Re: Mock needs more space

2020-11-20 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Friday, November 20, 2020 2:42:08 AM CET Brandon Nielsen wrote: > I'm attempting an armhfp build with mock and it insists it needs "At > least 243MB more space needed on the / filesystem." This seems to be a bug in RPM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1895363 Work-around is to dis

Re: Fedora 33 in GCP

2020-11-20 Thread Ondrej Budai
pá 20. 11. 2020 v 1:43 odesílatel Dusty Mabe napsal: > We have published an image into GCP for Fedora 33 (see [1]). > > The details are: > > image project: fedora-cloud > image name:fedora-cloud-base-gcp-33-1-2-x86-64 > > We're hoping to get this information added to the website at some point

Re: Mock needs more space

2020-11-20 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 20 November 2020 at 09:03, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Friday, November 20, 2020 2:42:08 AM CET Brandon Nielsen wrote: > > I'm attempting an armhfp build with mock and it insists it needs "At > > least 243MB more space needed on the / filesystem." > > This seems to be a bug in RPM: > htt

Fedora-Cloud-32-20201120.0 compose check report

2020-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20201119.0): ID: 726232 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 20 November 2020 at 08:41, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 20.11.2020 02:06, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > I know the difference and yes, you're able to participate without > > registration in that room. > > There are free levels of privacy settings: > 1. join via invit

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 19.11.20 um 23:42 schrieb Adam Williamson: The chat history persistence - and seamless use across devices - is a huge advantage. The other advantage is that you can sign up for and use this system simply and entirely in a web browser, a process people are comfortable with. It is similar to sys

own matrix server

2020-11-20 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, But this server should support Matrix federation feature. We shouldn't force users to use only this server in order to be able to participate in discussions. I already have my own Matrix server. Which one do you use? Any problems setting it up? Best regards, Marius __

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 19.11.20 um 21:13 schrieb José Abílio Matos: On Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54:52 PM WET Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I'm not sure that message editing is a feature. In fairness as long as the grace period is fixed and small that is not a bad thing. E.g it allows you to fix lots of cas

Fedora-Cloud-31-20201120.0 compose check report

2020-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64), 7/7 (aarch64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: own matrix server

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 11:22, Marius Schwarz wrote: Which one do you use? Synapse. Any problems setting it up? No. It just works. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 10:46, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: How does a server become federated? You need to open port 8448/tcp and add an SRV DNS record: _matrix._tcp.example.org. 3600 IN SRV 10 0 8448 example.org. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 02:58, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 19.11.2020 23:13, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Some packagers in Fedora do not have time to maintain the build > dependencies > > for the packages that they are actually interested in and have time to

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 13:58, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: We have a lot of packages who are only maintained in the sense that it was orphaned and someone realized that some other package needed it. Yes there are some packages which have not had an update because the upstream feels the package is done..

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 23:14 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:06:46AM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > > > No, you don't. I've just joined a random room without any kind of > > > > registration. Try it yourself if you don't believe me: > > > > https://app.

Re: systemd-resolved in a container

2020-11-20 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 11/19/20 03:06, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On ke, 18 marras 2020, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: Hi, I realized my fedora-based containers have an /etc/resolv.conf which claims it is managed by resolved, and nsswitch.conf has "res

Fedora 31 End Of Life

2020-11-20 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hello all, Fedora 31 will go end of life for updates and support on 24th of November 2020. No further updates, including security updates, will be available for Fedora 31 after the said date. All the updates of Fedora 31 being pushed to stable will be stopped as well. Fedora 32 will continue to r

Re: Mock needs more space

2020-11-20 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 11/20/20 2:03 AM, Pavel Raiskup wrote: On Friday, November 20, 2020 2:42:08 AM CET Brandon Nielsen wrote: I'm attempting an armhfp build with mock and it insists it needs "At least 243MB more space needed on the / filesystem." This seems to be a bug in RPM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 12:03:27AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > I suspect that these packages are maintained only to the point where they > can build (and thus be used as buildreqs) but their maintainer also doesn't > want them to be updated without making sure that the update will not break > t

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 08:44:32AM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > >In this case for our server, we would use FAS single-sign-on for > >accounts. > But this server should support Matrix federation feature. We > shouldn't force users to use only this server in order to be able to > particip

Fedora 34 Change: GNU Toolchain update (gcc 11, glibc 2.33) (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchain == Summary == Switch the Fedora 33 GNU Toolchain to gcc 11, binutils 2.35, and glibc 2.33. The binutils 2.35 change is being tracked here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BINUTILS235 The gcc 11 and glibc 2.33 change will be tracked in th

Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire == Summary == This change proposal is to route all audio from PulseAudio and JACK to the PipeWire Audio daemon by default. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Wtaymans| Wim Taymans]] * Email: wim.taym...@gmail.com == Detailed Description == Currentl

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GNU Toolchain update (gcc 11, glibc 2.33) (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 11:26 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNUToolchain > > == Summary == > Switch the Fedora 33 GNU Toolchain to gcc 11, binutils 2.35, and glibc 2.33. Hi Ben, shouldn't this ^^ be Fedora 34 ? > The binutils 2.35 change is being tracked here: >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 17:26, Ben Cotton wrote: This change proposal is to route all audio from PulseAudio and JACK to the PipeWire Audio daemon by default. IMO, too early. PipeWire is too unstable yet. I suggest postpone this proposal to Fedora 35. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.o

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 17:18, Matthew Miller wrote: Yes, I don't see why not. As I understand it, if your server becomes a source of spam or whatever, we can block it. But I trust that it won't. Public registration is disabled on it. Only me and my friends can use it. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vi

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 11:26 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire > > == Summary == > This change proposal is to route all audio from PulseAudio and JACK to > the PipeWire Audio > daemon by default. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:Wtaymans| Wim Taymans

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:34:28 AM MST Radka Gustavsson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 6:11 PM Richard W.M. Jones > > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:22:26PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > [I posted to the Fedora Council list, but reposting here for wider > > > distribution.]

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:17:15 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > The move to having our own Matrix server is being driven by Fedora > subcommunities already wanting to move primacy from IRC to Matrix. > Many of our adjunct upstreams have done so (Mozilla, KDE, etc.) or are > in the process of doi

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 11:19 +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 19.11.20 um 23:42 schrieb Adam Williamson: > > The chat history persistence - and seamless use across devices - is a > > huge advantage. The other advantage is that you can sign up for and use > > this system simply and entirely in a web

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 20.11.2020 17:59, John M. Harris Jr wrote: Given that the use of proprietary software, where a superior Free alternative exists, is against the Four Foundations, it's questionable that they'd be Discord users. Discord also has the worst terms of service I've ever seen. -- Sincerely, Vital

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 08:32 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 23:14 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:06:46AM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > wrote: > > > > > No, you don't. I've just joined a random room without any kind of > > > > > registration

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 09:14 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 08:32 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 23:14 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:06:46AM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > > wrote: > > > > > > No, you don't. I've

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:16:03AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 12:03:27AM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > I suspect that these packages are maintained only to the point where they > > can build (and thus be used as buildreqs) but their maintainer also doesn't > > want t

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:27:08AM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 19.11.20 um 21:13 schrieb José Abílio Matos: > > > > On Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54:52 PM WET Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure that message editing is a feature. > > > > > > In fairness as long as the grac

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Radka Gustavsson
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 6:03 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:17:15 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > The move to having our own Matrix server is being driven by Fedora > > subcommunities already wanting to move primacy from IRC to Matrix. > > Many of our adjunct upstrea

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 17:36 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 20.11.2020 17:26, Ben Cotton wrote: > > This change proposal is to route all audio from PulseAudio and JACK to > > the PipeWire Audio daemon by default. > > IMO, too early. PipeWire is too unstable yet. I suggest postpone this

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
On 11/20/20 8:36 AM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: IMO, too early. PipeWire is too unstable yet. I suggest postpone this proposal to Fedora 35. The person who wrote the change proposal is the lead developer of Pipewire. He believes it is stable enough (or will be) by the time F34 branches.

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Radka Gustavsson
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 7:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:27:08AM +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Am 19.11.20 um 21:13 schrieb José Abílio Matos: > > > > > > On Thursday, November 19, 2020 5:54:52 PM WET Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not sure that message edit

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:00 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > IMHO editing is fine, as long as it notes it was edited and provides you > a way to see what was changed. I have no idea how the matrix editing > works however. > As I recall, it puts a small "(edited)" notice at the end of the line to let you

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Dominique Martinet
Ben Cotton wrote on Fri, Nov 20, 2020: > == How To Test == > This change needs to be tested on as many different audio cards as > possible. The same test plan applies here as with PulseAudio. > > To test, one needs to install the pipewire-pulse library (which > removes the pulseaudio package). To

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GNU Toolchain update (gcc 11, glibc 2.33) (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Friday, November 20, 2020 4:26:53 PM WET Ben Cotton wrote: > == Release Notes == > The GNU Compiler Collection version 11 will be released shortly. See > https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-11/changes.html. > > The GNU C Library version 2.32 will be released at the beginning of > August 2020. The current N

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 11/20/20 1:28 PM, Dominique Martinet wrote: Ben Cotton wrote on Fri, Nov 20, 2020: == How To Test == This change needs to be tested on as many different audio cards as possible. The same test plan applies here as with PulseAudio. To test, one needs to install the pipewire-pulse library (whic

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, November 20, 2020 11:52:46 AM MST Radka Gustavsson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 6:03 PM John M. Harris Jr > > wrote: > > On Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:17:15 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > > The move to having our own Matrix server is being driven by Fedora > > > subcommunities al

Re: video meeting to discuss Matrix/Element and IRC

2020-11-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 19/11/2020 19:17, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:09 PM Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> >> >> On 19/11/2020 18:55, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:50:21PM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 19.11.2020 18:34, Radka Gustavsson wrote: > Rich, IRC

Re: libcap-ng update coming to rawhide

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Grubb
On Thursday, November 19, 2020 8:32:38 PM EST Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 14:32 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:45:41 PM EST Steve Grubb wrote: > > The new libcap-ng has been built into rawhide. > > ...and it does break gnome-keyring, and it also b

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Naheem Zaffar
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 19:47, Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 11/20/20 1:28 PM, Dominique Martinet wrote: > > Ben Cotton wrote on Fri, Nov 20, 2020: > l the pipewire-pulse library (which > >> removes the pulseaudio package). > > > > Took me some time to figure out how to test: > > [Snip] > > Me too.

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Route all Audio to PipeWire (System-Wide Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 11/20/20 4:31 PM, Naheem Zaffar wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 19:47, Brandon Nielsen > wrote: On 11/20/20 1:28 PM, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote on Fri, Nov 20, 2020: l the pipewire-pulse library (which >> removes the pulseaudio pa

Re: Fedora 34 Change proposal: Remove and deprecate nscd in favour of sssd and systemd-resolved (Self-Contained Change)

2020-11-20 Thread Petr Menšík
On 11/17/20 10:12 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 16.11.20 21:48, Petr Menšík (pemen...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> But it does not have to learn everything about a server, because it >> switched the active one. If it has to, try to find way to store server >> instance features per server IP,

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2020-11-23 Fedora QA Meeting

2020-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have anything urgent this week. blockerbugs is a hot topic of discussion right now, but I don't think we need to discuss it in a meeting, on list and on tickets is working fine. If you're aware of anything important we have to dis

Fedora-Cloud-33-20201121.0 compose check report

2020-11-20 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20201120.0): ID: 726924 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op