Thanks for the update, Aleksi, and good luck with that effort! It would be great to have such a layer available for all the various Linuxes.
Cheers, Bob On Jun 9, 2015 10:41 AM, "Aleksi Suomalainen" <suomalainen.ale...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm working at the porters team and this FOSS Android compatibility layer > is somewhat a Holy Grail for us porters. Currently our idea is that we > should somehow get Chromium runtime, essentially doing QtWebEngine from Qt > 5.4 with nacl support to get this. This would lead to testing the ARC > project from Google (which is unfortunately not fully open source). The > person who is doing this (or at least gives it a shot) goes by the IRC nick > nh1402 (couldn't do a whois while writing this, as he was offline). > > So the work going for this has been at least laid the foundation for the > Android runtime to happen on probably both Jolla devices and potentially on > ported devices. > > Aleksi > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Bob Summerwill <b...@summerwill.net> > wrote: > >> Hey everyone! >> >> Dalvik is part of the AOSP (Android Open Source Project), so it is FOSS. >> >> Then at least 3 vendors that I am aware of have taken that and built a >> commercial Android compatibility solution by re-using that code on top of >> another OS. These are commercial offerings (and proprietary) so somebody >> has to buy and pay for the licenses. That is what Jolla did for their >> Sailfish handset, but this is not free software, so you won't get it for >> BYOD efforts, and other handset manufacturers would need to do their own >> deals. >> >> I have seen: >> >> >> http://www.myriadgroup.com/products/device-solutions/mobile-software/alien-dalvik/ >> (is being used by Jolla) >> http://www.openmobileww.com/ (is being used by Tizen, but also works on >> FirefoxOS, webOS, Windows and Linux) >> http://www.bluestacks.com/ (have their main success on PC, but also made >> a micro console - http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/11/gamepop-review/) >> >> It should be possible for the community to build a FOSS product just like >> this, if there were appetite for it. >> >> Of course, Dalvik is not even shipped with Android anymore. That JITting >> VM has been replaced with an AOT compilation technology called ART, which >> pre-compiles binaries at install time. I believe that ART is also part of >> the AOSP project, so it should be possible to build something using that >> too. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:15 AM, E.S. Rosenberg < >> es.rosenberg+sailfishos....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I doubt there is any contract that says other companies can't get a >>> license on dalvik... >>> >>> 2015-06-09 11:06 GMT+03:00 <schif...@polytech.unice.fr>: >>> >>>> Because as somebody told me in the Neo900 support" thread, Jolla has >>>> currently only the licence to distribute Myriad Alien Dalvik with there >>>> smartphones and not for all devices which can run Sailfish. >>>> >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > I don't see why dalvik would not be available. If the OS runs on the >>>> > device, dalvik should be able to run too. >>>> > >>>> > Alex. >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM, <schif...@polytech.unice.fr> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Well it seems Jolla will not make a new device soon. So in case >>>> somebody >>>> >> has an answer to my previous question, I'm still listening ;). >>>> >> >>>> >> > TOH is only Jolla feature, not 3rd party developers of course. >>>> Talk to >>>> >> > these companies and ask them to implement TOH in their sailfishos >>>> >> devices >>>> >> > :) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 03.06.2015 23:02, Martin Kolman пишет: >>>> >> >> Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:46:02 +0200 schif...@polytech.unice.fr: >>>> >> >>> Hi, >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> I have heard there will be new official Sailfish phone >>>> >> manifacturers. >>>> >> >>> On >>>> >> >>> this smartphones will the Android apps be supported ? If yes, >>>> does >>>> >> it >>>> >> >>> mean >>>> >> >>> that all the smartphones with Sailfish will have Alien Dalvik >>>> >> >>> available ? >>>> >> >> Also what about the ToH concept ? It would be a shame to loose it >>>> on >>>> >> new >>>> >> >> devices just when the first ToH keyboards start shipping... >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> (BTW, as most current ToHs use 3D printed components it does not >>>> >> >> necessarily >>>> >> >> need to be mechanically compatible, just electrically - and even >>>> that >>>> >> >> is not >>>> >> >> that important. In short - any interface that makes it possible to >>>> >> >> mechanically >>>> >> >> attach something to the back of the device + power & data & >>>> interrupt >>>> >> >> channel >>>> >> >> would do.) >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Best Wishes >>>> >> >> Martin >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Best Regards, >>>> >> >>> Alexandre Schifano >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> >> >>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> >> >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> >> >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >> > >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> >> > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> >> > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> b...@summerwill.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > >
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