Re: Docker base image naming for non-x86_64

2015-07-06 Thread Jon
gt; -AdamM > > > > [0] - > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2015-June/009526.html > > > > > -- > Regards, > Pradipta > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Jon
it in the compose) * Suggest: no (let them be explicitly specified in the compose if they are of high value for that spin or variant, ignore them otherwise) Seems like the package-set for a variant or spin will become more explicit. Which is not bad, but needs to be tested! Besides that, I'd like to see how comps.xml handles these new relationships. Thanks! -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Hosting End-Of-Life Fedora Base images?

2015-07-21 Thread Jon
ntOS with EPEL, SCLs, and/or other repos depending > on what they need.​ > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Fedora Ring 0 definition

2015-09-15 Thread Jon
goal in of itself. This seems like the OS being the goal, not minimization. Though keeping things small should not be ignored, it's a nice to have thing. However, If folks get hung-up on semantics I've no problem accommodating their concept of ring0 == minimal. Though it's kinda bikeshed... -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: /media -> /run/media???

2014-08-13 Thread Jon
hoose to mount media in an insecure (world accessible) way? [1] http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html [2] http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs.html [3] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin

Re: /media -> /run/media???

2014-08-16 Thread Jon
nk I can get any traction getting that default reset at this point? Unlikely. [1] http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs.html#runRuntimeVariableData -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: No more deltarpms by default

2014-10-17 Thread Jon
eded to > keep it in the cache). > export XZ_OPT=T0 If that were enabled in the environment the XZ compression phase would be significantly faster. -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/deve

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 20 March 2015 14:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2015-03-20 Thread Jon
My regrets. I'm in transit and may be late at best or miss the meeting. On Mar 19, 2015 7:37 AM, "Harald Hoyer" wrote: > THIS TIME at 14:00 UTC because of US summer time. > > Agenda: > - Interview candidates for new memberships > - Optionally accept new members > - Open Floor > > Please add it

Re: Non-responsive Maintainer - itamarjp

2015-04-29 Thread Jon
ps://www.facebook.com/itamarjp > > [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632537 > > Thanks. > > --Eric > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://

Re: Fedora on Android

2015-05-13 Thread Jon
rg/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct You can extract the Fedora armhfp bits onto Android, and then chroot. Similar setup to how Busybox works on Android, but much more heavy weight. -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@l

Re: The F20 Network Bridge is Failing down!

2014-02-14 Thread Jon
interface appears to not be added to the bridge interface, E.G. 'brctl addif br0 em1'. Will investigate more as time allows, but wanted to confirm the problem with "me too". Thanks, -Jon Disnard fas: parasense irc: masta On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-18 Thread Jon
, spins, or remix. -- -Jon Disnard FAS: parasense IRC: masta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-19 Thread Jon
name across all the product lines. Thanks, -Jon On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Colin Walters wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> >> I think it's perfectly fine to ha

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-23 Thread Jon
t very keen on ideas that make people unhappy to test packages. (positive reinforcement wins) -Jon Disnard fas: parasense irc: masta On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > Let's test this one asap to prevent epoch(if you want): > > https://admin.fedoraprojec

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-01 Thread Jon
g the decision? What were the highest reasons for NOT staying with EXT4? Thanks, -Jon Disnard fas: parasense irc: masta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-03 Thread Jon
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Jon wrote: > >> The inability to shrink or reduce XFS is rather disappointing. I've >> seen a few sarcastic remarks along the lines of (paraphrased): why >> would anyone ever wan

Re: Server Technical Specification: Agenda and First Draft

2014-03-03 Thread Jon
The base wg has been wondering the same for containers, and at this point we may follow this guidance regarding libvirt too. I'll probably advocate this at our next meeting. Thanks On Mar 3, 2014 6:09 AM, "Stephen Gallagher" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/2

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Allwinner sunxi (A10 / A13 / A20) ARM SoC support

2014-03-03 Thread Jon
Does the u-boot piece require a new package or sub package of existing u-boot we already have? Just curious. Suppose I'm asking if the sunxi support is upstream in denx? Looking forward to this feature. :-D Thanks On Mar 3, 2014 8:05 AM, "Jaroslav Reznik" wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Cha

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-03-04 Thread Jon
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Jon wrote: >> >> We no longer release Fedora ARM rootfs tarballs, too hard to educate >> people to do the right thing with ACL's, xattrs, selinux, etc... >> Anyhow, it'

Re: Integrating AIDE to RPM

2014-03-09 Thread Jon
On Mar 9, 2014 11:05 PM, "Philip Prindeville" < philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com> wrote: > > I notice that after having set up AIDE, and then doing an RPM or YUM update of a package, I then get spew about the contents of files related to that update having changed. > > How difficult would it be t

Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-12 Thread Jon
hy the main installer is not working on my HP >> D140 G3's with MCA video controllers. >> >> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch >> >> Hope someone kind person has time to help me. >> >> Regards, >> >>

Re: Retired update still showing in updates-testing

2014-03-13 Thread Jon
fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/newticket > > -- > Mathieu Done! $ koji untag-build --force f19-updates-testing guacamole-client-0.8.3-5.fc19 $ koji untag-build --force f20-updates-testing guacamole-client-0.8.3-5.fc20 -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-20 Thread Jon
architecture. Thanks -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Senior Fedora OS position open

2014-04-02 Thread Jon
oject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 25. Apr 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-05-09 Thread Jon
Regrets. Likely won't be able to attend this meeting today. -Jon On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Apologies for the late agenda, was out of office the last few days and > didn't get to it before today. > > Agenda: > - Follow up / status update merg

Re: Detecting unnecessary build requirements

2014-05-14 Thread Jon
ed to run a test suite, but not any part of build/compilation process. Stuff to think about. Thanks, -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Computational chemistry softwares orphaned in F20

2014-05-18 Thread Jon
0 curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found The maintainer of the mopac7 package should fix the source0, or retire the package. Good luck, -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: koji: page encrypted but downloads not

2014-05-24 Thread Jon
I would imagine a load-balancer or whatever proxy type thing could sit in front of koji to provide ssl/tls offload. I'm not sure we have one, or could even afford one but nice to have. =) -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: Correct way to unpush an update?

2014-05-29 Thread Jon
usly I don't want to push it to stable. Once I get the email that's > it's been successfully unpushed, so I just create a new update with the two > packages that are fine and a new build of the problem package? > > Thanks, > Richard > maybe just untag from whateve

Re: Is redis orphaned?

2014-06-18 Thread Jon
maintainer time to chime in, otherwise make it happen after reasonable time-out. -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Proposal: time to set up the fedora-release-{cloud, workstation, server} subpackages

2014-06-18 Thread Jon
> I suppose /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net would also be candidates for > alternatives. > Perhaps, but /etc/issue.* files are things the sysadmin should be managing, so IMHO be left alone. (Perhaps I'm not fully appreciating the implications) -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: DNF: why does it refresh metadata all the time

2014-06-19 Thread Jon
traffic, unless it downloads file lists by default? It's arguable if file lists should be pre-fetched, to do things like determine what package provides something... I would say no, but bandwidth is cheap. So there really is a benefit, and it mostly leads to continuously update metadata. -- -Jo

Re: DNF: why does it refresh metadata all the time

2014-06-19 Thread Jon
> and BTW i am not playing around that much on my Rawhide VM but had > *two times* today by type "dnf whatever" the "there is already an > instance, wating for PID..." nonsense caused by the background > metadata refresh > > do you *really* think that's a good user-expierience? > No, that is unfor

[Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-06-20) meeting minutes and logs

2014-06-20 Thread Jon
) --- * masta (24) * zodbot (5) * dgilmore (5) * jreznik_q10 (4) * danofsatx-work (3) -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: repodata - xz

2014-06-20 Thread Jon
s and > performance of the delta repodata, which is currently lacking. > Rather than listen to a dandified hullabaloo. :) I think it would be great to XZ all the things. For now createrepo still defaults to something else, not XZ. -Jon -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: repodata - xz

2014-06-21 Thread Jon
qlite files, dnf uses the .xml.gz files > Would it be too much trouble to use the sqlite data in DNF? I suppose it would be a step backwards to have our primary (future) tool using gzip metadata. -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: repodata - xz

2014-06-22 Thread Jon
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:26 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Tim Lauridsen > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jon wrote: >>> >>> Would it be too much trouble to use the sqlite data in DNF? >>> I suppose it would be

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-06-27 Thread Jon
suppose in a way this goes back to the flame fest about the package updater knowing about network conditions. * With great network conditions, downloading full rpm might be optimal to the deltas. * With poor network conditions, deltas might be nice, but perhaps not with low end computer. -Jon

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-06-27 Thread Jon
default option is listed, commented... but listed in the config. Easy to find, and fix. -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: delta rpms - can we turn them off

2014-06-29 Thread Jon
use DRPMs to suck slightly less. At that future time we can reevaluate if we rewards are worth the aggravations. -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Koji] Re: [Koji] #333: no login button in web interface

2016-07-22 Thread Jon
any sort with the cli. There doesn't seem to be any separate > documentation. > -- You can still use the web ui to see "scratch = True" for any given scratch build. > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/l

Re: Redefinition of the primary and secondary architectures

2016-08-04 Thread Jon
h "Soon!" instead of any approximate date. Setting up a number of m400 aarch64 nodes to provide ARMv7 virtual builders is pretty cool. So I certainly appreciate infra taking their time to get it right. :-) -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: glibc subpackage changes

2016-08-11 Thread Jon
t on rhel7 and fedora24 and see if the correct metadata is > there and then again with createrepo_c. > > kevin > > > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: /sbin/nologin in /etc/shells

2016-10-03 Thread Jon
etically possible to pre-load adversarial things, right? I have no idea if bash these days is static or otherwise, so if you know please chime in? Regardless, I am unable to think of any good reason to oppose Toby Goodwin's proposal around removing the nologin shell from /etc/shells. His reasoning seems solid. -Jon Disnard ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: mp3 encoding now ok

2017-05-03 Thread Jon
From the source: """ On April 23, 2017, Technicolor's mp3 licensing program for certain mp3 related patents and software of Technicolor and Fraunhofer IIS has been terminated. """ https://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/en/ff/amm/prod/audiocodec/audiocodecs/mp3.html --

Re: mp3 encoding now ok

2017-05-03 Thread Jon
Normally Spot would revel these kind of topics. Where are you Spot? Have you run this topic through RH legal? Presumably one does not need legal sign-off when patents legally expire, but this topic is significant. We can now package mp3 encoding software. That is a big thing. --Jon On Wed

Re: OpenH264 in Fedora

2013-11-02 Thread Jon
Do the codes only apply to WebRTC consumers, or can these be used in other context? For example Gnome has ctrl+alt+shift+R to screen-cast, which saves in webM format. Could that switch to whatever h.264 format with Cisco bits? Maybe get the lawyers to look at this? -Jon Disnard irc: masta fas

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-05 Thread Jon
ave their own ideas for how frequently they output. So base WG would need to be the lowest common denominator in that way. Obviouly rel-eng and qa need to represent for this topic. :-) Thanks, -Jon Disnard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: hardlink command

2013-11-10 Thread Jon
In my opinion the -c option is the most rational use of hardlink, except where the files are empty. In the later case touch can be used align the timestamps before you decide to combine the inode. $ touch -r test1 test2 Regards, -Jon Disnard On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Brendan Jones

Re: [Base] Proposal for buildrequires cleanup janitorial initiative

2013-12-20 Thread Jon
aproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- -Jon -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2014-01-06 Thread Jon
ommers > A flexible client side mail filtering utility for IMAP servers > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/imapfilter I have taken ownership of rdesktop. Thanks -Jon Disnard fas:parasense irc: masta [snip] -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Jon
ntains stuff that Fedora cannot. Say for example, my chromebook remixes in F19... those broke with Fedora principles by using evil vendor tree kernels. So in my thinking that is what a remix is for. but spins 100% stay with the Fedora way of things, our four foundations or whatever. In my opinion the

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Jon
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:48 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: >> On 29 January 2014 15:49, inode0 wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Jon wrote: >>> > Putting on my rel-eng hat I can say that any spin

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: Steven Pritchard (steve)

2014-01-30 Thread Jon
st with the bug link, indicating all reasonable efforts to contact the maintainer have failed and that they wish to take over the package. In your case it's been years now waiting can you wait one more week to complete step five? NOTE: I'm not in FESCo, just my two cents... [1] htt

Re: How do I remove my bugzilla.redhat account?

2014-02-02 Thread Jon
I don't believe mere mortals posses the capability to remove a Bugzilla account once established. The administrator might be able. I guess you could change the email associated with your username in BZ to some bogus address, effectively disabling the account. good luck, -Jon Disnard O

Re: Adjust wiki for ARM BeagleBone Black

2014-02-07 Thread Jon
enu system on our ISO images, etc. No problem, the edit is probably fine until we have the time to go through the site and mass edit for the stuff. Thanks Marcelo. -Jon Disnard FAS: parasense IRC: masta On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > That's not necessary ab

test to the new address

2010-01-10 Thread Jon Stanley
Sorry for the noise. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

second test to old address

2010-01-10 Thread Jon Stanley
Sorry for the noise again. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: berlios.de compromised since 2005

2010-01-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
Seth Vidal wrote: > Hi folks, > This lwn article reports that berlios.de has been compromised for a long, > long time. > > http://lwn.net/Articles/369633/ > > So I compiled a little list of pkgs that need a look: > > http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/berlios-pkg-owners-list.txt > > > Here is

Re: Orphaning some packages

2010-01-19 Thread Jon Ciesla
Henrique Junior wrote: > Hello folks, > Due to an increasing lack of time I'm leaving my packages orphaned. > Even if I want, I will not be able to devote the attention they deserve. > I would like to thank all the kind help I received over time in the > task of maintaining these packages. > bkch

Re: [RFC PATCH] use sulogin in single-user mode

2010-01-21 Thread Jon Ciesla
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 21 January 2010 at 18:21, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> We have an existing bug where if you're in single-user mode, and >> SELinux is active, various commands don't print to the console. >> The root of this is the single-user shell isn't runnin

Re: My git security experiences

2010-01-21 Thread Jon Stanley
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:43 PM, David Woodhouse wrote: > Did we grant _any_ exceptions? :) Yes, firefox, thunderbird, and xulrunner due to trademark issues, -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-01-28 Thread Jon Ciesla
Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:01:25AM +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: >> >>> How can I take jna-posix? I need it for one of my projects but I don't see a >>> way to take it in pkgdb. I'm speaking for the deve

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-03 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/02/2010 09:58 PM, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/8/3 Jon Ciesla: >>> Also I think that with >>> wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has been merged >>> into mainline. So wouldn't it be better to concentrate on wordpress 3? >>> >>

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/03/2010 01:08 PM, Conan Kudo (???) wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Jon Ciesla <mailto:l...@jcomserv.net>> wrote: On 08/02/2010 09:58 PM, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/8/3 Jon Cieslamailto:l...@jcomserv.net>>: >>> Also I think that with &

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/04/2010 02:43 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: > On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:45PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>>>> Also I think that with >>>>> wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has been merged >>>>> into mainline. So wou

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/04/2010 08:59 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >On 08/04/2010 02:43 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:45PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>>>>> Also I think that with >>>>>> wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has bee

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/04/2010 09:03 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >On 08/04/2010 08:59 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> On 08/04/2010 02:43 AM, Adrian Reber wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 12:20:45PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>>>>>> Also I think that with >>>>>

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-09 Thread Jon Stanley
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > send an email to: ad...@fedoraproject.org > Subject: BFO > > The right people will get back to you. Simply because one of the people that tends BFO is in sysadmin-main (the people who receive ad...@fp.o) does not make it a proper support mec

Re: Orphaning all my packages

2010-08-11 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/11/2010 12:19 PM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 11/08/2010 18:32, Christopher Stone a écrit : >> Im no longer maintaining all my packages >> >> Do whatever you need to do to orphan them or open them up. >> >> Thanks >> >> Bye. > The Full list: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/package

Re: Orphaning all my packages

2010-08-11 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/11/2010 01:23 PM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 11/08/2010 19:28, Jon Ciesla a écrit : > >>> php-Smarty >> I'll take php-Smarty. > All ownership taken, except this one. > > + Taken. -J -- - in your fear, speak only peace in your fear, seek only love -d.

Re: Orphaning all my packages

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/12/2010 02:25 AM, Jan Kaluza wrote: > On Thursday, August 12, 2010 04:19:25 am Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 08/12/2010 03:34 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Mike McGrath wrote: Luckily Remi got a list: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-August/140708.html >>> Unfo

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/12/2010 01:39 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >>> "BN" == Bill Nottingham writes: >> BN> I can't help but note that the slips have become more frequent as we >> BN> started to actually *have* release criteria to test against. We >> BN> di

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/12/2010 01:51 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "MM" == Mike McGrath writes: > MM> Possibly also stop changing earlier? > > Not necessarily. We should certainly try to get the earth shattering > changes done as early as possible (i.e. soon after branch) but I > recognize that there

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/12/2010 02:14 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > On 08/12/2010 03:08 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>On 08/12/2010 01:39 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>> "BN" == Bill Nott

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/12/2010 02:22 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said: >> I disagree that a clockwork release schedule is required for quality, or >> even perceived quality. If that's the sort of metric being looked at, >> the user is probably best s

Re: Orphaning all my packages

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 05:31 AM, Christof Damian wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:50, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) > wrote: >> I add himself as co-maintainer of php-pecl-xdebug. >> And If you want, can help with some more packages. Please say, if you want. >> Primarily it may be: php-pear-Str

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 10:47 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> No. No SIG's have any authority whatsoever over individual package >> maintainers outside the packages the team maintains. No one needs to >> "comply" with your requirements. > That's exactly Fedora's organizational problem.

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 12:05 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jon Ciesla wrote: >> My understanding of the SIG concept was that they were groups of people >> who were self-organizing around a particular theme to further that theme >> in Fedora, i.e. Games, Live Upgrade, KDE, etc. > Ri

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 12:23 PM, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > On Friday, August 13, 2010, 1:05:16 PM, Kevin wrote: >> Jon Ciesla wrote: >>> My understanding of the SIG concept was that they were groups of people >>> who were self-organizing around a particular theme to further th

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 12:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> The current approach of trying to force maintainers to accept patches >> simply does not work. > The only reason it doesn't work is that our organizational structure is not > built to make this work. > > Kevin Kofler

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 01:10 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Al Dunsmuir wrote: >> The FireFox maintainer might well be viewed as best qualified to >> determine which (if any) distribution-specific patches they want to >> support over the life of the package. If you say no, then put that >> maintai

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/13/2010 01:23 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > Doing so would have changed behavior and broken software that relied upon > that behavior. Sounds like a great way to run the distro > With that attitude, how would we ever change gcc versions in a stable release? ;) -J > "Kevin Kofler"

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-16 Thread Jon Masters
doesn't mind a year of overall updates, something - just something - suggests to me that this might, not, quite be true...I'd love it if we'd actually ask our users what they want. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-16 Thread Jon Masters
ash, it's like "oh man, look that Linux thing *really* sucks now, I can't even use Facebook! I could live with no MP3s, but not Facebook! Next!" Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: is swf open format

2010-08-16 Thread Jon Masters
to get a lot of Java/Mono stuff into Fedora. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Jon Masters
t a la app stores for phones, etc. Then you'd have a by-type browseable list of apps with logos and could use the yum app bits to install them. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Jon Masters
db of tags and > ranking info that yum can use if the info is in the repodata. I didn't realize it was already pretty fancy since I last really looked. Wouldn't take much effort to do browseable per-type "productivity", etc. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Masters
need to give up using anything non-open, so unfortunately will probably not be able to post here due to the entire chain of devices between you and the outside not being open. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Masters
freeze), F-15 is doable. > > Test what? That no MTA is present? > > I'd say we should stop arguing forever and just do it. What's the benefit of having no default MTA at all? Is it that Desktop users don't care about MTAs being installed? what abo

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Masters
noys me with popups that I can't permanently disable. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 08/23/2010 02:21 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Jon Masters wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >>>> pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: >>>&

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 20:37 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > > > What's the benefit of having no default MTA at all? Is it that Desktop > > users don't care about MTAs being installed? what about those o

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
ut today it's killing the MTA, tomorrow it's removing something else that's useful on the server side of things. I want to see that trend stop and reverse. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > > > > > My previous objection was based on the precedent it sets. I don't want a > > "Desktop" distribution in Fedora. I want a server-usa

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
anks Mike (and Eric), for saying what many of us are also thinking. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd acceptance, packaging guidelines (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
a few people. You can throw it away, but you shouldn't do that in F-14, even if it means compatibility code, like the kind Microsoft probably hated writing as they killed off AUTOEXEC.BAT :) Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
e first person who mentions snmptrap events gets slapped. :) Well, I use SNMP for power control, etc. but even I am not anal enough to use it at home for logging. Jon. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
every system I have (I dunno about you) also uses KVM with various bridging setups that "just" work the moment you aren't using NM. That's not to say NM won't work for all cases eventually. It's just another example of how typical (laptop) Desktop use is not the o

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 07:23 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Jon Masters wrote: > > I have an MTA installed because I expect to get emailed logs, and root@ > > does go somewhere. Now, there are a couple of things I should admit: > > >

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