Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-03-04 Thread David Kaufmann
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 06:00:55PM +, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > […] > > > The purpose here is to make the Fedora project a more welcoming place to > > people who _do_ find those terms unwelcome. That doesn't mean everyone > > does. It means we want to be welcoming and

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-03-03 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > […] > The purpose here is to make the Fedora project a more welcoming place to > people who _do_ find those terms unwelcome. That doesn't mean everyone > does. It means we want to be welcoming and not jerks. ^ > I'm person

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-03-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 11:36:45AM -0600, Renich Bon Ciric wrote: > I haven't read the whole thread but I cannot believe everybody just > went with it. > > What is the practical purpose of changing master to main? I see no > benefit whatsoever. We're only making this politicized. > > I haven't ch

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-03-02 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
I haven't read the whole thread but I cannot believe everybody just went with it. What is the practical purpose of changing master to main? I see no benefit whatsoever. We're only making this politicized. I haven't checked the tickets but I'd bet my left arm on us not having a single ticket from

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-02-17 Thread Eugene Syromiatnikov
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 08:14:47PM +0100, Pierre - Yves Chibon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 08:00:49PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 17. 02. 21 19:46, Eugene Syromiatnikov wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-02-17 Thread Pierre - Yves Chibon
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 08:00:49PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 17. 02. 21 19:46, Eugene Syromiatnikov wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > > > This Change w

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-02-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 02. 21 19:46, Eugene Syromiatnikov wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main == Summary == This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the default git branch instead of "master". S

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-02-17 Thread Eugene Syromiatnikov
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > == Summary == > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be > manually

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-07 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 10:09 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 12:26:45PM +0100, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > > What's the progress on this change? Is it going to land in one > > week? I > > For src.fedoraproject.org yes. It's planned for next week. > (some pagure.io projects we control

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 12:26:45PM +0100, Tomas Tomecek wrote: > What's the progress on this change? Is it going to land in one week? I For src.fedoraproject.org yes. It's planned for next week. (some pagure.io projects we control should go tomorrow (Phase1)) > just want to be sure that our tooli

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-05 Thread Tomas Tomecek
What's the progress on this change? Is it going to land in one week? I just want to be sure that our tooling is ready and works with this change since we hardcode "fedora-master" in many places. Thanks! Tomas On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:06 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/C

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 05:52:16PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > Yes, it cannot encode everything but it can at least help. Is there any > documentation about the flatpak work in Fedora? The wiki as all the > other information that I find on Google with "flatpak Fedora" only focus > on how to use them,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:21 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:30 PM Christopher > wrote: > > > > Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, surely > > people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" > > I disagree, my opinion is that

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:22 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:30 PM Christopher > wrote: > > > > Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, > surely people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" > > I disagree, my opinion is that main

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:30 PM Christopher wrote: > > Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, surely > people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" I disagree, my opinion is that main is better than master, and master is better than rawhide. One shou

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On 12/14/20 4:29 PM, Christopher wrote: Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, surely people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" for our dist-git branch names for our RPMs, simply because it follows our naming conventions and makes things easier fr

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:41:44PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:03:17PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > I don't think you can make branches completely descripive by themselves, > > > unle

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Mark E. Fuller
Am Montag, dem 14.12.2020 um 11:12 -0500 schrieb Neal Gompa: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Christopher < > ctubb...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, > > surely people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Christopher wrote: > > Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, surely > people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" for our dist-git > branch names for our RPMs, simply because it follows our naming conventions > and

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-14 Thread Christopher
Even if people don't agree that "main" is better for other reasons, surely people can agree that "rawhide" is much better than "master" for our dist-git branch names for our RPMs, simply because it follows our naming conventions and makes things easier from that perspective. The only reason they we

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:01:32PM -0700, stan via devel wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 09:09:46 -0700 > stan wrote: > > Is this really the best use of resources to combat > > that? > ...snip... > > Just an alternative idea. I think it's easy for people to misunderstand what we are trying to do h

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:03:17PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > I don't think you can make branches completely descripive by themselves, > > unless possibly you make them really long. > > > > flatpak_branch_where_stable_fla

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-12 Thread stan via devel
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 09:09:46 -0700 stan wrote: > Is this really the best use of resources to combat > that? What if all the money dedicated to implementing this across the tech industry was dedicated instead to a stem scholarship fund. Students who qualify to a stem program at a certified univer

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-12 Thread stan via devel
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 15:28:57 + Sérgio Basto wrote: > I'm strongly against change master to main , just because master > suggest that is a racist word as master/slave, is like change chess > and play not with black and white pieces but maybe with green and > blue . This change will deprecate a

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-12 Thread Sérgio Basto
I'm strongly against change master to main , just because master suggest that is a racist word as master/slave, is like change chess and play not with black and white pieces but maybe with green and blue . This change will deprecate all I.T. books since Turing machine and it will be just a big a me

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I don't think you can make branches completely descripive by themselves, > unless possibly you make them really long. > > flatpak_branch_where_stable_flatpaks_are_made_from That it is about flatpaks is already described in the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-11 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
On src.fp.o, could we inject a custom message when someone trys to fetch/clone a master branch via pagure-dist-git ? Something like "this branch is deprecated, more info on https://foo.bar"; 20/12/11 08:15(e)an, Pierre-Yves Chibon igorleak idatzi zuen: On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:29:12AM -0800,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 08:15:19AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:29:12AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > > On 12/3/20 4:02 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Git

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-10 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:29:12AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > On 12/3/20 4:02 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > > > This Change wil

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > On 12/3/20 4:02 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > > default git branch

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-10 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:50:46 PM CET Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> * COPR? > > I'll let the COPR folks answer. > > Copr does not expose dist-git to users. I.e. you cannot directly upload to > dist-git. Only via WebUI or copr-cli. So users don't even know the branch > names. We use master bra

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-10 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On 12/3/20 4:02 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main == Summary == This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be manually moved and default git branch for n

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Good morning, 20/12/9 23:24(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen: On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:02:45AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: 20/12/4 20:42(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen: On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12/8/20 11:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Well, I don't want to keep master around in any form... and yeah, I > > realize there's going to be fallout. ;( > > Maybe we can phase it? First, provide the backwards compatible ref, see wh

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:09:44AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > Would be great if we add a deprecation notice (wich could include an EOL for > the symbolic-ref) to git's output while operating on master branch :D I think that would require changes on the git client end? kevin -- > > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:02:45AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > > 20/12/4 20:42(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen: > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibo

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:25:53PM -0500, Stuart D Gathman wrote: > Wouldn't "rawhide" be more consistent with the other branch names? This has been discussed elsewhere in the thread. I think we agreed to add a sym-ref between rawhide and main (ie, either would work). I can get the change updat

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:21:34PM -, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft wrote: > hi, > > I see some pagure.io project are automatically handled by this change > > could teams register their repositories to be migrated automatically? > if so, what's the deadline to ask for our repositories to be included

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Stuart D Gathman
Wouldn't "rawhide" be more consistent with the other branch names? On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main == Summary == This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the default git branch instead of "master". Spec

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
hi, I see some pagure.io project are automatically handled by this change could teams register their repositories to be migrated automatically? if so, what's the deadline to ask for our repositories to be included in this change? ___ devel mailing list

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-09 Thread Merlin Mathesius
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:54 AM Petr Šabata wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:13:13PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šaba

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Petr Šabata
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:13:13PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wr

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Would be great if we add a deprecation notice (wich could include an EOL for the symbolic-ref) to git's output while operating on master branch :D 20/12/3 16:53(e)an, Daniel P. Berrangé igorleak idatzi zuen: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.or

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/12/4 20:42(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen: On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: Since I don't see

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:24:26PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > Daniel P. Berrangé writes: > > Perhaps this is heresy, but we could stop calling our main development > > stream "rawhide", and instead call it "main", then it will be trivially > > aligned with the "main" git branch name :-) > > But f

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Christopher
Wouldn't "rawhide" be the best name for most git repos, rather than "main"? On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 18:28 Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12/8/20 11:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Well, I don't want to keep master around in any form... and yeah, I > > realize there's going to be fallout. ;( > > Maybe we ca

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/8/20 11:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, I don't want to keep master around in any form... and yeah, I realize there's going to be fallout. ;( Maybe we can phase it? First, provide the backwards compatible ref, see what breaks anyway. And only after some time, remove it? -- Miro Hrončok

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:13:13PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:26:18PM +0100, P

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-07 Thread Petr Šabata
On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:26:18PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > Also a couple of notes on modularity here: > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:26:18PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > Also a couple of notes on modularity here: > > > > > > # By default, module stream name is derived from the br

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 4:39 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM DJ Delorie wrote: > > > But fedoras aren't made of sheets of main, they're made from sheets of > > rawhide... > > Actually, fedoras can be made from many different > source materials (straw, cotton, hemp, etc

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:24 PM DJ Delorie wrote: > But fedoras aren't made of sheets of main, they're made from sheets of > rawhide... Actually, fedoras can be made from many different source materials (straw, cotton, hemp, etc.) in addition to rawhide. There are some workflows such that I have

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Daniel P. Berrangé writes: > Perhaps this is heresy, but we could stop calling our main development > stream "rawhide", and instead call it "main", then it will be trivially > aligned with the "main" git branch name :-) But fedoras aren't made of sheets of main, they're made from sheets of rawhid

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Petr Šabata
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:26:18PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > Also a couple of notes on modularity here: > > > > # By default, module stream name is derived from the branch name > > If we have any "master" modules, those will get unexpectedl

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:09:01AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I always thought it could be something better like 'headwaters' or > something. But that gets us into a big long bikeshed. :( I thought we'd all already settled on Primordial Soup. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:26:18PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > Also a couple of notes on modularity here: > > # By default, module stream name is derived from the branch name > If we have any "master" modules, those will get unexpectedly renamed > as soon as they get rebuilt. This might impact tag

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 06:11:40AM -0500, Pavel Valena wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Till Maas" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:09:27 AM > > Subject: Re: Fedo

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:01:04AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:50:24PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? > > > For all n

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 04. 12. 20 v 15:25 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): > +1 for "rawhide" as the branch name. > > I have always seen the inconsistency between "rawhide" and "master" as a > result of "master" being a default name in git. If we are going to change it > anyway, we should change it to the real na

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Fabio Valentini wrote: > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? > For all non-dist-git repositories I am fine with "main", but if we are > changing this anyway, "rawhide" would actually make more sense for > dist-git repos. > This would make the branch name actua

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:03 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 12:24:32PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:25:20PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > On T

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 12:24:32PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:25:20PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > On Thu,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Pavel Valena
- Original Message - > From: "Till Maas" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:09:27 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change) > > On Thu, Dec 03, 202

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:52:13PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > After looking at the infra and releng issue trackers Kevin managed to found > back > the ticket I was thinking about. > You have my apologies, the namespace that was asking to a different default > branch and for that branch to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:01 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Perhaps this is heresy, but we could stop calling our main development > stream "rawhide", and instead call it "main", then it will be trivially > aligned with the "main" git branch name :-) > > I've never felt "rawhide" was a particula

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:50:24PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? > > For all non-dist-git repositories I am fine with "main", but if we are > > changing t

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/4/20 10:04 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 04. 12. 20 v 0:43 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 12/3/20 7:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: As an alternate proposal, what is currently "master" could be moved to "rawhide" and a_new_  "main" branch created explicity to hold just a readme about that package'

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 23:26 Petr Šabata napsal(a): Also a couple of notes on modularity here: # By default, module stream name is derived from the branch name If we have any "master" modules, those will get unexpectedly renamed as soon as they get rebuilt. This might impact tagging or updates and ca

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 04. 12. 20 v 0:43 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 12/3/20 7:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: As an alternate proposal, what is currently "master" could be moved to "rawhide" and a_new_  "main" branch created explicity to hold just a readme about that package's packaging details (like which branche

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-04 Thread Clement Verna
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 21:01, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:56:09PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > >On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 16:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon <[1] > pin...@pingoured.fr> > >wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/4/20 1:21 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 07:21:17PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: If you don't have anything interesting to say, it could just be the description of the package. Or other auto-generated information. The information can be requested by machines, why would

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 07:21:17PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > If you don't have anything interesting to say, it could just be the > description of the package. Or other auto-generated information. > > The information can be requested by machines, why would a human maintain it? > It's useful for

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 01:17:29AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers > >of the various branches. > So except of maintain the branches, I need to maintain a README for > my ~200 packages and keep it up to date? That's a big sho

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/4/20 1:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Who maintains this README? We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers of the various branches. So except of maintain the branches, I need to maintain a RE

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Who maintains this README? We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers of the various branches. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact * rpkg (fedpkg)? Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could t

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 7:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: As an alternate proposal, what is currently "master" could be moved to "rawhide" and a_new_ "main" branch created explicity to hold just a readme about that package's packaging details (like which branches are what when there are module branches or other

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Petr Šabata
Also a couple of notes on modularity here: # By default, module stream name is derived from the branch name If we have any "master" modules, those will get unexpectedly renamed as soon as they get rebuilt. This might impact tagging or updates and cause confusion in general. We should check if ther

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:25:20PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > > > https://fed

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:53:00PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:56:09PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: >On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 16:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon <[1]pin...@pingoured.fr> >wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton <[2]bcot...@redhat.c

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? > For all non-dist-git repositories I am fine with "main", but if we are > changing this anyway, "rawhide" would actually make more sense for > dist-git repo

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 16:02 Ben Cotton napsal(a): > * Release engineering: > >Releng will adjust any scripts that assume 'master' branch to use > 'main' instead. The list includes and maybe few more I do not see in the list upstream of dist-git. I proceeded with: https://github.com/release-engin

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 03.12.2020 16:02, Ben Cotton wrote: This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be manually moved and default git branch for new projects will be set to use "main". 1. Why "main" and not "rawhide"? 2. W

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 16:31 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): >> >> * rpkg (fedpkg)? > >Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. but is impacted. There is bunch of if rel == 'master': return ['master'] which needs to be updated. Also request_repo have hard-coded "master" name. >> * COPR? >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:39:35PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > > > > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? > > > > Wrapper to g

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Clement Verna
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 16:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > > > This Cha

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:53 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > > default

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > == Summary == > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be > manually

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:08 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? Aligning as much as possible with what appears to be the industry consensus ("main") makes sense to me, as I will be able to (re)train my finger muscle memory in the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Petr Šabata
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? > > Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could think of was: > when we fe

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could think of was: when we fedpkg clone an empty git repo, have fedpkg do the "git branch -M main" di

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Petr Šabata
Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact * rpkg (fedpkg)? * koji (if no git commit is provided)? * COPR? * Koschei or other such services? P ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > > default gi

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > == Summary == > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be > manually moved and