didn't install their cert chain.
Do you need access to my host?
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 9:25 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
wrote:
> Yo Sanjeev!
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:16:17 +0800
> Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
>
> > Mine works.
>
> Odd.
>
>
Updated mine, thanks.
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On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 2:53 PM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
> > I had the same problem, just change this
> > ntpd/nts_client.c: const char *label = "EXPORTER-nts/1";
> > To
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 11:40 PM Hal Murray wrote:
>
> The server response wasn't setting up the right length for the encrypted
> part.
> The client receive side didn't use that field b
Gary,
It works with a mix of NTS and NTP, I removed the NTP to force it to sync
with your servers.
All seems OK now.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 12:20 PM Gary E. Miller wrote:
> Yo Sanjeev!
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 08:31:34 +0800
> Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
>
> > I removed all no
178.6117 6.7752 1.3341
+178.62.68.7917.253.34.2532 8 58 64
377 185.7336 -0.4399 0.4358
Thank you. I will review the docs and add my 5-line HOWTO later today.
No rest for the helpful: How do I check if I am an NTS server?
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:32 AM Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:24 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
> wrote:
>
>
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:24 AM Gary E. Miller via devel
wrote:
> > I have been lurking and trying to set up NTS to talk to the rellim.com
> > servers. This is a recent git head.
>
> Cool.
>
I just did a git pull and rebuilt.
> > My ntp.conf snippet:
> >
> > nts enable
> > nts cert /etc/letse
.NTS. 16 u- 1024
0 0. 0. 0.0005
kong.rellim.com .NTS. 16 u- 1024
0 0. 0. 0.0005
And the log is here: https://pastebin.com/fM9uDwVi
What am I missing?
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servers anycasting all over, and they
have a clean interface, with export-in-bind-format available. And they are
free.
So a domain with DNS is a few dollars for the first year, and $10 renewal.
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:57 AM Hal
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:04 PM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
>
> Testing. Get it up and running in your local environment. If you have a
> real
> certificate and are willing to support some testing traffic, tell me/us
> the
> host name and/or send us the root certificate.
>
I have a server runn
GPS time1 0.450 flag4 1
Question: What is line 11? After stripping away blank lines and comments?
In either case, I see nothing funny on a column 6
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resolved was secured with DNSSEC or not. They will, depending on the policy
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Hal,
debian testing has 1.67
OpenSuse Tumbleweed has 1.68
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 9:00 AM Hal Murray via devel
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> The draft has links to two chunks of software.
> https://gitlab.com/MLanger/nts/
>
Gary, Hal,
If you bump up your scale factor in the pool, traffic will ramp up slowly,
over days or weeks.
If you bump down, or leave, traffic will take months, or longer, to stop.
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, 4:02 am Hal Murray via devel
> Gary said:
> > I have a RasPi in the ntp pool. Typically aro
Achim, apologies for the lack of clarity.
500pps is TX. RX is slightly higher.
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On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 3:42 AM Achim Gratz via devel
wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta via devel writes:
> > PPS is about 500/s, RX is 10% mor
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:23 AM Achim Gratz via devel
wrote:
> Sanjeev Gupta via devel writes:
> > root@ntpmon:~# ntpq -n -c direct -c mrulist | wc -l
> > 17306
> >
> > I am in the sg, in, and asia pools. v4 and v6. Server access is
> available
> > if you
tual measurements before I've convinced
> that
> ntpd with even a thosand client connections is a performance-degrading
> load.
>
root@ntpmon:~# ntpq -n -c direct -c mrulist | wc -l
17306
I am in the sg, in, and asia pools. v4 and v6. Server access is available
if you
On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 3:32 AM Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
> The usual solution to the maintain 2 places problem is to write a program
> to
> translate one format into the other. Then we have to maintain that
> program. :)
>
Which program? The C or the Python?
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> > If I am reading the ci.yaml file right,the docs are being built only on
> an
> > Alpine image,not on Fedora, etc.
>
> That seems unlikely. I'd expect our doc to build on any system that
> supports
> asciidoc. Maybe not on an old ve
Gary, Hal,
If I am reading the ci.yaml file right,the docs are being built only on an
Alpine image,not on Fedora, etc.
Matt is maintaining this file, I think
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wrote
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:54 AM Paul Theodoropoulos
wrote:
> On 9/21/2018 1:07 AM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
>
> My concern is that the space between "25" and "kg" should be
> non-breaking. Else, readability suffers badly. How do you do this in
> asciidoc?
&g
Paul,
Personally, I find 25kg, 50ppm, 3m, more readable; but that is neither here
nor there.
My concern is that the space between "25" and "kg" should be non-breaking.
Else, readability suffers badly. How do you do this in asciidoc?
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I have not had a chance to play with it, but the offer included a
requirement to upstream into cacti and provide a working example.
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Jason
Please see
https://github.com/netniV/cacti-templates/tree/master/NTP
On 27 Feb 2018 7:45 pm, "Sanjeev Gupta" wrote:
Apologies.
I checked an hour ago, and the guy who assured me that we were using
'native' SNMP has come back saying he setup the cacti script that tal
a devel" wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 PM, Richard Laager via devel
> wrote:
> > On 02/26/2018 06:16 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
> >> Richard, I am using cacti.
> >
> > That's what I was hoping to hear, since I also run Cacti. Are you
> > willi
> Related to point 2; do you have rough numbers of how long / many
instances of this have been running?
A few weeks now on at least one. You may recall I had a bug report about
IPv6 addresses.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:08
(apologies for the top posts)
Richard, I am using cacti. Have been planning to add it to observium as
well, will try tonight.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Richard Laager wrote:
> On 02/26/2018 06:13 PM, Sanjeev Gu
Hi,
For what it is worth, I am running the ntpsnmpd code on a number of debian
and ubuntu machines for some time, including one with an actual GPS. No
issues so far.
I just like to see graphs.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:09 AM
package would be called "ntpsec", and
marked as conflicting with ntp. So installing ntpsec would remove ntp.
Namespace clashes would not occur.
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 6:08 AM, Hal Murray via devel
wrote:
>
> W
> - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -us dist-upgrade && sudo
apt-get -u dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove
I find
apt-get --purge autoremove
better, as it removes any config files as well, reducing surprises when you
next re-install a package.
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ot;patches" in HEAD? Then I can try
them out regularly on Ubuntu and Debian variants I run, and file
appropriate reports.
Thanks,
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Gary E. Miller via devel
wrote:
> Yo Ian!
>
> On Sun
Hi,
I would dearly love to see #204 (/etc/ntp.d) be included in 1.0.
As a SysAdm, I typically read the new features list rarely. If it does not
land in 1.0 (and pacakge managers and I do not start using it then), it may
never get used.
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uot;if". How do you think I landed up with
them? Thought they were really cool and should not be discarded, broke my
back trying to pick them up. :-)
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whoever is willing
to play around.
I am not sure that there will be any Sysadmins who will install NTPSec on
HPUX, the few installations I know are strictly in "do not touch, very
important business application running, last guy who understood this left
three years ago".
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On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:23 AM, Matthew Selsky via devel
wrote:
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> Sanjeev/Hal,
>
> Did waf's endian-ness test not detect this properly?
It worked perfectly, no manual intervention or extra parameters required.
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, built, passed checks, and installed. Running now for 12
hours
Will upgrade to Debian 8.8 now.
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. Debian testing head, too :-)
Let me know who needs access.
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On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
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> Is there a web page that describes buildbot? If not, I'll make it if you
> feed me the info.
And shift buildbot web master to the new server :-)
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just before lunch, I plan to actually use a RPi and a GPS puck
to build and run NTPsec.
Any pointers for the talk? Average audience is 25-35 year olds, from S E
Asia.
Susan, do you have a slide deck I could "be inspired by"?
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> On my long term todo list to get more buildbots up.
Hey, what happened to the plan to shift to the VM I set up?
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