Re: [SailfishDevel] Happy holidays from Jolla Harbour!

2015-12-23 Thread Bob Summerwill
Indeed. Happy Christmas, Sailors! Here's to an exciting (in a good way) 2016 for Sailfish OS and Jolla :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R91QF6Xbaow On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Richard Rondu wrote: > Happy Christmas and happy new year guys ! Thanks for the hard work. > > On Wed, Dec

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone arrives at doublethinkco!

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Summerwill
See https://twitter.com/doublethink_co/status/669689473551101952 Hopefully catch some of in tomorrow's Community Meeting. Or if not, will be on IRC afterwards to catch up. Best wishes! -- b...@summerwill.net ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To

Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 26-November @ 14:30 UTC

2015-11-25 Thread Bob Summerwill
Thanks! As with last week, I may or may not be able to attend, due to timezones. But please do go ahead with that question in my absence, if I can't make it. Should be pretty self-explanatory ... How can we de-risk and decentralize essential infrastructure for Sailfish and Jolla? How can the c

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 19.11. + planning for next one 26.11.

2015-11-19 Thread Bob Summerwill
Thank *you*, Iekku! Topic suggested at https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/?answer=122277#post-id-122277 Name / IRC nick : bobsummerwill topic: Explore options to decentralize Jolla, SailfishOS and Mer essential infrastructure - reposito

Re: [SailfishDevel] Planning for next SailfishOS community meeting 19.11.2015

2015-11-11 Thread Bob Summerwill
if not due to their timezone like me, then because of work or other commitments. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > Seconded. > > Blog posting would be just fine.The request is simple and clear, and > isn't new. > > "What's the plan?&quo

Re: [SailfishDevel] Planning for next SailfishOS community meeting 19.11.2015

2015-11-04 Thread Bob Summerwill
Seconded. Blog posting would be just fine.The request is simple and clear, and isn't new. "What's the plan?" :-) On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Alexander Ivash wrote: > Hi, > > Ok, community meeting was delayed, but is it possible to get at least some > info on 'Request more information o

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 8.10 + planning for next one 22.10

2015-10-08 Thread Bob Summerwill
Thanks Carol and everybody else for taking the time for this community chat :-) On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Carol Chen wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting! It was lengthy but we had > great discussions. Minutes/logs: > > Minutes: > > http://merproject.org/meeting

Re: [SailfishDevel] next community meeting ??

2015-09-27 Thread Bob Summerwill
> > Cheers from Italy, > Carol. > > From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ > devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Bob Summerwill [ > b...@summerwill.net] > Sent: 22 September 2015 16:12 > To: Sailfish development list > Subject: Re: [Sailfish

Re: [SailfishDevel] next community meeting ??

2015-09-22 Thread Bob Summerwill
So are we going to have a Community meeting soon? Cheers, Bob On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > Me too! > > I just added ... 'Request more information on Roadmap for open-sourcing > more of Sailfish.' > On Sep 11, 2015 6:32 AM, "Aleksi Su

Re: [SailfishDevel] next community meeting ??

2015-09-11 Thread Bob Summerwill
Me too! I just added ... 'Request more information on Roadmap for open-sourcing more of Sailfish.' On Sep 11, 2015 6:32 AM, "Aleksi Suomalainen" wrote: > Hello, > > I've added a couple of topics to the tjc discussion, could you please have > your say and organize a meeting, please? > > - Aleksi

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-08-26 Thread Bob Summerwill
gt; the company reorg etc., when we have some more details figured out > ourselves :) > > Cheers, > Carol. > > > On 08/21/2015 04:07 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > >> Thanks for that info, Jonni. >> >> The information is on the Mer Wiki. >> >> Pl

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-08-21 Thread Bob Summerwill
C++# works with headers and libs, it does not need source code. So > for our particular job we couldn't care less if Silica's closed or not. > > I hope I have been helpful, otherwise let me know. > > > Regards, > Dimitar > > > > > On Wednesday,

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-08-21 Thread Bob Summerwill
n? Maybe it is time for another OSS community meeting, Carol? On Aug 19, 2015 9:48 AM, "Jonni Nakari" wrote: > On 19.08.2015 15:24, Bob Summerwill wrote: > >> Is Silica the ONLY non-open-sourced part of Sailfish? Alien Dalvik is >> obviously commercial, but isn&#

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-08-19 Thread Bob Summerwill
ndent module - QtGui. Once that's done, I'll have only > QtWidgets to wrap which means that Qt# will be ready for building visual > examples. > > Regards, > Dimitar > > > > On Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:23 AM, Bob Summerwill > wrote: > > > >

Re: [SailfishDevel] Other programming languages for developing Harbour apps.

2015-08-10 Thread Bob Summerwill
A common technique for this sort of need on other mobile platforms is to embed your 'unusual language' code within an 'approved language' application and I assume that approach would be workable for Sailfish as well. Most likely to succeed are scenarios where you can compile to a static library fr

Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

2015-07-17 Thread Bob Summerwill
uot; < cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:23:37 -0400 > Bob Summerwill wrote: > > > Well said, Chris! > > > > Like everybody else British of a certain age, I cut my teeth on a BBC > > Model B. A close friend

Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

2015-07-17 Thread Bob Summerwill
la to get to the ending which we want to see. Pitch in. Develop. Bug fix. Build things on top. You can't do that with Android, or Tizen, or iOS, or Windows. And if you want a fun docudrama to watch then I highly recommend... Micro Men - (Sinclair Vs. Acorn BBC docudrama): https:/

Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

2015-07-15 Thread Bob Summerwill
It's an Indian partner! Brilliant news. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/intex-to-unveil-first-smartphone-with-sailfish-os-20-at-mwc-shanghai-715542 On Jul 11, 2015 7:03 AM, "Bob Summerwill" wrote: > I guess nobody knows what to think because we just don't have

Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Summerwill
I guess nobody knows what to think because we just don't have enough information to make a judgement. MWC Shanghai is 15-17 July, so Wed to Fri of the coming week. See http://www.mwcshanghai.com/ My hope would be that Jolla announce a new Chinese partner who have licensed Sailfish 2.0 to bring i

[SailfishDevel] Scope of Sailfish versus Jolla in new company configuration?

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Summerwill
Please could somebody clarify exactly where the boundaries are between Mer, Sailfish and Jolla in this new world? Mer is obviously open-source. Parts, but not all of Sailfish are open-source. Specifically Silica is proprietary, and presumably will remain so. Is that essentially the 'crown je

[SailfishDevel] Support for paid applications

2015-07-11 Thread Bob Summerwill
Please could we get a status update? https://together.jolla.com/question/6522/harbourstore-support-for-paid-applications/ If the newly licensing-oriented Jolla wants to make any sales, this feature is essential. Without a means for developers to make money (hint - donations are nice but thorough

Re: [SailfishDevel] State of BLE in Sailfish?

2015-06-22 Thread Bob Summerwill
Thanks for the update! On Jun 22, 2015 5:48 AM, "Javier S. Pedro" wrote: > El 18/06/15 a las 14:58, Bob Summerwill escribió: > >> >> What is the current state of BLE support in Sailfish? I know there was >> a big long story about BlueZ 4 and 5 an

[SailfishDevel] Tizen - the emperor has no clothes

2015-06-21 Thread Bob Summerwill
See https://lists.tizen.org/pipermail/general/2015-June/003516.html. I just spoke some truth to the Tizen Project leadership. It will be interesting to see how they respond, or do not respond. Bob Summerwill Kitsilano Softwarehttp://bobsummerwill.com | http://kitsilanosoftware.com -- b

[SailfishDevel] State of BLE in Sailfish?

2015-06-18 Thread Bob Summerwill
What is the current state of BLE support in Sailfish? I know there was a big long story about BlueZ 4 and 5 and Qt versions and so on when I was investigating last summer. Where did we get to on that? I still want to achieve self-hosting on a mobile Linux, and what I show below on Android with

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-06-18 Thread Bob Summerwill
mples. > > Regards, > Dimitar > > > > On Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:23 AM, Bob Summerwill > wrote: > > > >> In this context a bind of Xamarin.Form could be really interesting to > catch developers attentions > >> and allow for easy app po

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-06-18 Thread Bob Summerwill
nteresting to > catch developers attentions and allow for easy app port for the many that > are using that technology (and this day seems a lot). > Michele > > 2015-06-18 8:42 GMT+02:00 Bob Summerwill : > >> Greetings! >> >> Last year the Mono for Sailfish project wa

Re: [SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-06-18 Thread Bob Summerwill
T AT ALL development in the open or community-friendly. It is just like Android in that respect, just with a better, more GNU/Linux aligned code-base. Cheers, Bob On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > Greetings! > > Last year the Mono for Sailfish project was

[SailfishDevel] Mono for Sailfish - round #2?

2015-06-17 Thread Bob Summerwill
n source license? Nothing that would hinder this binding work, eh? Cheers, Bob Summerwill Kitsilano Software (http://bobsummerwill.wordpress.com/about) -- b...@summerwill.net ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send

Re: [SailfishDevel] New SailfishOS phone manufacturer

2015-06-09 Thread Bob Summerwill
happen on probably both Jolla devices and potentially on > ported devices. > > Aleksi > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Bob Summerwill > wrote: > >> Hey everyone! >> >> Dalvik is part of the AOSP (Android Open Source Project), so it is FOSS. >> >>

Re: [SailfishDevel] New SailfishOS phone manufacturer

2015-06-09 Thread Bob Summerwill
Hey everyone! Dalvik is part of the AOSP (Android Open Source Project), so it is FOSS. Then at least 3 vendors that I am aware of have taken that and built a commercial Android compatibility solution by re-using that code on top of another OS. These are commercial offerings (and proprietary) so

Re: [SailfishDevel] BlueZ upstreaming?

2014-09-15 Thread Bob Summerwill
Thanks, Hannu, While we don't have any meaningful commit history in the public source code, I'm sure we can find the relevant people within Samsung to get additional context and narrative on the changes, if we see value there. I'd be happy to keep chasing that, if it would be useful to you? Che

Re: [SailfishDevel] BlueZ upstreaming?

2014-09-12 Thread Bob Summerwill
Sailfish development list, for archiving of the conversation, and so that Bluetooth developers on Mer/Sailfish/Jolla can have this additional context. Thanks! Cheers, Bob On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > Thanks for the great summary, Javier. > > I just realized

Re: [SailfishDevel] Bluedroid in Julia

2014-09-09 Thread Bob Summerwill
I assume he means Jolla. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Harald Schmitt wrote: > Am 09.09.2014 um 14:39 schrieb Tony: > > Android had used Bluedroid to replace BlueZ since Android4.2. Does Julia > have plan to use it? If Julia use it, when will migrate it into Julia OS? > What is Julia OS? > ___

Re: [SailfishDevel] Bluedroid in Julia

2014-09-09 Thread Bob Summerwill
>From what I can see, BlueZ for Android is more fully-featured than Bluedroid, in addition to being a more standard package: http://www.bluez.org/additional-features-of-bluez-for-android/ The BlueZ team have been putting significant effort into making BlueZ look more appealing than Bluedroid,

Re: [SailfishDevel] Announcing "Mono for Sailfish"

2014-08-22 Thread Bob Summerwill
ul code, where developers only need 2% subset, but you will pay the > price of the bloat and complexity anyway (troubles with PySide are a good > example of this). Therefore I think QtSharp is suboptimal approach. > > Obviously I don't want to act as stop energy, but "look

Re: [SailfishDevel] Announcing "Mono for Sailfish"

2014-08-22 Thread Bob Summerwill
Correction .. "I would love to see a teenager in a poor country getting his first computer (probably a smartphone) and being able to build and sell C# applications using just that device to SELL to rich Westerners." On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Bob Summerwill wrote: > + Damie

Re: [SailfishDevel] Announcing "Mono for Sailfish"

2014-08-22 Thread Bob Summerwill
+ Damien and Dimitar. Thanks for the links, info and suggestions! Yes, Sailfish is just one of N platforms where Qt/QML+Mono will be useful. The appeal of Sailfish for the initial development is that it lets us hit a mobile platform where Qt is the standard (and only?) UI technology. Qt for Ti

[SailfishDevel] Announcing "Mono for Sailfish"

2014-08-21 Thread Bob Summerwill
http://github.com/mono/CppSharp.He'll be building the bindings, and will probably end up doing the Mono Runtime port as well, based on the fantastic job which Damien Diederen did for the Tizen Mono Runtime. Cheers, Bob Summerwill, Kitsilano Software http://twitter.com/bobsumme