On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:59:11AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> 
> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19. I don't see the 
> feature proposing this be changed.

Also, there is already a replacement for ntpdate, it's in the sntp
package.

> b. A default installation of Fedora 18/19, has no means of updating the RTC 
> correctly if it's off by more than 15 minutes; and 60 minutes with newer 
> kernels. An RTC wrong by more than an hour, e.g. two months ago, if I have an 
> internet connection chrony sets the system clock to the correct date/time. If 
> I don't have an internet connection, I'm relegated to a system time based on 
> the wrong RTC, which seems grossly broken to me. 

It was fixed in kernel 3.10, which should be in f19 soon.

> d. This long bug, 816752, suggests, as a solution, installing ntpdate in 
> order to set the RTC. So if ntpdate is being deprecated as part of the 
> proposed feature, why is installing and using ntpdate being suggested as a 
> fix for the lack of chrony-kernel RTC sync support?
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816752#c75
> 
> e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than bouncing 
> us back to ntpd?

Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
configuration) let the kernel sync the RTC. 

> The time situation on Fedora makes me think the left hand and right hand are 
> doing different things.

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Miroslav Lichvar
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