a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. I don't see the 
feature proposing this be changed.

b. A default installation of Fedora 18/19, has no means of updating the RTC 
correctly if it's off by more than 15 minutes; and 60 minutes with newer 
kernels. An RTC wrong by more than an hour, e.g. two months ago, if I have an 
internet connection chrony sets the system clock to the correct date/time. If I 
don't have an internet connection, I'm relegated to a system time based on the 
wrong RTC, which seems grossly broken to me. 

c. Windows and OS X do not behave this way - almost immediately upon getting 
correct time from an internet source, those OS's update the RTC to the correct 
time.

d. This long bug, 816752, suggests, as a solution, installing ntpdate in order 
to set the RTC. So if ntpdate is being deprecated as part of the proposed 
feature, why is installing and using ntpdate being suggested as a fix for the 
lack of chrony-kernel RTC sync support?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816752#c75

e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than bouncing us 
back to ntpd?

The time situation on Fedora makes me think the left hand and right hand are 
doing different things.


Chris Murphy
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