Re: dnf interactive config file updates

2015-04-24 Thread Martin Sourada
V Mon, 13 Apr 2015 21:20:49 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" napsáno: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:17:14PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 17:49:45 +0100, > > "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > > > > >Anyway, here is the BZ: > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1211

Re: mc alternative: Double Commander

2013-09-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:59:55 +0200 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 22.9.2013 10:32, Martin Sourada napsal(a): > > Point me to such graphical filemanager. I fail to see even a decent > > gui alternative to mc under linux. > > You can try Double Commander if you like. I'd exp

Re: does mc really require perl*?

2013-09-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:37:50 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > who is using "mc" on a full featured desktop? > typically it is used where you do not have a fat graphical filemanager Point me to such graphical filemanager. I fail to see even a decent gui alternative to mc under linux. MC *is* typically

Re: Moving xine-lib and dependent apps to RPM Fusion Free for F17?

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:58:22 +0200 Xavier Bachelot wrote: > Hi, > > On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > The following packages currently depend on xine-lib: > > * gxine > > * (k9copy – already in RPM Fusion, not affected) > > * kaffeine (my package, the reason why I maintain xin

Re: let's just use Schroedingers Katze as the fedora 19 release name

2013-03-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:40:06 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Martin Sourada > wrote: > > > > Schroedinger Cat sounds much more natural then Cat of Schroedinger… > > Except it's linguistically incorrect. Cat of Schroedinger is genit

Re: let's just use Schroedingers Katze as the fedora 19 release name

2013-03-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:03:46 +0200 Susi Lehtola wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:49:34 +0100 > Lars Seipel wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 March 2013 12:57:46 Kai Engert wrote: > > > Schroedingers Katze > > > > If Peter's patch isn't enough and we really have to change the name > > this is a nice

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 19

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:19:43 +0100 Bill Nottingham wrote: > Removing: notification-daemon > clementine requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19 > gnome-session requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19 > guake requires notification-daemon = 0.7.6-2.fc19 > notification-daemon-

Re: Remove echo-icon-theme from fedora

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:53:18 +0100 Heiko Adams wrote: > Am 24.02.2013 11:47, schrieb Martin Sourada: > > > > > If that makes you happy, Heiko, it wouldn't be much of a problem > > for me to add a couple of symlinks to work-around the issue with > > xdg-folde

Re: Remove echo-icon-theme from fedora

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:49:25 -0800 Dan Mashal wrote: > It'd probably be in your best interest to close any 4+ year old trac > tickets and reply to whatever bugs you have open then. Good suggestion. It needs some cleaning, even though most of the bugs are tracking RFEs created by me back in the day

Re: Remove echo-icon-theme from fedora

2013-02-24 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:31:24 -0800 Dan Mashal wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Heiko Adams > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd request to remove the echo-icon-theme package from Fedora for > > several reasons: > > - it's missing support for xdg folders > > - there's no noteable developement action

Re: [Mass Rebuild] Strange parsing of %%doc

2013-02-16 Thread Martin Sourada
> On 02/16/2013 01:21 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > I've seen Panu commenting on it before, so I've searched a bit: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-January/176565.html Thanks, I didn't read the whole thread back then :-/ On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:06:44 +0200 Panu Matila

[Mass Rebuild] Strange parsing of %%doc

2013-02-16 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi all, WRT subject: before I go to file a bug report I want to make sure I'm not exploiting something unsupported in rpmbuild. In a couple of rpms (for which we're also upstream and I'm managing them, so it's fairly easy for me to "workaround" the issue) I have license saved in file with space,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-15 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:13:08 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > On 09/02/13 01:03 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Last I checked, GDM also hid that feature so well that many users > > missed it. In fact, unless this changed recently, when you input > > your user name, the option is NOT shown, it only app

Re: Gnome-shell workspaces

2013-02-15 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:31:42 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > Kevin, you work on a desktop which sufficiently represents your > views. I think we're all aware that if we want fifteen thousand > settings in the control panel, we can run KDE. Do you really believe > you're going to convince the GNOME

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-09 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Kevin, On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:09:15 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > There are several factors which bias this poll: > * GNOME 3 is the default in Fedora, so of course more Fedora users > will be using it, merely due to the fact that it is the default. > * Some people actually left Fedora over GNO

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:21:00 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Could we move this to a gnome/desktop list? > > The subject of the thread has been decided... > > I don't think it's providing much value to the Fedora devel community > anymore. > Ah, yes, my apologies. I would rather end this off topi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 01:37:03 +0100 drago01 wrote: > I can't recall that many stability bugs getting reported against GNOME > 3.0 ... so [citation needed]. Well the fallback mode being a poor man's excuse was partly the case why the people couldn't stay with gnome. Loads of features weren't impleme

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:45:30 +0100 Stijn Hoop wrote: > But I will keep objecting to the single-sided argument that there is > no "GNOME 2 user" that likes GNOME 3. I fully support those who have > tried and rejected the new stuff -- as long as they don't impose their > opinion on me :-) I don't thi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:50:11 + Debarshi Ray wrote: > It is irrelevant whether it is a daemon or a GUI application. No, it is not. To stay with pulseaudio -- when you're playing a song, it's not exactly easy to tell if it goes to your headphones through alsa, oss, openal, pulseaudio, or a combin

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 22:07:02 + Debarshi Ray wrote: > So do we have multiple kernels in Fedora? We offer .deb variants of > Fedora? Let me say one thing: if you're going by examples, go with proper ones. There is vast difference of work needed to support two kernels and work needed to support t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 16:58:22 +0800 Mathieu Bridon wrote: > But your statement was even less backed by data. ;) > I was assuming the case of newcomers doing the switch "by themselves", coming from Windows (supposedly pre Win8), in rare cases from Mac OS X. My data is generally known -- just look o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:53:20 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > You're a new Linux user, you go to our download page, and instead of a > simple big green Download button, it starts asking you questions about > what 'desktop environment' you want? What the hell is this crap? Well, than with the current

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 16:34:18 +0100 Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Still I believe it is probably true as I doubt Fedora QA tests > compatibility with old hosts. > Fedora QA AFAIK tests on their own hardware only + virtual machines. I don't know about kernel upstream QA/devs though. I'm running F18 on a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:31:11 + James Hogarth wrote: > Might I suggest focusing on packaging 3.4.1 for rawhide and dealing > with the issues surrounding conflicts and if that gies well consider > the 4.0 release (or whatever lines up then) for F20? That's mostly how I understand the proposal. Th

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 06:36:23 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Eric Smith wrote: > > > On 01/28/2013 08:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> I think switching the desktop that has been our default for over 10 > >> years and 18 releases requires just a bit more research and reason > >> than that. ~m > > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:34:03 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > I wrote: > > > Sandro Mani wrote: > >> Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way > >> that the download button points to something similar to the > >> current "More options" page, maybe with a small description for

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:35:43 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > PPS: Oh, and this: > > The /usr/bin/soffice alias is still a problem since (in the Fedora > > packages) it would conflict between LibreOffice and Apache > > OpenOffice: it is recommended to fix it in the LibreOffice packages > > too, at lea

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:38:19 +0100 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:34 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: > > > > > > 2013/2/1 Martin Sourada > > > > Yes, defaults needs to be sensible and usable and for many > > peo

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:36:57 -0500 Bill Nottingham wrote: > Martin Sourada (martin.sour...@gmail.com) said: > > > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > > > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > > > Apache OpenOffi

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:06:17 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: > Maybe a power user is able to understand the main differences between > LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice but, what about newbie users? If they can install their preferred suite on Windows why not on GNU/Linux? People would be more confused

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:43:58 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 01/31/2013 12:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi Marina, > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 > > Marina Latini wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> I'm an Ambassador and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Marina, On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:14:41 +0100 Marina Latini wrote: > Hi all, > I'm an Ambassador and this proposal is confusing me. > We have LibreOffice in our repositories; I think that bring back > Apache OpenOffice generates only confusion between users, not freedom > of choice. > The confu

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:27:42 -0500 Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Mon 28 Jan 2013 02:17:29 PM EST, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > "Going away" isn't the correct phrase. The UI of Fallback Mode is > > going to transition to a new feature called Classic Mode. It's an > > official feature of Gnome 3.8. >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-29 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Dan, On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:52:03 -0800 Dan Mashal wrote: > > Lets all listen to Miami because she did a great job with anaconda 18 > UI design, knows more than Linus, Alan Cox and is absolutely right on > everything! > Now, as much as I strongly disagree with the UI changes anaconda made in

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:27 +0200 Till Maas wrote: > This has already manifested for me with the slow keys feature that GDM > enables and makes one believe that the keyboard died. > Yes, this happened to me once as well... I was really bewildered as to what to do. But I think with tapping it's t

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Adam, On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:54:07 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > When lots of people who clearly aren't complete idiots tell you > something happens to them, it's probably best just to accept that it > does, because arguing that you can't possibly see how it could > possibly happen to them is

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:44:16 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > Because some people that can actually use it (i.e I never > > accidentally click when trying to move the mouse; maybe you just > > have a crappy touchpad?). > > On my notebook, touchpad tapping is off of course. I have t

GXine -- seeking help and comaintaner(s)

2012-08-10 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi all, I've just fixed (yes, I know I'm late) gxine build. GXine video player isn't exactly speedily developed piece of software (last hg commit is 5 months old) and it isn't exactly stable either... I, as the main maintainer, have too little time to be able to fix crasher bugs, and I am also slo

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-11 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Adam, On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:39:38 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 16:11 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > I used preupgrade for the first time and had a similar experience, > > but nothing one cannot fix... > > > > 1. Prepared the preupgra

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Sourada
I used preupgrade for the first time and had a similar experience, but nothing one cannot fix... 1. Prepared the preupgrade process (f16->f17) 2. reboot and start upgrade 3. upgrade gets stuck on some package (IIRC it was something lisp related). No CPU or HDD usage for about half an hour 4. got i

Re: [ACTION NO LONGER REQUIRED] Retired packages for F-17

2012-03-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 18:21:43 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 17:46:45 +, > Peter Robinson wrote: > > leonidas-backgrounds-11.0.0-2.fc12 > > This one just had an extra newline in the sources file and I have > started new builds for f17 and f18. I push the f17 build to

FAS mails in Spanish?

2011-11-19 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, just a few minutes ago I received a mail from FAS (I've double checked that the info inside is correct and that it indeed came from fedora infra machines) informing me of a user requesting a membership in one of the groups I have sponsor status in. That wouldn't be surprising were it not for t

Re: Why EDID is not trustworthy for DPI

2011-10-14 Thread Martin Sourada
A bit late, but still this thread has been slightly getting on my nerves... On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:44:40 +0100 Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:35:08AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > I am sure display manager can easily grow a button to say something > > along the lines of: ch

License change for libass

2011-06-07 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, libass's license changed from GPLv2+ to ISC, which is more permissive, since 0.9.12. No ABI/API changes, only fixes/improvements so I'm going to push it to all releases. Regards, Martin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://adm

Nautilus does not update [was: rawhide report: 20110201 changes]

2011-02-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:19:49 + Rawhide Report wrote: > nautilus-2.91.8-2.fc15 > -- > * Mon Jan 31 2011 Cosimo Cecchi - 2.91.8-2 > - Update selinux patch > > * Mon Jan 31 2011 Cosimo Cecchi - 2.91.8-1 > - Update to 2.91.8 Does not update: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 07:39 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/17/2010 03:57 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > >> ---

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:17 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/16/2010 04:28 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > >>

Re: Adding patches in a SPEC

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 11:18 -0500, Eric "Sparks" Christensen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:04, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:48 +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > >> You need to do patch on top of source tree container > >> > >> mycoolpkg-5.3/ > >> /Makefile > >>

[LICENSE CHANGE] gtk-murrine-engine changes license to dual-licensing LGPLv2.1 and LGPLv3

2010-10-11 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi all, as required by the licensing guidelines [1] I announce hereby a license change in gtk-murrine-engine in version 0.98.1 and newer to dual-licensing "LGPLv2.1 and LGPLv3" from GPLv2+. Since the change is to more permissive licenses, AFAIK nothing in fedora uses gtk-murrine-engine directly an

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:40 +, Matej Cepl wrote: > Martin Sourada, Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:39:00 +0200: > > But I have my doubts about > > mozilla in this regard, after all, proper support on linux does not seem > > to be high priority for them > > I just fell the u

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 09:57 +0200, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 09/30/2010 08:54 PM, Sven Lankes wrote: > > 2. The combination of the Mozilla Trademark issue combined with the > > strict handling of patches by (corporate|distro)-maintainers (I don't > > think that this is a RH/Fedora issue -

Re: Evolution-2.31.91 & .92 for F14

2010-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:35 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 20:10 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > If you download either of these versions from koji and try to install > > them, you get a deps issue with gnome-panel, as it requires > > libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit). > >

Re: A way to keep systemd running on F14?

2010-09-16 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:00 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote: > You can set the init process in grub.conf, just append to the kernel > line the following: > real_init=/bin/systemd > Forgive the probably dumb question, but why real_init? I was using init=/sbin/upstart back in the days when systemd was s

Re: F14 youtube support?

2010-09-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 10:32 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:59:21 +0300 > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > On 09/02/2010 03:07 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > On 09/01/2010 07:59 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > >> > > >> So? Is there any way to use youtube on Fedora? > > >

Re: rawhide report: 20100901 changes

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:20 +, Rawhide Report wrote: > entangle-0.1.0-7.fc14.x86_64 requires libmozjs.so()(64bit) > ethos-0.2.2-7.fc15.i686 requires libmozjs.so > ethos-0.2.2-7.fc15.x86_64 requires libmozjs.so()(64bit) > gjs-0.7.1-3.fc14.i686 requires libmozjs.so >

Re: applied, non-theoretical use of systemd

2010-08-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 12:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 08/27/2010 10:44 AM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > 1. I noticed that one can no longer (with v8-2) turn off the computer by > > clicking the > > 'turn off computer' button in KDE. I figured out, with help of recent > > threads, tha

Re: 1 more git problem

2010-08-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:16 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > > Am 26.08.10 20:58, schrieb Neal Becker: > >> Updating mercurial (stop laughing) to 1.6.3. I updated master, f14, f13. > >> Made some mistake on f12. Now: > >> > >> git status > >> # On branch f12 > >> # Your b

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya! > > We shifted a few files around and most likely your > /etc/systemd/system/default.target link will now point into the void, in > case anaconda wrote it. If that happens to you and you end up in a > rescue shell instead of a f

Re: My apologies... [Was: Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk]

2010-08-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 23:03 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: > Hi, all. > > As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me first > to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say that I > know now that almost maxing-out one's unit counts for a semester, > double-majoring

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I still remember the epic fail of having KDE 4.0 in stable fedora > > * I still think the KDE 4.0.3 we shipped in F9 wasn't that bad. We fixed all > the showstoppers before F9 was released,

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Seeing your mail, you more or less agree with this. So why exactly are > > you against the policy explicitly requiring either positive karma or > > some minimal time in testing (setti

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 10:32 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > There are also bazillion distributions out there who are on the bleeding > > edge. > > But none that have the current stuff without blatant breakage as updates to > the stable releases, a

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-14 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 11:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > David Malcolm wrote: > > I think that a distinction can be made between core packages that many > > different components depend upon versus "leaf" packages that do their > > own thing and no other component relies on. I do think we should be

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 20:14 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly oppose > > this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing things > > differently from anyone else in fedora - the

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 20:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly oppose > > this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing things > > differently from anyone else in fedora - the

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 17:17 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Friday, August 13, 2010 05:09:17 pm Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > Then we have to push broken updates, policy says so and it's ok, so let's > > > do it > > > > > > :( > > > > A policy requiring us to push somet

Re: WebKit(s) SIG

2010-08-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 18:11 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > There is already WebKit page on Wiki [1] but I'd > like to use this one as the entry point for users, not for more concrete > technical discussion. So I created another page under SIGs category [2] (is > there any policy for creation of S

Re: WebKit(s) SIG

2010-08-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 16:45 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Hi all (and if not all, feel free to add them to CC). > I'd like to establish > WebKit SIG (or some sort of group of people interested in WebKit in Fedora - > no need for any official one) as it's quite an overhead to maintain such a big

Re: F14 gnome-control-panel appearance

2010-08-05 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:09 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > The new personalisation panel will only allow you to change background > and screensaver. Changing themes/fonts of all kinds for accessibility > purposes will be in the a11y panel (should already be in master > upstream). > Interesting de

Re: F14 gnome-control-panel appearance

2010-08-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 13:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 22:36 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 17:33 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:18 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2010-08-04

Re: F14 gnome-control-panel appearance

2010-08-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 17:33 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:18 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 05:01 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > > Is this hidden somewhere, missing or not included any longer? I can't > > > seem to find it at all. > > > > Parts

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 05:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update > > f13: > [snip a bunch of git tribulations] > > It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even > the maintainer of

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 09:43 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 09:24 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty > > important gnome desktop component but it

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:28 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > What we really need > is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora > and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that > shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a madn

The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-01 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream bugfix

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 10:42 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 02:13 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > Ok, so trying to update a package (libass) I've noticed a tiny problem: > > the fedpkg switch-branch d

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 23:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:03 +0200, David Tardon wrote: > > > > And while Thunderbird 3 was included due to the slow development pace of > > > the upstream (we used to have a very old Tb 2), Firefox 4 comes with at > > > least a killer

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:49 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > Excellent news! Thanks for all the work. > > One thing I've never got around to working out how to do in git which > is different from previous is dealing with branches. Where previously > it was as simple as changing directories to

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 11:20 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 17:17 +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > > 2010/7/30 Martin Sourada : > > > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > >> Without the help of many other

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 17:17 +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > 2010/7/30 Martin Sourada : > > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > >> Without the help of many others, this project would never have gotten > >> done. Folks helped out wit

Re: The move to git!

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:55 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > Without the help of many others, this project would never have gotten > done. Folks helped out with Koji modifications, with fedpkg > contributions, with repeated testing of attempted conversions, with > logic checking of my plans, of hel

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:58 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 07/28/2010 04:47 PM, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:16 PM, drago01 > > wrote: > > > > > > No disagreement here ... in fact this is a not really a "baby step" > > but "

F14 Wallpapers Package -- Need a Review

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi all, As some of you might know, we (the Fedora Design Team) would like to have first wallpapers available in Alpha release. So I've prepared a package with them (pretty much reusing spec file from previous releases) which is now awaiting a review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 07/28/2010 01:08 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> On 07/27/2010 10:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> > >>> Are we skipping Firefox 4 for Fedora 14? Beta 2 has been released > >>> recently and I am wondering if we can go with it if it fits i

Re: Headsup: ABI changing libebml bump coming to rawhide

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 13:39 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 12:37 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > So summarizing: > > libmatroska > > mkvtoolnix > > vlc-core > > > > Need to be rebuild. > > > I'll be updating also libm

Re: Headsup: ABI changing libebml bump coming to rawhide

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 12:37 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi All, > > A new libebml version (1.0.0) is coming to a rawhide near you. This > version properly bumps the soname as already should have been done > with the 0.8.0 release. > > So all packages using libebml will need to be rebuild: > [h

Re: Font rendering in F13

2010-05-26 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 10:29 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 09:51:53PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > The patents for the former expired but apparently some fonts look > > worse with it so we decided to disable it. > > (I have been running with it enabled for years and for me stu

Re: rpms/gnome-desktop/F-13 gnome-desktop.spec, 1.241, 1.242 sources, 1.97, 1.98

2010-04-19 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 00:24 +, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Author: mclasen > > Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/gnome-desktop/F-13 > In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv10490 > > Modified Files: > gnome-desktop.spec sources > Log Message: > 2.30.0 > # Make sure to update

Directory ownership bugs

2010-03-01 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, could these bug messages be a little more specific? I believe I've fixed this issue [1] (filled originally as [2]) already, but from [1] it isn't clear what version of the package was tested -- the supposedly fixed one or some previous version? Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://bugzilla.