Re: Orphaning owncloud and nextcloud

2019-10-31 Thread James Hogarth
Hi all, There's been no interest from anyone else so I've gone ahead and orphaned these. James On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:16, James Hogarth wrote: > Hi all, > > It's become clear that I haven't had the time I thought I'd have this past > year due to

Orphaning owncloud and nextcloud

2019-10-21 Thread James Hogarth
Hi all, It's become clear that I haven't had the time I thought I'd have this past year due to $life ... These are in a bit of a broken state and right now I'd advise people that need them to use upstream packages/containers. I don't foresee sufficient time coming in the near future with family

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-05-02 Thread James Hogarth
On 2 May 2018 at 12:11, Marek Greško wrote: > Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. > To keep people up to date ... I figured I'd do owncloud first as that looked a simple single version jump ... There was much pain that ensued trying to maintain the unbundling of the PHP libraries as upstream

Re: systemd in non-privileged container

2018-04-30 Thread James Hogarth
On 30 April 2018 at 15:56, Daniel Walsh wrote: > On 04/30/2018 10:42 AM, James Hogarth wrote: >> >> On 27 April 2018 at 17:47, Pavel Raiskup wrote: >>> >>> On Friday, April 27, 2018 5:41:19 PM CEST Lennart Poettering wrote: >>>> >>>>

Re: systemd in non-privileged container

2018-04-30 Thread James Hogarth
On 27 April 2018 at 17:47, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Friday, April 27, 2018 5:41:19 PM CEST Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Fr, 27.04.18 17:27, Pavel Raiskup (prais...@redhat.com) wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > just wanted to let you know about trivial experiment [1] with systemd in >> > contain

Re: Should boost package install boost-python2 / boost-python3 / both or none?

2018-04-21 Thread James Hogarth
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, 19:02 Jonathan Wakely, wrote: > On 19/04/18 18:42 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > >On 19/04/18 19:07 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>I was recently surprised that `dnf install boost` brings in python2. > >> > >>It is like that because boost brings in bost-python and that is >

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-11 Thread James Hogarth
On 11 April 2018 at 15:02, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 4:43 AM, Alexander Bokovoy > wrote: > >> I'm not in Ansible engineering or product management so take this with a >> grain of salt. My understanding is that cadence of Ansible releases and >> its aggressiveness in API

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-11 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 10:05 Peter Robinson, wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:58 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > James Hogarth wrote: > >> I was under the impression that as of 2.4.0 in EL7 we removed ansible > >> from EPEL7 since Red Hat included it in their extras re

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EL7

2018-04-10 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 01:26 Todd Zullinger, wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 00:59 Todd Zullinger, wrote: > >> Red Hat announced today that Ansible was being deprecated > >> from the extras channel. Their advice is that those who > >> ha

Re: [EPEL-devel] Ansible in EL7

2018-04-10 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 01:13 James Hogarth, wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 00:59 Todd Zullinger, wrote: > >> James Hogarth wrote: >> > I was under the impression that as of 2.4.0 in EL7 we removed ansible >> > from EPEL7 since Red Hat included it in their

Re: [EPEL-devel] Ansible in EL7

2018-04-10 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018, 00:59 Todd Zullinger, wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > > I was under the impression that as of 2.4.0 in EL7 we removed ansible > > from EPEL7 since Red Hat included it in their extras repo, and EPEL > > policy is not to conflict. > > > >

Ansible in EL7

2018-04-10 Thread James Hogarth
Hi all, I was under the impression that as of 2.4.0 in EL7 we removed ansible from EPEL7 since Red Hat included it in their extras repo, and EPEL policy is not to conflict. I was surprised just now to see ansible 2.5.0 on a test centos system, when it wasn't in extras, and on a little bit of a se

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-06 Thread James Hogarth
On 6 April 2018 at 10:18, Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 04/04/18 18:21, James Hogarth wrote: > [...] >> >> Can we please get some consistency here? >> >> I noted today that firewalld has dropped python2-firewall but of course >> ansible isn't switching to py

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-06 Thread James Hogarth
On 6 April 2018 at 01:10, Eric Garver wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 10:53:03PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:06 PM, James Hogarth >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, 18:28 Matthew Miller, wrote: >> >>

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-05 Thread James Hogarth
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, 18:28 Matthew Miller, wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 04:03:24PM +0000, James Hogarth wrote: > > > I'm imagining all those dependent packages _also_ moving to that > > > module > > Sorry Matthew but I can't see that actually ha

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-05 Thread James Hogarth
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, 16:05 Matthew Miller, wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 03:11:47PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > But it's not python2 itself going that is really the painful part of > > this ... it's the various python2-* packages going bye-bye as > > maintain

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 April 2018 at 13:23, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:58:57AM +0200, Petr Viktorin wrote: >> And if you read the original mail to the end, you'll find that our >> position is not as black-and-white as it might look from the Subject >> line. >> As Python SIG we maintain old P

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 April 2018 at 22:06, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 04/04/2018 01:35 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 21:28 Adam Williamson, >> wrote: >> >>> This rather begs the question of whether there are any modules which >>> only work *with python 2*

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 19:54 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:36 PM Przemek Klosowski < > przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > >> On 04/04/2018 01:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > The short version is that Modules *are* distribution packages. They're >> > just distributio

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 20:26 Adam Williamson, wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 11:15 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth wrote: > > > On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: > > > > I should probably add that the actua

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 21:28 Adam Williamson, wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 10:51 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 04/04/2018 10:46 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > On 04/04/2018 09:21 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > > > ...snip... > > > &g

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 18:39 Kevin Fenzi, wrote: > On 04/04/2018 07:51 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > ...snip... > > Today I've spent time between $realwork getting my ansible plays > > updated to handle F28 (thanks for dropping python2-* early guys!) and > > have been i

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 18:52 Kevin Fenzi, wrote: > On 04/04/2018 10:46 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 04/04/2018 09:21 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > >> Can we please get some consistency here? > >> > >> I noted today tha

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, 10:59 Petr Viktorin, wrote: > On 03/24/18 15:28, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Petr Viktorin wrote: > >> As with any orphaning, that leaves two options: > >> - someone else agrees now to take over in 2020 (keeping in mind this is > >> a security-critical package and will be abandon

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:37 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James Hog

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:51 William Moreno, wrote: > > > 2018-04-04 9:43 GMT-06:00 Randy Barlow : > >> On 04/04/2018 11:37 AM, William Moreno wrote: >> > A well documented setp can help users to move from OC to NC. >> >> James actually wrote a nice blog post about migration: >> >> https://www.hogar

Re: Local test VMs (was: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud)

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:11 Tim Landscheidt, wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > > > […] > > > FIrst thing when I fired up my test harness was that F28 has changed, > > and thus broken, kickstart for the user option compared to a standard > > minimal that worked goin

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:27 Randy Barlow, wrote: > Another thought on this topic: > > It's probably a lot of work to maintain OwnCloud and NextCloud, and it > sounds like a lot of people have moved to NextCloud or intend to in the > future. Would it help if we went ahead and retired OwnCloud so we

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: > > > Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James Hogarth: > > Last bit to debug before I can start testing an update of OC and NC is > > why my automated setup explodes with: > > > > PHP Fatal error: Declaration

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 April 2018 at 14:48, William Moreno wrote: > > > 2018-04-03 13:11 GMT-06:00 Stephen Gallagher : >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek >> wrote: >>> >>> I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been >>> shipped in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: >> I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped >> in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, >> it is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 Thread James Hogarth
On 4 April 2018 at 08:38, Benson Muite wrote: > >> >> So, I don't think we can update the package from 10 to 13, thus breaking >> all user installations. >> >> I see 2 possible way >> >> The classical one >> >> - create nextcloud11, nextcloud12 and nextcloud13 packages and also >> future versions,

Re: Starting Boost 1.66.0 rebuilds in f28-boost side tag

2018-01-23 Thread James Hogarth
On 23 Jan 2018 15:39, "Jonathan Wakely" wrote: As happens for most releases, I'm updating Boost in rawhide and rebuilding the affected packages in a side tag (f28-boost). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F28Boost166 If you maintain a package that depends on Boost please coordinate any upd

Re: Exploring the idea of CentOS/RHEL branches in dist-git [was Re: Python3 will be in next major RHEL release, please adjust %if statements accordingly]

2018-01-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 January 2018 at 17:13, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 08:18:42AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> - Better Git frontend for CentOS >> - Possibility to submit PRs against RHEL branches >> - Easy to see changes from RHEL and Fedora (and CentOS). >> What are some others? > > I'd lik

Re: Proposal to remove NetworkManager from Core group

2018-01-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 January 2018 at 11:44, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:48:52AM +0100, Thomas Haller wrote: >> When you say "Core" group, what are the practical effects of removing >> it? You can uninstall NetworkManager on Fedora today. Do you mean, it >> should not be installed by defa

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Rename "nobody" user

2018-01-11 Thread James Hogarth
On 11 January 2018 at 01:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:26:24AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:56:46AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> >> Am 10.01.2

Re: F28 System Wide Change: Kerberos in Python modernization

2018-01-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 January 2018 at 09:35, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 09:23 +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >> >> >> == Detailed Description == >> Replace older, clunkier, less user-friendly python interfaces to >> Kerberos with python-gssapi. python-gssapi uses the GSSAPI interface, >> which is wide

Re: Modularity questions for "traditional" RPM packaging

2017-11-14 Thread James Hogarth
On 14 November 2017 at 09:50, Marek Skalický wrote: > Christopher píše v St 08. 11. 2017 v 22:33 +: >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:27 PM Igor Gnatenko > oject.org> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 18:58 +, Christopher wrote: >> > > Hi, I've been reading a lot lately about Fedora modularity,

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235 cancelled

2017-10-27 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 Oct 2017 22:37, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" wrote: Hi, two weeks ago I signalled a plan to update systemd to v235 in F27. I have now given up on this. Reasons: there were some issues in the implementation of the DynamicUser feature. Handling this took some time and F27 entered the final

Re: NSS Default File Format SQL in Fedora 28

2017-10-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 25 October 2017 at 16:16, Kai Engert wrote: > On 25.10.2017 15:22, James Hogarth wrote: >> There's always process if something is high enough level to be >> considered a "Change" >> >> Please follow the appropriate process to have this included as a &

Re: NSS Default File Format SQL in Fedora 28

2017-10-25 Thread James Hogarth
On 25 October 2017 at 10:45, Kai Engert wrote: > TL;DR: The change originally planned for Fedora 27 will now be done for > Rawhide Fedora 28, probably tomorrow. > > > We had previously announced to change the NSS crypto library to use the > new sql file format by default. Please see the attached m

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-20 Thread James Hogarth
On 20 October 2017 at 12:41, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:07 PM, James Hogarth > wrote: >> I do need sleep at some point ;) > > :-O > >> Ive pulled the commits and kicked off the build in the COPR >> >> It'll be there in

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-20 Thread James Hogarth
On 20 October 2017 at 12:07, James Hogarth wrote: > On 19 October 2017 at 19:17, Alexander Ploumistos > wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Mátyás Selmeci >> wrote: >>> Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on copr.fedorainfracloud.org

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-20 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 October 2017 at 19:17, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Mátyás Selmeci wrote: >> Where is the COPR? I searched for "firefox" on copr.fedorainfracloud.org but >> did not find it. > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jhogarth/firefox57/ > > Also, firefox-5

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 Oct 2017 18:26, "James Hogarth" wrote: On 18 Oct 2017 13:21, "James Hogarth" wrote: On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 Oct 2017 13:21, "James Hogarth" wrote: On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what it would be) > to add legacy extension ca

Re: "New" developer here

2017-10-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 October 2017 at 10:11, Will Crawford wrote: > I've actually been using Red Hat, then Fedora, for ~20 years now, but > I'm signing up to package things, I'd like to put some more R packages > in the repo, licences permitting. > > Please get in touch if you're already working in this area, I w

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 Oct 2017 17:40, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:33 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > And even if we hypothetically forked Firefox (as that is what it would be) > to add legacy extension capability back it would mark a significant > divergence with ups

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-17 Thread James Hogarth
eloper version to assist in the migration and porting >> etc >> > >> > As of FF57 beta WebExtension only is supported and legacy is killed off. >> >> I think the whole *idea* was to suggest making the option available >> again in Fedora's build of

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-16 Thread James Hogarth
On 16 Oct 2017 9:57 pm, "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 01:45:09PM +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hello, > > Now that FESCo has ruled that "firefox 57beta is removed from f25/f26 > updates-testing but stays in f27/rawhide", could we at least keep > getting new builds in

Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?

2017-10-16 Thread James Hogarth
On 16 October 2017 at 14:58, John Florian wrote: > On Sun, 2017-10-15 at 09:23 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > people are going to notice is the improved performance and cleaner > interface. > > > Yes! Because of this thread's original message, I pulled 57 into F26 eager > to try it out (on $day

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-16 Thread James Hogarth
On 16 October 2017 at 10:18, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 10/16/2017 11:10 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > >> On 16 October 2017 at 10:00, Martin Stransky wrote: >> >> On 10/15/2017 03:58 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 3:45 AM

Re: Updates for Firefox 57 beta

2017-10-16 Thread James Hogarth
On 16 October 2017 at 10:00, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 10/15/2017 03:58 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Alexander Ploumistos < >> alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >>> >>> Now that FESCo has ruled that "firefox 57beta is removed from f25/f26 >>> updat

Re: Do I need Epoch: for downgrades in rawhide?

2017-10-16 Thread James Hogarth
On 16 October 2017 at 08:13, Till Hofmann wrote: > > > On 10/15/2017 08:08 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On 10/15/2017 12:34 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> I would suggest that you submit librealsense1 as a separate package, > >> instead. The applications that use the older versions should probably > >

Re: GCL and SELinux: help requested

2017-10-13 Thread James Hogarth
On 14 Oct 2017 12:08 am, "Adam Williamson" wrote: On Fri, 2017-10-13 at 15:58 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 10/13/2017 03:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-10-13 at 14:53 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > It's really hard to say what the trouble > > > is... are there to few of them? O

Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?

2017-10-11 Thread James Hogarth
On 11 Oct 2017 4:48 pm, "Pierre-Yves Chibon" wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 04:34:52PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: >On 11 October 2017 at 16:23, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Till Hofmann > wrote: > >The very fi

Re: Why is Fx 57 in Updates Testing?

2017-10-11 Thread James Hogarth
On 11 October 2017 at 16:23, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Till Hofmann > wrote: > >> >> >> The very first sentence of the page you linked above: >> >>> The updates-testing repository, also referred to as Test Updates, >>> contains updates scheduled to be released f

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-09 Thread James Hogarth
On 9 October 2017 at 11:30, Solomon Peachy wrote: > On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 10:17:31PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > The killing of logged out user processes, without record and with > > no option to disable it after compilation in release 230 was another > > one. > > Oh, that's utter, unff

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-07 Thread James Hogarth
On 7 October 2017 at 13:14, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 09:19:17AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > Although personally I have no specific objections and indeed plan to use > > the IP accounting stuff on a bunch of units... since we're already

Re: plan to update F27 to systemd-235

2017-10-07 Thread James Hogarth
On 6 Oct 2017 16:08, "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" wrote: Hi, systemd 235 was released today. A large number of issues was closed upstream, including many bug fixes, documentation updates, and long-standing RFEs. There are some new features, but relatively few entirely new features or changes in

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-10-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 2 October 2017 at 03:26, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > El vie, 22-09-2017 a las 15:25 -0500, Michael Catanzaro escribió: > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Chris Adams > > wrote: > > > On what grounds? There is nothing in the Fedora guidelines that > > > makes > > > package maintainers beholden

Re: [HEADS-UP] PHP 7.2 in rawhide next week

2017-10-03 Thread James Hogarth
On 3 Oct 2017 07:16, "Remi Collet" wrote: Le 29/09/2017 à 16:11, Remi Collet a écrit : > Hi, > > I plan to build PHP 7.2.0RC3 in rawhide next week, so we'll have a lot > of time to ensure everything is ok before F28 is branched. "remi's php-7.2.0~RC3-1.fc28 tagged into f28 by autopen" :)

Re: Package add request

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 27 Sep 2017 04:50, "Jason L Tibbitts III" wrote: > "HV" == Hedayat Vatankhah writes: HV> I'd say to stick with upstream naming, which is the Fedora HV> way. Changing the names to lower case is a must in Debian, they HV> simply don't allow upper case letters to be in package names. The HV

Re: Removal of dependencies on net-tools

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 September 2017 at 19:43, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 26.09.2017 um 20:39 schrieb James Hogarth: > >> >> >> On 26 Sep 2017 6:37 pm, "Chris Adams" > li...@cmadams.net>> wrote: >> >> Once upon a time, James Hogarth >

Re: Fwd: Removal of dependencies on net-tools

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 Sep 2017 6:37 pm, "Chris Adams" wrote: Once upon a time, James Hogarth said: > You're correct that this isn't covering BR situations but I didn't want the > scope of this to blow out to the less reasonable. > > First phase let's get the pac

Re: Fwd: Removal of dependencies on net-tools

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
On 26 Sep 2017 5:41 pm, "Miro Hrončok" wrote: On 26.9.2017 15:56, James Hogarth wrote: > Hi, > > So net-tools has been deprecated a long time at this point with numerous > known issues - especially as we enter an IPv6 world. > > There was an initial discussion

Fwd: Removal of dependencies on net-tools

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
Hi, So net-tools has been deprecated a long time at this point with numerous known issues - especially as we enter an IPv6 world. There was an initial discussion a few months back as can be reviewed here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fe doraproject.org/thread/OATM2PQ

Fwd: Removal of dependencies on net-tools

2017-09-26 Thread James Hogarth
Hi, So net-tools has been deprecated a long time at this point with numerous known issues - especially as we enter an IPv6 world. There was an initial discussion a few months back as can be reviewed here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists. fedoraproject.org/thread/OATM2PQ

Re: [Fedora-php-devel-list] Re: Fedora 27, httpd in thread mode by default, need for ZTS php modules

2017-09-25 Thread James Hogarth
On 25 Sep 2017 11:23 am, "Remi Collet" wrote: Additional information: php-fpm is now the default configured way to enable PHP with apache in F27+ I.e. mod_php for ZTS is still provided but not loaded by default, as unsupported by upstream. Remi. P.S. https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms

Re: State of Sparkeshare in Fedora

2017-09-24 Thread James Hogarth
On 24 September 2017 at 16:29, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 2:09 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > >> Based on the fedora update policy and the acknowledged breaking changes >> in 2.0 we should only really update to the most recent 1.x in F27 and

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 22 September 2017 at 15:02, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 22 September 2017 at 14:50, Gary Gatling wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM, James Hogarth >> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>> Pretty sure the last testing

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 22 September 2017 at 14:50, Gary Gatling wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > >> >>> >> Pretty sure the last testing I did with the details form Hans's blog[0] >> the behaviour was that if the nvidia driver f

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 22 September 2017 at 14:34, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 09:22:08AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > repo is supported and it needs to not break. We've been super super > lenient > > > > That's a completely untenable position. There is only one kernel for > > all the Editions

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 15 September 2017 at 11:00, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 13 September 2017 at 01:39, James Hogarth > wrote: > >> >> >> On 12 Sep 2017 10:49 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: >> >> On 09/05/2017 09:41 AM, Laura Abbott wrote: >> >>&g

Re: State of Sparkeshare in Fedora

2017-09-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 22 Sep 2017 4:46 am, "Luya Tshimbalanga" wrote: On 21/09/17 08:02 AM, James Hogarth wrote: On 21 September 2017 at 07:17, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Sparkleshare package is currently behind upstream which just reach > 2.0[1][2] > The maintainer was contacted for updati

Re: State of Sparkeshare in Fedora

2017-09-21 Thread James Hogarth
On 21 September 2017 at 07:17, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Sparkleshare package is currently behind upstream which just reach > 2.0[1][2] > The maintainer was contacted for updating the package with current broken > dependency below on Fedora 27 and above: > > Problem: package sparkleshare-1.2.0-

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-15 Thread James Hogarth
On 13 September 2017 at 01:39, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 12 Sep 2017 10:49 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: > > On 09/05/2017 09:41 AM, Laura Abbott wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been >> built

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-12 Thread James Hogarth
On 12 Sep 2017 10:49 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: On 09/05/2017 09:41 AM, Laura Abbott wrote: > Hi, > > Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been > built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be > following the same upgrade procedure as in the past. F25 and F26

Re: Fedora Modular Server: status and game plan?

2017-09-08 Thread James Hogarth
On 8 September 2017 at 16:04, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 09/08/2017 10:51 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > Surely (c) would make a mockery of change system. What would not make a > > mockery of the change system would be to invoke the contingency plan. > > > > Except there doesn't seem to be one: > > > >

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 23:43, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:27 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > > I do suggest popping a comment in the spec at the appropriate point > > explaining why for anyone that runs into it and

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 22:17, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you James, this did feel like the proper course of action. > ___ > > No worries ... special cases do come up and it's important to be responsive to upstream in

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 22:40, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: > > > FWIW, you can just download the F27 kernel, kernel-core, > > kernel-modules (optionally extras), and 'sudo dnf install *rpm' in > > that same download directory and it will install it

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 18:26, Laura Abbott wrote: > On 09/05/2017 09:59 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > > > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" labb...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Kernel 4.13 was released this

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: Hi, Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be following the same upgrade procedure as in the past. F25 and F26 will get rebased to 4.13 after a few stable releases, t

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 00:27, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > About ten days ago I asked a question on this list, but I guess on one > hand it was too specific, while on the other it coincided with people > travelling to Flock or being on vacation. As I rea

Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-24 Thread James Hogarth
On 24 August 2017 at 10:33, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 13:58 +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote: > >> Hello Fedora devels and users, > >> > >> more than three years ago, the same topic started discussion if we > >> want > >> this package in Fedora or not and how [1]. The discussion res

Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-24 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 Aug 2017 4:42 pm, "Jakub Jelen" wrote: On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 13:58 +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote: > Hello Fedora devels and users, > > more than three years ago, the same topic started discussion if we > want > this package in Fedora or not and how [1]. The discussion resulted > mostly in flames

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-08-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 27 June 2017 at 12:40, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 27.6.2017 v 10:41 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) napsal(a): > > On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? &g

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-06-27 Thread James Hogarth
On 27 Jun 2017 9:42 am, "Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems)" < vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com> wrote: On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? > Most people do hear from kanarip at unde

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-06-23 Thread James Hogarth
On 23 June 2017 at 12:33, Haïkel wrote: > 2017-06-23 12:39 GMT+02:00 James Hogarth : >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? >> >> I've been attempting to contact for this bug: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.

Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-06-23 Thread James Hogarth
Hi, Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? I've been attempting to contact for this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593 If there's no response in one week an issue will be filed with FESCo following the nonrepsonsive maintainer policy to review the ownership

Re: The future of the packager group for dist-git

2017-06-03 Thread James Hogarth
On 3 Jun 2017 8:33 am, "Pierre-Yves Chibon" wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 08:52:22PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 09:42:48PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > With the deprecation of pkgdb2, pagure will make it even easier to give someone > > access to a

Re: Non responsive maintainer fab

2017-05-23 Thread James Hogarth
On 23 May 2017 at 09:17, Vascom wrote: > Yes, I am tried few days ago. He is not response. > Give him a time, life gets busy at times and we are but volunteers. The process to follow for a nonresponsive maintainer is outlined here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_packag

Re: dnf bodhi plugin

2017-05-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 May 2017 at 16:48, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:44:57AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234930 >> >> It's my understanding this functioanlity is already being worked on in >> DNF 2.0, to match the yum functionality of "su

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

2017-05-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 May 2017 at 15:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 05/18/2017 09:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 18 May 2017 at 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> That's a perfectly reasonable request. I think it's fair to say that if no >>> central user management

Re: Wild changes in nsswitch.conf

2017-05-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 May 2017 at 14:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 05/18/2017 09:24 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Jakub Hrozek wrote: >>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:20:49AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Yes, authconfig is *not* a good tool for managing centralized

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 May 2017 at 14:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> That's fine Nico, and I'll remind you I'm not in any way proposing >> removal of net-tools from the repositories. > > Cool. "Deprecated" can often imply that the toolkit is due to be > removed, so I personally just wanted to point out some sp

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 May 2017 at 11:03, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:31 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: >> >> >> On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote: >> >> On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote: >>> >>> Once upon a tim

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 May 2017 at 09:16, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:29:42PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It was pointed out on IRC to me tonight that there are actually a >> reasonable number of packages that still depend on net-tools[0]. >

Re: Deprecated net-tools? Mass bug filing?

2017-05-17 Thread James Hogarth
On 17 May 2017 8:24 pm, "Tom Hughes" wrote: On 17/05/17 20:15, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ian Pilcher said: > >> Removing RPM dependencies on the net-tools package and deciding whether >> it should be installed by default are two separate (albeit related) >> discussions. >> > > The

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