Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-22 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 6:32 PM, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > But is Red Hat still commited to open source and to the freedom of software? > > I feel no and feel cheated and betrayed. Hey Ralf, why do you feel that way? The sources are still available both upstream (CentOS) and downstream (albeit b

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-22 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > 1. Fedora Rawhide continually updated > 2. ELN maintained in parallel, as part of Fedora > 3. At some point, ELN branched to new CentOS Stream > 4. ... a year or so of CentOS Stream development in public ... > 5. RHEL Beta forked from that

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-06-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/27/23 10:40, Hans de Goede wrote: > Ok, so can you provide some instructions for how to make this work ? I guess it would be something like add the cmdline option + then start some systemd unit ? Can you please put some instructions for this in the testing section of: https://fedoraproj

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-06-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/27/23 13:04, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 6/27/23 12:36, Adam Williamson wrote: To be fair, you're writing as if it's certain that a webUI-based Workstation live cannot install to a 2G system, but AFAIK that has not yet been demonstrated. It would seem reasonable to test it before deciding

orphaned packages

2023-06-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hi, I've orphaned some packages that I am too unfamiliar with to maintain, especially now that these are mostly FTBS/FTI and have unmaintained upstreams: - preproc: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc - preproc-rpmspec: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc-rpmspec - rpkg-macros: htt

Re: orphaned packages

2023-06-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Side-question: am I supposed to do anything with Bugzilla's currently related to these packages that are assigned to me? (unassign/assign to orphan?). Regards, Simon ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: orphaned packages

2023-06-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/27/23 17:46, Simon de Vlieger wrote: Hi, I've orphaned some packages that I am too unfamiliar with to maintain, especially now that these are mostly FTBS/FTI and have unmaintained upstreams: - preproc: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/preproc - preproc-rpmspec:

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

2023-06-28 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/28/23 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: I already answered you here: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For now, the blueprint will be empty/min

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

2023-06-28 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- workstation-common.ks in it: https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks so it excludes three groups that are part of the 'standard' for live images bu

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

2023-06-28 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/28/23 22:32, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote: On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- workstation-common.ks in it: https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

2023-06-29 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 6/28/23 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: I already answered you here: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For now, the blueprint will be empty/min

Re: Automation of Fedora SCM requests

2022-12-08 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Michal Konecny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > for some time CPE (Community Platform Engineering) team is working on > automating Fedora SCM requests [0]. The automation is currently live on > staging. You can see the output (closed tickets) in Fedora SCM requests

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

2023-07-02 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/2/23 08:56, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 01/07/2023 14:28, Peter Robinson wrote: This sort of comment is off topic, various companies are free to do with their data as they wish, just as you are free to do with it as you please. This is not offtopic. What I mean is that a distributi

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-07-03 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/2/23 23:56, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Remote installation is not a solution to the memory bloat. It only pushes the problem to whatever machine the browser runs on, and it has significant and negative security implications. A solution here would be ensuring that the web UI uses no more RA

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

2023-07-03 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/3/23 13:46, Ralf Corsépius wrote: It is the core of the problem esp. big US companies tend to ignore. May-be you guys are not aware of there are tendencies to legally prohibit such "cloud solutions" in many countries? It's generally not so much 'legally prohibit' as 'data has to be kept

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

2023-07-03 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/3/23 17:18, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Fair. I wonder how much of that memory use would go away if instead of using Firefox, the web content ran in an embedded WebKitGTK+ webview. Browser security is not a concern here because in this case the web content is trusted, and this would also all

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Simon de Vlieger
I don't understand where my reply is supposed to go so here it is on the mailing list *and* on the forums? Are the change proposal owners reading both? -- Perhaps this is implicit in the use of eos-* but I seem to be missing a list of what metrics would be collected exactly and what is containe

Re: Immutable Variants & Persistence

2023-07-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 7/11/23 19:23, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Jonathan Steffan > mailto:jonathanstef...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > 2. All userspace is in RAM > > > For example, let's install `dnf install tuxpuck`. I'd expect `tuxpuck` > to be installed and playable. I wouldn't have

Re: Ownership of NVML

2023-07-15 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Emanuel Lima wrote: > I would like to take ownership of the nvml package, which was recently > orphaned, because kata-containers depends on it. You can click the button on https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nvml called 'take' to take ownership of orphaned packag

Re: Possible deprecation/removal of Initial Setup from Fedora

2023-11-21 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hi Jiri, On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Jiri Konecny wrote: > Hello everyone, > > * There are already alternatives: Gnome Initial Setup, > systemd-firstboot, and preparation for KDE solution of initial setup. So > the ecosystem changed from the time when Initial Setup was introduced. How ab

Joining Fedora Chat from own Homeserver

2022-09-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hello, Been looking for a place to hang out and chat to other Fedora people and through the docs I found: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/help/ I've previously used IRC to interact with the Fedora community and recently decided to switch to Matrix for those projects that support it s

Re: Joining Fedora Chat from own Homeserver

2022-09-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > That unfortunately seems typical -- I'm joining the space from a > different server too (Element One, ironically *also* hosted by EMS). > Joining from a different homeserver seems to be a bit unreliable no > matter which two server

Re: Joining Fedora Chat from own Homeserver

2022-09-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > This is an area of active development by the Matrix team; joining > *large* rooms (either large numbers of participants, large numbers of > messages, or both) is currently slow because it's a synchronous > operation. Your client waits f

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Thanks so much for the concerted effort and handling of this, this stuff isn't easy. Would it be wise to revert to the last version that was signed by Lasse Colin instead or would the impact be too high? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorap

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Richard, > Should we have a higher level of attention to these packages? We > already have "critical path", but that's a broad category now. These > seem like they are "security path" packages, an intentionally small > subset associated with very secure services which are enabled by > defaul

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hi Kevin, On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, at 7:31 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: >> Do we require 2FA for provenpackager yet? > > No. I am a provenpackager and do not have 2FA enabled (nor do I want it to > be). > >> People would say, justifiably so, that it was absolutely unacc

Re: Heads-up: python-typer 0.12.1 coming to Rawhide with a significant reorganization

2024-04-06 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Ben, On Sat, Apr 6, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Ben Beasley wrote: > - osbuild > dist-git: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ocrmypdf > upstream: https://github.com/osbuild/osbuild Thank you, I'll move our depends to `typer-slim`. I assume the dist-git URL is a mispaste? Regards, Simon -- _

Re: fedpkg clone not working

2022-06-09 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey, On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, at 2:02 AM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > I am unable to clone repos from src.fpo since this morning. > > $ fedpkg co xfce4-power-manager > Cloning into 'xfce4-power-manager'... > nonamed...@pkgs.fedoraproject.org: Permission denied (publickey). > fatal: Could not read from r

Re: Self Introduction: Ganesh Murthy

2022-06-17 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Ganesh, On Fri, Jun 17, 2022, at 5:30 PM, Ganesh Murthy wrote: > Hello all, > My name is Ganesh Murthy and I live in Massachusetts. I am > currently a contributor to the Apache qpid-dispatch project [1] and I > maintain its downstream packages (AMQ Interconnect). I also contribute > t

Re: planning to orphan python-django (and a couple of dependent packages) + potentially more

2022-07-06 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Matthias, On Wed, Jul 6, 2022, at 9:29 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 19/04/2022 15:00, Matthias Runge wrote: >> Hello there, >> > > Re-iterating on this email, also including de...@lists.fp.o > >> you may or may not know, I have been maintaining python-django for quite >> some time in the p

Re: Orphaning some packages

2022-07-08 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Christopher, I can take over: python-tenacity python-typeguard From you, my FAS account name is: supakeen Regards, Simon On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Christopher Brown wrote: > Hello, > > I've been doing a terrible job of maintaining these recently. Please > let me know if you would

Re: Fedora SCM requests on the weekend

2022-07-10 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Would you need any help regarding the automation? On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 01:02:15PM -, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: >> > On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 12:11:40PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> > >> > That said, until then I can try and run things

Re: orphaned python-pdir2

2022-07-16 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hey Carl, I've taken over the package and will make it build. Thank you. On Sat, Jul 16, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Carl George wrote: > I've just orphaned python-pdir2 as I no longer use it. Feel free to > take ownership if you like. Fair warning, it's failing to build for > Python 3.11 in rawhide, and

Re: Self Introduction: Uri Lublin

2024-12-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Uri Lublin wrote: > Holly Jolly Season's Greetings! > > I've been running Fedora Workstation on my laptop for many years. > I work at Red Hat on Virtualization and Confidential Computing. > > I'd like to add to Fedora some guest tools so that Confidential VMs ca

Re: compose reports make search in mailing list ineffective

2024-12-27 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, at 2:31 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > I'd like to ask if it would be possible to post all the "compose > reports" to an ad hoc mailing list. The reason is that when I need to > search the mailing list history for a topic which was previously > covered, I get swamped b

Re: compose reports make search in mailing list ineffective

2024-12-29 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/28/24 6:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 14:28 +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:31 PM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: I'd like to ask if it would be possible to post all the "compose reports" to an ad hoc mailing list. The reason is that when I ne

Re: WRT "Add explicit BR: libxcrypt-devel"

2025-02-03 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hi, On 2/3/25 12:13 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello Björn. I just realized you pushed a commit like this to all Pythons < 3.13: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python3.12/ c/14bc16980718d47128c25af68f33f1e249f0a36d?branch=rawhide It says "Add explicit BR: libxcrypt-devel" and it adds it an

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-16 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/16/24 9:42 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > On behalf of FESCo, please accept our apology for how we communicated > the news regarding the revocation of provenpackager privileges for > Peter Robinson. This one was really difficult for us to figure out > how best to communicate and we have ma

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/17/24 1:49 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: To be clear, none of the involved parties requested anonymity. The FESCo ticket was filed privately to avoid pre-judgement on the mailing list and so that FESCo could take their time discussing the issue. The ticket just cannot be made public post-fact

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-18 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/18/24 8:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Since I have not chimed in on this yet, let me just say that I am deeply sorry how the communication/timing/process went here. At the least I should have realized that many fesco members would be already away this week, so with lack of quorum, it's hard for

Re: Council update [was Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson]

2024-12-18 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/18/24 6:27 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: The Fedora Council met today. After our regular meeting (where we're taking the next formal step in the gitforge process!) [1], we had a private video call for about half an hour on this topic. As transparency is part of what's at issue, we intentionally

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Would it make sense to also change to the use of DDI [1] partition types in these GPT tables if we're about to go through them? [1]: https://uapi-group.org/specifications/specs/discoverable_partitions_specification/ Regards, Simon -- ___ devel mail

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/12/24 6:32 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: A hybrid GPT+MBR environment could fix this, couldn't it? In general, I would prefer to use GPT everywhere, and I know there are compatibility schemes for supporting MBR "stuff" with GPT. A hybrid MBR+GPT would fix this and would be necessary to boot (for

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/12/24 5:04 PM, Vojtech Trefny wrote: The default we have in blivet actually applies only to systems installed with Anaconda so this would not be true for many ARM systems. The images used with arm-image-installer are different. While it is mentioned under scope the title of the change pro

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-13 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Let me preface by saying that I don't like the entire idea of provenpackagers and feel that that role should belong to a SIG (either a relevant SIG to the package, *or* some "package ems" SIG. On 12/14/24 2:33 AM, Josh Stone wrote: On Tuesday (2024-12-10), the Fedora Engineering Steering Commi

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Switch to EROFS for Live Media (self-contained)

2025-01-22 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Hi Neal (and Dusty), On 1/15/25 11:53 PM, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: EROFS is considerably more actively developed than SquashFS, and offers more modern file system features that can be utilized in the future. Reading some through some of the thread it seems the main motivation is

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Switch to JXL format for Default Wallpaper (self-contained)

2025-02-25 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 2/24/25 11:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well, that's not really true, is it? This has already been done for > F42. Why are things happening in this order? It seems some variants have already implemented this change, the change itself is listed as targeting "Fedora 42" on the wiki page.

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Switch to JXL format for Default Wallpaper (self-contained)

2025-03-02 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Huh? Everything that actually DECREASES the size of the distribution without removing functionality is obviously a good thing. Even more so if we are talking about megabytes, not just kilobytes. It is a good thing. In this case it's a time/space tradeoff (spend some more compute on login to sho

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-08 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Fri, Mar 7, 2025, at 9:56 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > With all this in mind, the big question is: When and how is it the > right time to officially bring up Konflux in the Fedora community > context? When it can be used (tested) by Fedora contributors as part of their normal workflows. I do

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-08 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, at 8:50 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 12:56:21PM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote: >> >> A few weeks back I started a discussion about accidental secrets, >> using Konflux as an example.  Now that FOSDEM has come and gone, I’d >> like to take the topic fur

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-09 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Sun, Mar 9, 2025, at 9:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well, you don't need to deploy it for yourself, really. There is a > public test Fedora deployment where you can play with it: > > https://github.com/konflux-ci/community/blob/main/sigs/fedora/cluster.md I know you're probably not the righ

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Package builds are expected to be reproducible (system-wide)

2025-03-20 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, at 9:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Can we have this run as part of the post-build gating tests, so > that we have a single place to look for test results, along with > the option for maintainers to waive reproducibility issues ? > > I'm pretty unethusiastic about dealing

what about machine-id's in /boot?

2025-03-19 Thread Simon de Vlieger
G'day, In Fedora we use the `machine-id` in a few places in `/boot`. For example it is part of the rescue kernel name and the BLS files. This is (from what I understand) because we want to let our `/boot` (XBOOTLDR) partition be used by multiple installations if required. Please correct me if I

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Package builds are expected to be reproducible (system-wide)

2025-03-20 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, at 3:27 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > Rebuilderd isn't much of a build system but more an orchestrator, it > scans a Fedora repo's metadata for new packages and queue's them up for > building. You could also listen to the appropriate channel(s) in fedmsg, that way you wou