On 07/15/2013 10:55 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 15.07.13 14:18, Paul Wouters (pwout...@redhat.com) wrote:
Hi,
For daemons, it happens that people (or puppet/ansible) makes a config
change that causes the config file to not load and be invalid. When
restarting the service, it will st
On 07/16/2013 06:01 PM, Till Maas wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:24:17PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Change Packaging Guidelines to discourage
requires into /bin and /sbin =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoBinDeps
== Scope ==
Proposal owners: None
On 07/17/2013 12:58 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
that monitor /var/log/messages
We honestly cant keep progress and cleanup in the distribution back out
of fear of breaking some third party programs.
JBG
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:47:39PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 21:10, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > Possibly related question: Is there a way to start a daemon with
> > different options on restart than on start, something like
> > ExecRestart?
>
> No. A
commit 4453519cdf03343ffb7f915fa69cd396f9f7f779
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:33:48PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> On 07/16/2013 07:16 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
>> >For instance, it seems to be missing both the stack protector and
>> >llvmpipe issues.
>>
>> Finishing scope of stack p
On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
> /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with
> it.
>
That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way".
Many people have raised concerns not only ab
= Proposed Self Contained Change: ACPICA Tools Update =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AcpicaTools
Change owner(s): Al Stone
For developers working with the ACPI subsystem, there are tools available from
the reference implementation at http://www.acpica.org. These tools have been
rest
= Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
Provisioning =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
Change owner(s): David Lehman
LVM has introduced thin provisioning technology, which provides greatly
improved snapshot functionality i
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Rollback
Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher , Colin Walters
With the advent of thinly-provisioned LVM pools, it has become possible for us
to implement full-system LVM snapshotting for recordi
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in
favor of ntpd =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ntpdate
Change owner(s): Michael Harris
ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize
systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documen
The latest kernel may have problem which will affect the CPU usage.
My machine with latest kernel, cpu usage 100% all the time, gnome she'll
conflicts with chrome. After switching to tty2 and kill -9 gnome*, I can
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= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache OpenOffice =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheOpenOffice
Change owner(s): Andrea Pescetti
Add Apache OpenOffice [1], the free productivity suite, to Fedora.
== Detailed description ==
Apache OpenOffice (formerly OpenOffice.org) is an extre
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Sugar 0.100 (1.0) =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Sugar-0.100
Change owner(s): Peter Robinson
Update Sugar to the new upstream 0.100 (1.0) release.
== Detailed description ==
We want to provide the new version of the Sugar desktop environment as well a
On 07/16/2013 11:24 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 16.07.13 11:12, Kaleb KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote:
I need glusterd to start before any _netdev mounts (NFS or
glusterfs) take place.
reading the system.special man page it talks about ...pulling in
network-online.target and or
On 07/17/2013 07:47 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
But a user who tried that says the "local" nfs mount(s) in his
/etc/fstab still failed. I tried it as well with an f19 guest vm and got
the same results, namely that the nfs mount(s) failed to mount at boot.
Answering my own question. I did some
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:21:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 12:58 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> >You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> >that monitor /var/log/messages
>
> We honestly cant keep progress and cleanup in the distribution back
> ou
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:32:15AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> libguestfs-tools-c-1:1.23.8-5.fc20.x86_64,/bin/vi
Fixed (in git). What I don't understand is why this didn't give a
broken dependency? I must have installed this package hundreds of
times on dozens of systems, and I've never seen
> > Is there still a plan to do builds of the normal install iso,
> > analagous to the nightly composes for live images?
>
> Yep. Dennis was going to look into doing some kind of weekly dvd iso
> compose.
I'm not sure DVD is worthwhile, and it will add quite some extra bandwidth for
mirrors.
Da
On 07/17/2013 12:05 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:21:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 12:58 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
that monitor /var/log/messages
We honestly cant keep progress
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '-MM-DD HH:MM UTC'
Links to all tickets belo
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On 06/13/2013 03:23 PM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> AFAIK, ld-linux.so prevents from this by reusing the first libperl.so
addreses. However I have no idea if this is true for dlopen(). Do we get
two interpreters with two sets of global variables?
I'm not sure if it's good—it tends to cause random cras
On 07/15/2013 11:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 09:26 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/w
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On 07/17/2013 02:14 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:32:15AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
libguestfs-tools-c-1:1.23.8-5.fc20.x86_64,/bin/vi
Fixed (in git). What I don't understand is why this didn't give a
broken dependency? I must have installed this package hundreds
commit 83f23af3ac567d0b77f55d73732c6286aecd3499
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
>> As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
>
>> /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with
>
>> it.
>
>>
>
>
>
> That terribly so
On 07/17/2013 12:36 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
You guys aren't administrators who are dealing with
these problems every day. You don't feel the pain
you create for other people.
Well my job description for the last 10 years and my pay check says
otherwise so I dont know what you are getting at.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985064
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> Humm...
>
> I'm not sure how this is happening. F17 should contain
> perl-HTML-Form-6.00-6.fc17 which provides perl(HTML::Form) = 6.00 and I
> can't understand why yu
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 11:53 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 07/15/2013 09:26 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
>>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>>>
On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wi
commit ca64a9edb09110b42d1efed9fb0f956e2f430949
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On 07/17/2013 02:41 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 12:36 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> You guys aren't administrators who are dealing with
>> these problems every day. You don't feel the pain
>> you create for other people.
>
> Well my job description for the last 10 years
> and
On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
> /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with
> it.
>
That terribly sounds like "my way or t
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
> >On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
> >
> > > /var/log/messages they should simply insta
Once upon a time, Marc Deop i Argemí said:
> On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
> > /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with
> > it.
>
> That terribly sounds like "my way or the hig
On 07/17/2013 02:45 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>> instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
>>> at install time or to their ks snippets.
>>
>> And this too was answered several times already.
>> The machine in question may be already borked.
>> Our support people will need to f
On Wed, 17.07.13 00:08, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > that monitor /var/log/messages
> >
> > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can also
> > install rsyslog.
>
> a) From what command they know they need to install rsyslog if they want
>yum -y w
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 02:45 PM, drago01 wrote:
instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
at install time or to their ks snippets.
>>>
>>> And this too was answered several times already.
>>> The machine in quest
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said:
> ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize
> systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documentation from the NSA Hardening
> Guidelines as well as CIS Hardening documentation recommends disabling the
> use
> of ntpd as a fu
On Wed, 17.07.13 01:53, Billy Crook (billycr...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>
> > Don't tell me that you have not seen people writing multiple platform
> > scripts like this:
> >
> > case $OS)
> > Windows* )
> >some_windows_scripts
> >
On 07/17/2013 03:00 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> On 07/17/2013 02:45 PM, drago01 wrote:
> instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
> at install time or to their ks snippets.
And this too was answered s
On Wed, 17.07.13 07:57, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> Once upon a time, Marc Deop i Argemí said:
> > On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
> > > /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog an
commit cf3947555c5fd274a88c7d2d7a308c442b24d0af
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On 07/17/2013 12:50 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On 07/17/2013 02:41 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 12:36 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
You guys aren't administrators who are dealing with
these problems every day. You don't feel the pain
you create for other people.
Well my job desc
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Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
> On Wed, 17.07.13 07:57, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Marc Deop i Argemí said:
> > > That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way".
> >
> > That is Lennart's standard behavior.
>
> And the thread just went ugly.
>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:07:03AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said:
> > ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize
> > systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documentation from the NSA Hardening
> > Guidelines as well as CIS Harde
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said:
ntpdate is slowly being depricated. STIG enhancements for RHEL 6 penalize
systems that make use of ntpdate. Also documentation from the NSA Hardening
Guidelines as well as CIS Hardening documentation recommends dis
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:14:09PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 17.07.13 07:57, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> > > That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way".
> >
> > That is Lennart's standard behavior.
>
> And the thread just went ugly.
>
> Not sure what the tr
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On 07/17/2013 01:08 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Engineer does not know what version of OS that server runs,
what is installed there and how it is configured.
So it needs to be investigated. Quite a typical situation.
Perhaps for you but for us here on top of the world we dont grant root
access t
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>
> Apache OpenOffice 4.0, due in the last decade of July 2013, is a major
update.
> The two new versions (3.4.0 and 3.4.1) released in 2012 under the Apache
> guidance totalled 60 million downloads so far, not counting mirrors.
>
This should probably be fixed to due at the end of July 2013 or som
Summary of changes:
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On 07/17/2013 03:21 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 01:08 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> Engineer does not know what version of OS that server runs,
>> what is installed there and how it is configured.
>> So it needs to be investigated. Quite a typical situation.
>
> Perhaps for y
Le Mar 16 juillet 2013 13:54, Lennart Poettering a écrit :
> On Tue, 16.07.13 11:49, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net)
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le Lun 15 juillet 2013 20:09, Till Maas a écrit :
>> > Also it is sad that journalctl does not directly accept ISO 8601
>> > time specifications (I c
On Wed, 17.07.13 15:08, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote:
> > How about this idea. Before "No Defualt Syslog", systemd needs to
> > completely replicate all functionality provided by syslog, including
> > /var/log/messages, by default. Syslog emulation would be an option, and if
>
On 07/17/2013 01:21 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
On Wed, 17.07.13 07:57, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
Once upon a time, Marc Deop i Argemí said:
That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way".
That is Lennart's standard behavior.
And the t
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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 08:12:42PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>> There probably is a minimal packageset, though. the kernel, glibc, gcc,
>> and rpm would all be on my list. Given that fesco has a policy about the
>> package depsolver ha
On 07/17/2013 02:56 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
As mentioned before, if people run programs that require
/var/log/mes
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
> > >On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >
> > > > As mentioned before, if people run
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of using ntpdate in
favor of ntpd =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ntpdate
Having just read "man ntpd" for -q -g -x, I see that it is a valid
replacement for using ntpdate on boot. (I
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:08:59PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> Then engineer asks to run "tail /var/log/messages".
> Customer says: "I see
>cannot open ‘/var/log/messages’: No such file or directory
> message".
And this happens every time in, say, Debian. Great, isn't it?
> Engineer asks t
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:30:20PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes?
> Compiling journalctl on UINXy OSes should not be too much of a problem.
> You'd need dbus
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said:
> Additionally, with systems without a realtime clock, like the raspberry
> pi, we have a new problem where we need to obtain the time from an
> external source. That might seem easy, but with DNSSEC, we might not be
> able to resolve pool.ntp.org without first
>>
>> Engineer does not know what version of OS that server runs,
>> what is installed there and how it is configured.
>> So it needs to be investigated. Quite a typical situation.
>
>
> Perhaps for you but for us here on top of the world we dont grant root
access to people that cant event tell whi
On Wed, 17.07.13 14:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
> > at install time or to their ks snippets.
>
> And this too was answered several times already.
> The machine in question may be already borked.
> Our su
On 07/17/2013 03:36 PM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:08:59PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> Then engineer asks to run "tail /var/log/messages".
>> Customer says: "I see
>>cannot open ‘/var/log/messages’: No such file or directory
>> message".
> And this happens every t
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Chris Adams wrote:
Have you tried the -q, -g, and -x options to ntpd?
Yes, see other email. I saw it and provided we allow large clock skew
providing all 3 options, I'm okay with replacing ntpdate.
I have been thinking about how to solve that properly. One idea is to
use
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On 07/17/2013 08:20 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 12:05 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:21:39AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 12:58 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
that m
> I don't understand why you are on a crusade to remove stuff
> which works, even after people conceded to your desire
> to have binary logs.
>
Because that is how progress happens? Of backwards compatibility was held
on forever it would be insane... Eventually things change and as Lennart
pointed
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Alexey I. Froloff wrote:
How would /var/log/messages file help in case of a corrupted
filesystem/disk?
You stand a considerably better chance of reading a text file than a
database when it has partial corruption. Of course if the file, filesystem
or disk is completely tr
commit bb2603d09ed7aec909e1b443aabd40e27154c970
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:40:15PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> >> Then engineer asks to run "tail /var/log/messages".
> >> Customer says: "I see
> >>cannot open ‘/var/log/messages’: No such file or directory
> >> message".
> > And this happens every time in, say, Debian. Great, isn't it?
>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:35:33AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:30:20PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> > > Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes?
> > Compiling journalc
Hi,
here is a new version, it now relies on the existence of a default
syntax plugin (no fallback to strcasecmp), has clarified the need to
reset pointers (and removed) and hopefully improved indentation
https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/346/0001-Ticket-346-version-4-Slow-ldapmodi
On Wed, 17.07.13 07:56, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY (kkeit...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 07:47 AM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> >
> >But a user who tried that says the "local" nfs mount(s) in his
> >/etc/fstab still failed. I tried it as well with an f19 guest vm and got
> >the same results, namely th
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:56:56PM +0100, M A Young wrote:
> > How would /var/log/messages file help in case of a corrupted
> > filesystem/disk?
> You stand a considerably better chance of reading a text file than a
> database when it has partial corruption.
Please, show exact numbers and your cal
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Lennart Poettering wrote:
"cat /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl"
"tail -f /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl -f"
"tail -n100 /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl -n100"
"grep foobar /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl | grep foobar"
This isn't complex. You ca
Lennart Poettering writes:
> [...]
>> How about this idea. Before "No Defualt Syslog", systemd needs to
>> completely replicate all functionality provided by syslog, including
>> /var/log/messages, by default. Syslog emulation would be an option, and if
>> people don't want it, they can still t
On Wed, 17.07.13 11:29, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:47:39PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 16.07.13 21:10, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Possibly related question: Is there a way to start a daemon with
> > > differe
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:37:32PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> Personally I'd love to see other applications make use of journald
> facilities such as httpd and tomcat... Would simplify some of the
> occasionally odd logrotate behaviour for sure...
For httpd, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attac
On 07/17/2013 03:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 17.07.13 14:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
>>> instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
>>> at install time or to their ks snippets.
>>
>> And this too was answered several times already.
>>
a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. I don't see the
feature proposing this be changed.
b. A default installation of Fedora 18/19, has no means of updating the RTC
correctly if it's off by more than 15 minutes; and 60 minutes with newer
kernels. An RTC wrong by more than
On 07/17/2013 03:51 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
>> I don't understand why you are on a crusade to remove stuff
>> which works, even after people conceded to your desire
>> to have binary logs.
>
> Because that is how progress happens?
Progress happens by removing stuff which works?
Interesting...
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On Wednesday 17 July 2013 15:39:23 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 17.07.13 14:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
> > > at install time or to their ks snippets.
> >
> > And this too was answered several
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:43:41PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ntpdate
>
> Change owner(s): Michael Harris
> ntpdate is slowly being depricated in favor of ntpd. DoD STIGs now penalize
> for the use of ntpdate on Red Hat Enterprise systems. I would li
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said:
> That's easiest said then done. It takes a lot of queries before you hit
> pool.ntp.org. And then you have to 1) ensure no one else uses those DNS
> answers and 2) flush the cache when enabling DNSSEC.
Well, it would be an ugly hack, but you could use somethi
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Vagrant =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Vagrant
Change owner(s): Alex Drahon
Provide Vagrant http://www.vagrantup.com/ with the KVM plugin.
== Detailed description ==
Vagrant is an automation tool used to manage development environments using
virtual
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:59:11AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. I don't see the
> feature proposing this be changed.
Also, there is already a replacement for ntpdate, it's in the sntp
package.
> b. A default installation of Fedora 18
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