Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2025-01-06 Thread Vojtech Trefny
I have changed the title to "Anaconda Installer Using GPT on all architectures by Default" and updated the description as well. I'll be happy to work with Neil to extend the scope to image creation as well, but my original idea was to cover only the installer defaults the same way

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
t appear in > > the title, Summary, or Detailed Description at all. One needs to read > > until the very end to understand that this would only apply to images > > created with Anaconda. > > > > Well, I'd rather we actually did the same thing elsewhere too. &g

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-21 Thread Neal Gompa
y to images > created with Anaconda. > Well, I'd rather we actually did the same thing elsewhere too. Consistency here is valuable wherever we can achieve it. I was surprised to learn we can use GPT on IBM Z, so it's being explored to support it in kiwi: https://github.com/OSInsi

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 07:59:28PM +0100, Simon de Vlieger wrote: > On 12/12/24 5:04 PM, Vojtech Trefny wrote: > > The default we have in blivet actually applies only to systems > > installed with Anaconda so this would not be true for many ARM > > systems. The images used with arm-image-installer

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Vojtech Trefny
Support for discoverable partitions was added in Fedora 40: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/release-notes.html#discoverable-gpt-partitions On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 8:22 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote: > > Would it make sense to also change to the use of DDI [1] partition type

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/12/24 5:04 PM, Vojtech Trefny wrote: The default we have in blivet actually applies only to systems installed with Anaconda so this would not be true for many ARM systems. The images used with arm-image-installer are different. While it is mentioned under scope the title of the change pro

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
Would it make sense to also change to the use of DDI [1] partition types in these GPT tables if we're about to go through them? [1]: https://uapi-group.org/specifications/specs/discoverable_partitions_specification/ Regards, Simon -- ___

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/12/24 6:32 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: A hybrid GPT+MBR environment could fix this, couldn't it? In general, I would prefer to use GPT everywhere, and I know there are compatibility schemes for supporting MBR "stuff" with GPT. A hybrid MBR+GPT would fix this and would be ne

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 12:05 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > We can technically do this, but it will cut off a bunch of ARM boards. > > In particular, we discovered that Raspberry Pis had problems with > > pure-GPT[1], so I forced pure MBR for now[2] while w

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > We can technically do this, but it will cut off a bunch of ARM boards. > In particular, we discovered that Raspberry Pis had problems with > pure-GPT[1], so I forced pure MBR for now[2] while we figure out if > there's even a reasonable path to GPT for ARM images.

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Vojtech Trefny
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 4:32 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce > said: > > Because GPT was already the default > > for ARM64 > > FYI this doesn't appear to be the case - I have a fresh install of > Fedora 41 on

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:25 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce > said: > > Because GPT was already the default > > for ARM64 > > FYI this doesn't appear to be the case - I have a fresh install of > Fedora 41 on

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce said: > Because GPT was already the default > for ARM64 FYI this doesn't appear to be the case - I have a fresh install of Fedora 41 on a Raspberry Pi 4B, using arm-image-installer to write the server image to a microSD card, and i

F42 Change Proposal: Install Using GPT on all architectures by Default (system-wide)

2024-12-12 Thread Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforAllByDefault Discussion Thread - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-install-using-gpt-on-all-architectures-by-default-system-wide/139538 This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux. This document represents a proposed

Re: Current test branch: Error message systemd-gpt-auto-generator[1169]: Failed to dissect: Permission denied

2022-10-17 Thread Peter Boy
8): avc: denied { sys_admin } for pid=1635 > comm="systemd-gpt-aut" capability=21 > scontext=system_u:system_r:systemd_gpt_generator_t:s0 > tcontext=system_u:system_r:systemd_gpt_generator_t:s0 tclass=capability > permissive=0 > > I can’t find any impairments from it

Re: Current test branch: Error message systemd-gpt-auto-generator[1169]: Failed to dissect: Permission denied

2022-10-17 Thread Zdenek Pytela
On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 6:03 PM Peter Boy wrote: > With branch 20221012 as well as 20221014 I get with Fedora Server on BIOS > boot Hardware several AVC events like > > type=AVC msg=audit(1665848517.93:288): avc: denied { sys_admin } for > pid=1635 comm="systemd-gpt-aut"

Current test branch: Error message systemd-gpt-auto-generator[1169]: Failed to dissect: Permission denied

2022-10-15 Thread Peter Boy
With branch 20221012 as well as 20221014 I get with Fedora Server on BIOS boot Hardware several AVC events like type=AVC msg=audit(1665848517.93:288): avc: denied { sys_admin } for pid=1635 comm="systemd-gpt-aut" capability=21 scontext=system_u:system_r:systemd_gpt_generator_t:s0

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-03 Thread Peter Boy
behavior, we should have a test case to verify > this behavior for all three Anaconda install modes (MBR+BIOS, > GPT+BIOS, UEFI). If this is truly something we care about, then we > should have communicated this need to the Anaconda team so that they > would care about it, independent of

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-03 Thread Chris Murphy
I consider this > irresponsible. And I don't understand why you stubbornly insist on this > change proposal as is, instead of looking for solutions that keep mischief > away from our users and change to GPT as default (which is undoubtedly the > future standard). GPT is alread

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:27 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 02.06.2022 um 19:20 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > : > > > > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 09:18:27AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > >> > >> ... > >> > >> And even those who can continue to use Fedora Server via update are under > >> the

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-02 Thread Neal Gompa
y use hardware RAID there instead of software RAID. If we care about this behavior, we should have a test case to verify this behavior for all three Anaconda install modes (MBR+BIOS, GPT+BIOS, UEFI). If this is truly something we care about, then we should have communicated this need to the Anacond

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-02 Thread Peter Boy
makes it unnecessarily overly difficult) who have relied (and could rely) on us so far to continue using Fedora Server. I consider this irresponsible. And I don't understand why you stubbornly insist on this change proposal as is, instead of looking for solutions that keep mischief away

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-02 Thread Neal Gompa
undocumented feature. > It's going to replace inst.gpt. This is described in the Change document. > And do we really want our users to fiddle around with editing boot line > options as a standard procedure for using a standard use case? > It's not standard at all. We don&#

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-02 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 02.06.2022 um 19:20 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > : > > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 09:18:27AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: >> >> ... >> >> And even those who can continue to use Fedora Server via update are under >> the threat of having to switch distributions overnight in the event of

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-06-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
ed the proposal and insists that the proposal be > >> deferred until Anaconda can install software raid on biosboot systems with > >> GPT (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2088113 and > >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ser...@lists.fedo

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-30 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 30.05.2022 um 11:39 schrieb Colin Walters : > > Just a note: Fedora CoreOS has used a hybrid BIOS/UEFI setup since its > inception, and also supports this "mirrored boot" setup: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/storage/#_reconfiguring_the_root_filesystem > https://gi

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, May 29, 2022, at 6:55 AM, Peter Boy wrote: > > Fedora Server WG discussed the proposal and insists that the proposal > be deferred until Anaconda can install software raid on biosboot > systems with GPT (see > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20881

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-30 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
or dropdown somewhere in Anaconda to force using MBR instead of GPT? > but it wouldn't be a release blocking bug That only makes the issue worse. If the bug were release-blocking, the feature could be pushed forward under the (implied by default) condition that the release-blocking bu

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-30 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 30.05.2022 um 04:28 schrieb Chris Murphy : > > On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 6:56 AM Peter Boy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Server WG discussed the proposal and insists that the proposal be >> deferred until Anaconda can install software rai

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-29 Thread Chris Murphy
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved > > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > > > == Summary == > > This Change makes it so that Fedora Linux systems installed

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-29 Thread Peter Boy
proposal will only be implemented if approved > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > == Summary == > This Change makes it so that Fedora Linux systems installed on legacy > x86 BIOS systems will get GPT partitioning by default instead of > legacy MBR partitioning. This

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 9:25 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > This simplifies our default code path by using the same partitioning > > scheme as UEFI systems and aligns us more to how Fedora variants that > > are delivered as disk images, which all use a similar setup. It

Re: F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-16 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
> == Benefit to Fedora == > This simplifies our default code path by using the same partitioning > scheme as UEFI systems and aligns us more to how Fedora variants that > are delivered as disk images, which all use a similar setup. It also > paves the way to implement hybrid BIOS+UEFI boot for lega

F37 proposal: Install Using GPT on x86_64 BIOS by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-14 Thread Ben Cotton
Committee. == Summary == This Change makes it so that Fedora Linux systems installed on legacy x86 BIOS systems will get GPT partitioning by default instead of legacy MBR partitioning. This makes x86 BIOS installs more similar to x86 UEFI installs. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Ngompa| Neal Gompa

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-06-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:38 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallGPTwithKickstart > This proposal has been withdrawn by the owner. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
FWIW virt-builder uses: zerombr clearpart --all --initlabel --disklabel=gpt autopart --type=plain Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com libguestfs lets you edit virtual

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:37 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > I don't know why we all missed it. Butt that appears to be the case. > > > > However, the end goal is to create hybrid BIOS+UEFI cloud images via > > kickstart. (Maybe down the road it could be generally useful, if/when the > >

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-27 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > I don't know why we all missed it. Butt that appears to be the case. > > However, the end goal is to create hybrid BIOS+UEFI cloud images via > kickstart. (Maybe down the road it could be generally useful, if/when the > existing bootloader UI bits go away.) https://git.kraxel.org/cgit/i

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, May 27, 2021, 10:28 AM Brian C. Lane wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:38:56AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallGPTwithKickstart > > > > > > == Summary == > > Add support for configuring GPT partition table in kic

Re: F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-27 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 11:38:56AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallGPTwithKickstart > > > == Summary == > Add support for configuring GPT partition table in kickstart without > requiring a custom pre-installation script or a

F35 Change: Support using a GPT partition table in Kickstart (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-05-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallGPTwithKickstart == Summary == Add support for configuring GPT partition table in kickstart without requiring a custom pre-installation script or a custom boot script. [[Category:SystemWideChange]] == Owners == * Name: [[User:Davdunc|David Duncan

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 4, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:46:17PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: >>> I have a system that corrupts the backup GPT on every reboot. >> >> Certain RAID impleme

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:46:17PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > > I have a system that corrupts the backup GPT on every reboot. > > Certain RAID implementations write metadata at the end of the disk and > step on the backup

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
> system even more. Right. If anything, a heuristic more sophisticated than checksum pass-fail, might indicate when NOT to do something in an unattended use context. For instance if a valid GPT contains overlaps, yet the invalid one contains entries that do not, and that invalid entry happen

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Bastian wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> The bottom line question is, would it be useful to have an fsck_gpt >> run by systemd at either startup or shutdown time? > > I have a system that corru

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
quot;maximum wins", or arbitrary edit of extent fields. > The tool also should diagnose "protective MBR" situations and > understand common values for partition type entries (both GPT and MBR). > It should provide the ability to overwrite any existing checksum > with the ca

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. > > Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primar

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:59 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 10/24/2013 01:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. >> >> Sounds sensibl

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Bastian
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > The bottom line question is, would it be useful to have an fsck_gpt > run by systemd at either startup or shutdown time? I have a system that corrupts the backup GPT on every reboot: the CRC32 in the backup GPT is always 0.

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread John Reiser
On 10/24/2013 01:33 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. > > Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primary &

Re: various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-24 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:49:35PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > So that's why I ask if it makes sense to have an fsck for GPT disks. Sounds sensible. The "fsck" would just check the checksums of primary & secondary tables, and if an error in either (but not both) is det

various mishandlings of corrupt GPT

2013-10-23 Thread Chris Murphy
The bottom line question is, would it be useful to have an fsck_gpt run by systemd at either startup or shutdown time? This wasn't needed for MBR, so it seems kinda silly to suggest it, but there are some cases of one or the other GPT being stepped on in a way that probably never happen

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-13 Thread Benjamin De Kosnik
> It sounds like your entry in your UEFI boot manager was erased. Did > you perform a UEFI update or clear it? > > To fix it in the future run "efibootmgr -c" to reinsert the entry. Aaaah. Thanks for pointing me at efibootmgr. -benjamin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 14:23 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > On 12/12/2012 10:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > UEFI is not BIOS. The command you were looking for is grub2-efi-install, > > whereas grub2-install is for BIOS systems. The package you should already > > have is grub2-efi. And on UEFI sy

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Stephan Bergmann wrote: > Then, "grub2-install /dev/sda" still failed to work with "this GPT > partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be > possible." In the end, I managed to get things working again with > "re-installin

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-12 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 12/12/2012 10:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: UEFI is not BIOS. The command you were looking for is grub2-efi-install, whereas grub2-install is for BIOS systems. The package you should already have is grub2-efi. And on UEFI systems there are no boot sectors, there is a partition dedicated for bo

Re: grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Murphy
UEFI is not BIOS. The command you were looking for is grub2-efi-install, whereas grub2-install is for BIOS systems. The package you should already have is grub2-efi. And on UEFI systems there are no boot sectors, there is a partition dedicated for boot managers/loaders as EFI applications called

grub2-tools and UEFI/GPT

2012-12-12 Thread Stephan Bergmann
When my UEFI/GPT-based Fedora 17 box refused to boot yesterday, I ran into the following trouble. The disk looked reasonably well from a rescue system, so I naively figured that something might be wrong with its initial sectors, and that grub2-install might magically fix that again. First

Re: GPT

2012-04-24 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:39:52PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is a grub option to force gpt for anaconda. > > I'm not sure, but try 'gpt' maybe? I know 'nogpt' exists but I don't > know if there's a parameter to

Re: GPT

2012-04-23 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Apr 23, 2012 1:12 AM, "Chris Murphy" wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > I already have a GPT partition (from my previous installation), but > > Anaconda complains that my boot partition should be of type msdos. The > > only way

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 22, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > I already have a GPT partition (from my previous installation), but > Anaconda complains that my boot partition should be of type msdos. The > only way to proceed seems to be discarding all partitions and creating > an msdos par

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 11:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > > It's a lenovo thinkpad (edge). I remember a bug about some thinkpad > > models having problem with gpt, but it would seem to me as an > > extreme act

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
D (x86_64). On the partitions stage I chose to use all > space, discarding all preexisting partitions, but it creates an msdos > partition table instead of gpt. > >> > >> Is something changed on the default anaconda configuration since > F16? > >> > >>

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread John Reiser
> I already have a GPT partition (from my previous installation), but > Anaconda complains that my boot partition should be of type msdos. The > only way to proceed seems to be discarding all partitions and creating > an msdos partition table. It worked for me on a "white-box cl

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Nikos Roussos
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > > It's a lenovo thinkpad (edge). I remember a bug about some thinkpad models > having problem with gpt, but it would seem to me as an extreme action if all > lenovo mod

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:23:55AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > Is there a compelling reason to want GPT? The format itself is better > > than MBR, but unless I required (a) disk > 2TB or (b) lots of primary > > partitions, I wouldn't worry ... > > GPT is more r

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread John Reiser
> Is there a compelling reason to want GPT? The format itself is better > than MBR, but unless I required (a) disk > 2TB or (b) lots of primary > partitions, I wouldn't worry ... GPT is more robust in some ways. GPT keeps a redundant copy of its info: at the far end as well as

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > It's a lenovo thinkpad (edge). I remember a bug about some thinkpad models > having problem with gpt, but it would seem to me as an extreme action if all > lenovo models were blacklisted. Gpt was working just fine on F

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 08:04:48PM +0300, Nikos Roussos wrote: > It's a lenovo thinkpad (edge). I remember a bug about some thinkpad models > having problem with gpt, but it would seem to me as an extreme action if > all lenovo models were blacklisted. Gpt was working just fine

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/04/12 18:04, Nikos Roussos wrote: I'm wondering if there is a grub option to force gpt for anaconda. Unsure, I've always formatted as GPT (if applicable) before install. -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Nikos Roussos
itions, but it creates an msdos partition table instead of gpt. >> >> Is something changed on the default anaconda configuration since F16? >> >> > What hardware do you have? It may be gpt blacklisted. I can't reproduce your results, even starting out with a disk tha

Re: GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Nikos Roussos wrote: > I just tried to do a fresh installation with the F17 Beta Installation DVD > (x86_64). On the partitions stage I chose to use all space, discarding all > preexisting partitions, but it creates an msdos partition table instead

GPT

2012-04-22 Thread Nikos Roussos
I just tried to do a fresh installation with the F17 Beta Installation DVD (x86_64). On the partitions stage I chose to use all space, discarding all preexisting partitions, but it creates an msdos partition table instead of gpt. Is something changed on the default anaconda configuration since

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-03-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 17:37 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 02/07/2012 12:54 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 23:19 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > >> On 02/06/2012 10:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > >>> In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > Model: ATA ST9500420AS (scsi) > Disk /dev/sda: 500GB > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > Partition Table: gpt > Disk Flags: pmbr_boot > > Number Start End SizeFile system Name Flags > 1

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-03-02 Thread Pádraig Brady
/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 976773167 488386583+ ee GPT Model: ATA ST9500420AS (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 500GB Sector size (lo

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-03-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote: > Yep as expected F17 alpha is broken in the same way on my laptop. Your laptop is what hardware? Any install media kernel parameters used? What installation type? Can you provide both an fdisk and parted (or gdisk) listing of the post-installa

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-03-02 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 02/07/2012 12:54 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 23:19 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: >> On 02/06/2012 10:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: >>> In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as the default disklabel for new >>> installs. In a few cases, mostly lim

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-02-06 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 04:54:01PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 23:19 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > > On 02/06/2012 10:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as the default disklabel for new > > > installs. In a f

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-02-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 23:19 +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 02/06/2012 10:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as the default disklabel for new > > installs. In a few cases, mostly limited to Lenovo hardware, we found > > that some BIOS'

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-02-06 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 02/06/2012 10:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as the default disklabel for new > installs. In a few cases, mostly limited to Lenovo hardware, we found > that some BIOS's would not boot from GPT. We blacklisted Lenovo, falling > back to msdos l

Re: GPT and Fedora 17

2012-02-06 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > In anaconda-17.6 I have reverted the Lenovo blacklist and changed things > so that pmbr_boot is always set on GPT labeled installs. This should > ensure that thing boot correctly. Is this happening only for Lenovo hardware? Or all

GPT and Fedora 17

2012-02-06 Thread Brian C. Lane
In Fedora 16 we changed to using GPT as the default disklabel for new installs. In a few cases, mostly limited to Lenovo hardware, we found that some BIOS's would not boot from GPT. We blacklisted Lenovo, falling back to msdos labels in order to solve this. Thanks to Matthew Garrett we found

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-10-16 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
need to agree on what that happens to be. > > > > > > > > On systems with legacy operating systems installed Fedora does not > > > > touch the > > > > partition table at all. On all other systems GPT is the way to go I'd > > > > say

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-10-14 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
need to agree on what that happens to be. > > > > > > > > On systems with legacy operating systems installed Fedora does not > > > > touch the > > > > partition table at all. On all other systems GPT is the way to go I'd > > > > say

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-10-14 Thread Adam Williamson
ting systems installed Fedora does not touch > > > the > > > partition table at all. On all other systems GPT is the way to go I'd > > > say... > > > > > > > In F16 is it still possible to force creation of MSDOS partition table > > with

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-10-14 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
; with a disk of 2 TB or less. Fedora installation must by default do > > > the right thing. We need to agree on what that happens to be. > > > > On systems with legacy operating systems installed Fedora does not touch > > the > > partition table at all. On al

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-10-14 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
; the right thing. We need to agree on what that happens to be. > > On systems with legacy operating systems installed Fedora does not touch the > partition table at all. On all other systems GPT is the way to go I'd say... > In F16 is it still possible to force creation of MSDO

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: > btw, I just installed F16 on an EFI machine and got Grub Legacy. Are there any > major problems with Grub 2's EFI support? >From a brief conversation I had earlier this week, yes there are. The plan is grub2 for BIOS based machines, grub for

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Lars Seipel
th legacy operating systems installed Fedora does not touch the partition table at all. On all other systems GPT is the way to go I'd say... > On a related topic, why in heaven's name is Fedora not including the > simple grub setup commands that are familiar to Ubuntu users? Making

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Friday, August 26, 2011, 3:35:52 PM, Andrew McNabb wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 04:29:55PM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: >> >> Windows and GPT FAQ: >> >> Q. Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, >> and boot from GPT disks? >>

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 04:29:55PM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > > Windows and GPT FAQ: > > Q. Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, > and boot from GPT disks? > > A. Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. >Booting

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 08/25/2011 08:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > To boot to a GPT disk from BIOS (rather than EFI) you need a BIOS boot > partition. If you use one of the automatic partitioning methods, rather > than manual partitioning, F16's installer will create one for you. If >

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Karel Zak
Fedora to a clean disk, then it will never be > > possible to later install Windows, right? > > One thing I didn't answer - intentionally, as I don't know the answer - > is whether Windows will boot if you have a BIOS boot partition on a > GPT-labelled drive. It may do. Window

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
answer - intentionally, as I don't know the answer - is whether Windows will boot if you have a BIOS boot partition on a GPT-labelled drive. It may do. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:17:58PM -0500, David Lehman wrote: > > It's also true that if you create an msdos/mbr partition table on your > disk prior to installation and then choose any option except for "Use > All Space" (or "clearpart --all" in kickstart) anaconda will not destroy > your existin

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread David Lehman
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 16:17 -0600, Andrew McNabb wrote: > > While installing Fedora 16 Alpha, I ran into some problems that turned > > out to be caused by the installer formatting with a GPT rather than an > >

Re: GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 16:17 -0600, Andrew McNabb wrote: > While installing Fedora 16 Alpha, I ran into some problems that turned > out to be caused by the installer formatting with a GPT rather than an > MBR partition table. > > I would like to understand the change and its impl

GPT in Fedora 16

2011-08-25 Thread Andrew McNabb
While installing Fedora 16 Alpha, I ran into some problems that turned out to be caused by the installer formatting with a GPT rather than an MBR partition table. I would like to understand the change and its implications, and I have unsuccessfully tried to track down more information. I haven&#

Re: Potential F14 feature: Use GPT partition table by default for "wipe complete HD" installations

2010-03-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:39:05PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 07:54:09PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > Yes! > > > > Hopefully BIOS support won't be a problem because of gptsync. Can we > > also get gptsync packaged separately, instead of having an odd version > >

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