Re: Non-responsive maintainer check for hguemar

2022-08-08 Thread Haïkel
Hi, send me your FAS account and I'll transfer ownership to you of pyperclip. You're welcome to contact me directly through email (I'm currently in sick leave but I'll browse email from time to time). Regards, H. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fe

Re: Fwd: Orphaning some packages (C++/Gtkmm)

2021-02-10 Thread Haïkel
Le mer. 10 févr. 2021 à 18:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit : > > Hi, > > In case you didn't see bcotton's mail about pp status, please do. > > Zbyszek I did, it helped deciding to actively reduce the scope. Regards, H. ___ devel mailing list --

Fwd: Orphaning some packages (C++/Gtkmm)

2021-02-10 Thread Haïkel
Hello, due to long-standing health issues, I'd like to focus on a smaller set of packages and continue mentoring new packagers which helped me to stay afloat during grim times. Here's a list of packages that have no co-maintainers and are required for other projects. - cairomm - gconfmm26 - libgla

Re: 15 nonresponsive maintainers

2019-07-25 Thread Haïkel
I'm still around, I had a kidney failure recently hence not able to answer. Regards. H. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedo

Re: Possibly non-responsive maintainer: hguemar

2018-09-17 Thread Haïkel
Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 08:12, Mattia Verga a écrit : > > > Le dim. 16 sept. 2018 à 11:27, Fabio Valentini > a écrit : > > > > > > The policy mention that you have to try contacting the maintainer > > *first*, you never sent me an email or pinged me on irc. > > I don't like this kind of passive-a

Re: Possibly non-responsive maintainer: hguemar

2018-09-16 Thread Haïkel
/show_bug.cgi?id=1605479 Needs a co-maintainer > gtksourceviewmm3: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1604292 This one has co-maintainers and was actively attended by the desktop team. > glom: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1604130 > Co-maintainers are welcome, o

Re: broken package needs attention: libgda

2018-06-11 Thread Haïkel
2018-06-10 22:46 GMT+02:00 Sérgio Basto : > On Sun, 2018-06-10 at 18:27 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The "libgda" package is quite broken in fedora, which is impacting >> dependent programs. >> >> - The last successful build of libgda was for the fedora 24 (!) mass >> rebuild. No more

New SIG: OpenStack

2017-10-09 Thread Haïkel
Hi, I'd like to announce the beginning of a new SIG: OpenStack. During these last years, I've been more or less maintaining OpenStack clients, and I'd like to pass over that (burden) to a SIG. OpenStack clients/libraries are quite tied to each other, so it is difficult to maintain them without pr

Re: Complicated problem: kiwi and kiwi-gtk conflict

2017-08-23 Thread Haïkel
2017-08-23 14:44 GMT+02:00 Miroslav Suchý : > Dne 23.8.2017 v 11:40 Neal Gompa napsal(a): >> >> However, there's a problem. It seems python-kiwi already exists in >> Fedora[4], and it's the kiwi-gtk framework[5]. >> >> I'm not sure what to do in this scenario. I've requested from upstream >> to ren

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-06-23 Thread Haïkel
2017-06-23 12:39 GMT+02:00 James Hogarth : > Hi, > > Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? > > I've been attempting to contact for this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593 > > If there's no response in one week an issue will be filed with FESCo > following t

Re: Retiring Packages with Broken Dependencies in branched (2017-06-12)

2017-06-13 Thread Haïkel
2017-06-13 0:38 GMT+02:00 : > In preparation for the Final Freeze on 2017-06-27 Release > Engineering will retire all packages in Branched with broken dependencies and > all packages depending on these. If you get this e-mail directly this affects > at least one of your packages. Please fix the br

Re: Self Introduction: Stephen Kitt

2017-02-27 Thread Haïkel
2017-02-23 18:48 GMT+01:00 Stephen Kitt : > Hi everyone, > > As part of the "join the package collection maintainers" process, I'd like to > introduce myself — I've just submitted my first review request > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1426333). > > I'm a long-standing free software

Re: MongoDB in EPEL7

2016-10-31 Thread Haïkel
2016-10-31 14:25 GMT+01:00 Marek Skalický : > Hi, > current situation: > EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x > EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x > > Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is > supported only to 2.6. > Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are > rel

Re: FESCo - July 2016 Elections - Result announcement

2016-07-26 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-26 4:58 GMT+02:00 Jan Kurik : > Greetings, all! > > The elections for FESCo - July 2016 have concluded, and the results > are shown below. > > FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. > A total of 196 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate > could accumulate up to 980 votes (196 * 5). > > The r

Re: Self introduction: Zygmunt Krynicki

2016-07-23 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-23 10:03 GMT+02:00 Zygmunt Krynicki : > Hello > > My name is Zygmunt (zyga) Krynicki. I’ve been using various distributions of > Linux for the past 15 years. I helped create the Linaro’s LAVA test system, > Ubuntu’s Checkbox hardware testing toolkit. Most recently I’m involved with > Sna

Re: Snaps and Fedora

2016-07-22 Thread Haïkel
http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/contributors 2016-07-23 2:46 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > Hello all, > > Over the course of this week, I've been involved in the first Snap > sprint focused on making the Snap system broadly useful and workable > across a wide variety of Linux distributions. While I obvious

Re: LBNL BSD licence

2016-07-05 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-05 11:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Love : > I've realized that the licence for a package I've recently had reviewed > is actually "LBNL BSD" > , not BSD3 with a DoE > disclaimer, as I thought. (Mea culpa, but licensecheck didn't spot it.) > > Anyway,

Re: Anyone know how to contact maintainer Salimma?

2016-06-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-30 4:59 GMT+02:00 Avram Lubkin : > > I've been trying to contact Salimma, Michel Alexandre Salim, for the last > month. I've been trying to update python-sphinx which hasn't had an update > since last fall. Worked through all of the issues, but maintainer hasn't > responded to commit reques

Re: Packages seeking new Point Of Contact

2016-06-28 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-28 18:49 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > Greetings. > > Per: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1589 > > I have orphaned bjohnson's packages. > > Please do take point of contact for any of these you wish to help > maintain for the Fedora Project. > > rpms/conduit -- A synchronization solut

"Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2016-06-24)"

2016-06-24 Thread Haïkel
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-06-24) === Meeting started by number80 at 16:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-06-24/fesco.2016-06-24-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary

"Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-06-24)"

2016-06-24 Thread Haïkel
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-06-24 16:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below c

Re: Self Introduction: Oliver Haessler

2016-06-14 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-14 16:45 GMT+02:00 Oliver Haessler : > Hi everyone, > > my name is Oliver and I am working for Red Hat in the internal IT department. > I am responsible for the internal RHEL desktop build we use for our employees. > I maintain extra config packages that we add to the existing Red Hat > En

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: asaf

2016-05-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-30 12:55 GMT+02:00 gil : > > > Il 30/05/2016 12:09, Haïkel ha scritto: >> >> 2016-05-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Izdebski : >>> >>> On 05/30/2016 10:01 AM, gil wrote: >>>> >>>> But until now I have not had any response

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: asaf

2016-05-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Izdebski : > On 05/30/2016 10:01 AM, gil wrote: >> But until now I have not had any response from the maintainer, asaf >> (Asaf Shakarchi a...@redhat.com ) . > > This email address seems to be inactive. > Asaf left Red Hat now six years ago, and he last logged in

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-18 21:39 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > it's simple: apache (httpd) has gid/uid 48 likely before you did knew about > Fedora nad you can rely on that on every Fdora/RHEL/CentOS system out there > > *that* is consistent UID/GID > That is irrelevant to the current discussion, and you're bel

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-18 20:28 GMT+02:00 Florian Weimer : > On 05/18/2016 08:08 PM, Haïkel wrote: >> >> If you need to reserve statically id/gid, you're likely solving the >> wrong problem. > > > Static UIDs and GIDs are required for reproducible installations which give &g

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
If you need to reserve statically id/gid, you're likely solving the wrong problem. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainer - ndipanov

2016-04-25 Thread Haïkel
2016-04-25 18:00 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > Greetings, we've been told that the email addresses > for this package maintainer is no longer valid. I'm starting the > unresponsive maintainer policy to find out if they are still interested > in maintaining their packages (and if so, have them update t

Re: Call for help contacting contributors

2016-03-31 Thread Haïkel
2016-03-31 0:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:55:54 +0100 > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Packagers, members of the fedorabugs group and people having a >> 'watchbugzilla' ACL in pkgdb must have a bugzilla account attached to >> the email they set in the Fedora

Re: HEADS UP: systemd package split

2016-03-05 Thread Haïkel
2016-03-04 23:36 GMT+01:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > Hi, > > I finally pushed the split of the systemd package to Rawhide and F24 today > [https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes/systemd_package_split]. > If you upgrade with dnf you should see something like this: > Installing: >

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2016-03-04)

2016-03-04 Thread Haïkel
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-03-04) === Meeting started by number80 at 17:00:11 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-04/fesco.2016-03-04-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-03-04)

2016-03-04 Thread Haïkel
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-03-04 17:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below c

Re: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26

2016-02-27 Thread Haïkel
I took zsh-lovers. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: update mercurial to 3.7.1 in rawhide and F24

2016-02-25 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-25 16:58 GMT+01:00 Neal Becker : > I'd like to update to latest mercurial. I built 3.7.1 in rawhide, and > AFAICT there's no problem using it with tortoisehg-3.7.1-fc24. > > I'd like to update mercurial in F24 - AFAIK there should not be any > compatibility issues. > > Any objections? I'd

Re: CVE-2015-7547 fix for Fedora 21

2016-02-19 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-19 3:35 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler : > Hi, > > I have built an updated glibc package for Fedora 21, with (alleged) fixes > for the following security issues: > * CVE-2015-7547 (CRITICAL) > * CVE-2015-1781 > * CVE-2015-8777 > * glibc PR17269 > * glibc PR18032 > backported from Fedora 22 or forwa

Re: Fedora AMI build process

2016-02-16 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-16 15:02 GMT+01:00 Jon Kent : > Hi, > > I've been trying to see how we build Fedora AMIs but am starting having not > luck with finding documents on the buiild process. If someone could throw me > a link it would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jon > I suggest that you contact the Fedor

Re: Python packages not compliant to Fedora guidelines

2016-02-06 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-06 9:44 GMT+01:00 Germano Massullo : > In past days I filled many review requests for various python libraries, in > order to submit python-netdiff [1] and python-django-netjsongraph [2]. > During this process, I noticed that a lot of python packages are not > compliant to Fedora Guidelines

Re: On packager motivation

2016-02-04 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-03 17:04 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Wakely : > On 03/02/16 08:44 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > >> 1. Demotivating packagers >> >> I know a number of companies have experimented with "ownership-free" >> models of code development, but they are able to offer incentives that >> Fedora cannot offer, such

Re: How to fix a package name with wrong capitalization?

2016-01-16 Thread Haïkel
2016-01-16 16:10 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler : > Hi, > > in the following review: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285042 > a package was reviewed and approved under the name "kpmcore", which matches > how upstream calls its tarballs. However, the subject line incorrectly > spelled the nam

Unresponsive maintainer procedure for nsjae

2016-01-11 Thread Haïkel
Hi, I'd like to start the unresponsive maintainer procedure for nsaje. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/nsaje/ Nec is a former Red Hat intern and Alan tried to contact him more than one month ago. He also requested package ACLs for python-kazoo without any answer. https://admin.fed

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork

2016-01-04 Thread Haïkel
2016-01-04 15:15 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer : > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Suds_Jurko_Fork >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Scott Talbert >> >> Change the python-suds package to use the fork m

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-12-18 0:58 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : >> "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones writes: > > RWMJ> Couldn't it use inotify (or whatever we're using these days to > RWMJ> detect filesystem changes)? So when you drop in the unit file, > RWMJ> systemd notices and reloads. > > Well, the point is t

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-12-02)

2015-12-02 Thread Haïkel
Due to a business travel, I'll be missing this week meeting. I'll make sure to review all the tickets though. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-18 1:08 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > tl; dr: I have submitted the following RFE for pkgdb: > https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/issues/274 > Please add comments there if you have any. > > I know I'm not the only provenpackager to have applied a bugfix to > someone's package only

Re: Guidelines unclear for unretire of a branch

2015-11-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-17 15:02 GMT+01:00 Richard Shaw : > I would like to unretire the epel7 branch of LibRaw, per the guidelines[1] > this woudl require a re-review, but that would only make sense if the whole > package was retired, not an epel branch. > > Why would we re-review something that still have active

Re: Quick proposal for making packager sponsorship slightly easier

2015-11-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-17 2:42 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > I recently filed https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1499 with the > goal of making the process just a bit simpler for new packagers. The text of > my proposal follows. Please make sure that substantial comments are > made on the ticket to ensu

Re: What's the current status of mp3-licensing issues?

2015-11-15 Thread Haïkel
Hi, You should have contacted fedora-legal list on that topic. Besides, determining when a patent expires is not that easy and Fedora Legal is backed by skilled lawyers that said the contrary. Unless Fedora Legal confirms your theory (which I doubt), it's useless to discuss this on this list. Reg

Re: bodhi should strip subjects

2015-11-06 Thread Haïkel
Again, what you're saying makes sense but if you don't file tickets, it won't get fixed. Here's bodhi bug tracker. https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Co

Re: systemd package bloat

2015-11-06 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-06 16:35 GMT+01:00 Reindl Harald : > it's one thing that there is a common tarball containing everything, but 26 > MB, 821 files including /usr/bin/machinectl and > /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-machined useless on tiny virtual machines is too > much and the beast is growing slightly > > F21: 22

Re: Elections - November 2015

2015-11-05 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-05 11:29 GMT+01:00 Jan Kurik : > Hi, > > as Fedora 23 has been successfully released, we are starting with > preparations for Elections. You can find schedule for these Elections > at [1]. > > Currently I am aware of the following teams we are going to organize > Elections for: > > * FAmSCo

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-28)

2015-10-28 Thread Haïkel
Sorry for missing the meeting but as I said during the previous meeting, I'll be in Japan until 11/3 due to the OpenStack summit. It was quite late for me. I'll also miss next week meeting as I'll be flying back home. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: patches

2015-10-19 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-19 13:00 GMT+02:00 Viktor Jancik : > Hi, > > As per the Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > > I am writing here to ask you, if any of you know how to get in contact with > T.C. Hollingsworth? > > It a

Re: Looking for co-maintainers: zookeeper, bookkeeper, curator

2015-10-15 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-14 17:53 GMT+02:00 Christopher : > I'm currently a co-maintainer on ZooKeeper. I know there's some bugs that > I've overlooked these last few months. I intend to try to address some of > them this week, but having another, esp. an upstream maintainer involved, > would be nice. > Awesome, p

Re: Ansible 2.0 in Fedora: review request for python-shade (and a copr)

2015-10-14 Thread Haïkel
Under review, thanks for preparing ansible 2.0 landing :) Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Looking for co-maintainers: zookeeper, bookkeeper, curator

2015-10-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-14 16:21 GMT+02:00 Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés : > > On Oct 14, 2015 7:14 AM, "Tim St. Clair" wrote: >> >> I intend to orphan, and I simply don't have the bandwidth to maintain >> these packages. >> > > I am a ZooKeeper committer so I'd be happy to take over these (haven't > officially maintain

Re: Query: %cmake not doing out-of-tree builds?

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-11 2:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > > I pretty much wound up doing that, but I wanted to know if there was a > reason for not having it built into the macro like Mageia and SUSE do. > > Fedora's %cmake macros came first many years ago before Suse's version. Again: 1. it has little value for

Re: ipset unmaintained

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
Done, fails to build in rawhide due to an unrelated ARM builder failure. > DEBUG util.py:393: Config error: releasever not given and can not be > detected from the installroot. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/3255/11403255/root.log F23 update submitted. -- devel mailing list dev

Re: ipset unmaintained

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 22:37 GMT+02:00 Xose Vazquez Perez : > Hi, > > Can anyone update it ? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1145913 > > -thanks- > Please start the unresponsive maintainer process. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Meanwhile, I'll update it in rawhide.

Re: Query: %cmake not doing out-of-tree builds?

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 22:25 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > Hello all, > > Over the last few weeks, I've been working on a number of packages that use > CMake for the build system for various distros, and I've noticed something > rather peculiar. Of all the distros I've built packages for (Fedora/CentOS, > openSUSE,

Re: Self Introduction: Nuno Dias

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 21:38 GMT+02:00 Nuno Dias : > Hi, > > Following the procedure from "Join the package collection > maintainers", let me introduce myself, > > I usually create rpms to my use, and after some years doing that, I > realised that maybe I should contribute, I use Linux every day, I > starte

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 12:17 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > Am 10.10.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Haïkel: >> >> Engineering is not science > > > really? > >> as previously stated, it's about compromises > > > well, that can end in something like "the clever

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 1:12 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Ian Malone wrote: >> I'm actually all for unbundling, but going it alone is not guaranteed >> to be simple. "Oh, hey, that deprecated function has been removed." > > Then you try to port the application to the new APIs, and if it's not > possible, you reve

Re: "Unbundling SIG" was [Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)]

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 1:31 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Matthew Miller wrote: >> When the packager has reasoned belief that debundling is actively bad >> in some way for this package, I think we should trust the packager. I >> know not everyone on this thread agrees, but in general, Fedora >> *always* places a

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-09 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 16:20 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > > A SIG dedicated to going through our packages and "systemizing" them (e.g. > unbundling them) would probably be a really good idea, especially with the > new rules. A group of packagers experienced in this could be solicited to > help with trickier packag

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-09 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 1:17 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Haïkel wrote: >> Not that I'm 100% happy with the way it happened but this has been a >> very long-lived topic. To some, it'll be a hasty decision, to others, >> it's already a late one. > > There'

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 0:42 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Not that I don't agree that we should pursue unbundling whenever >> possible, but I don't remember any contract or terms that explicitly said >> *packagers* do the work of *developers* to re-architect >> applications/services/etc to do

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 0:08 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > On Wednesday, 07 October 2015 at 21:17, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Meeting summary >> --- > [...] >> * #1483 Decision on bundling policy in the Fedora Package Collection >> (sgallagh, 18:11:40) >> * LINK: http://paste.fed

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-08 10:55 GMT+02:00 Tomas Mraz : > On Čt, 2015-10-08 at 00:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > * #1483 Decision on bundling policy in the Fedora Package Collection >> > (sgallagh, 18:11:40) >> > * LINK: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/276064/44243383/ is sgallag

Re: [EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-24 Thread Haïkel
Looks like we do have some progress on that topic :) So plan B would be: 1. automate EPEL rebuilds in CBS 2. have CI run automated test suite over EPEL rebuilds Correct me if I'm wrong but we would be ok to enable CentOS folks to fix EPEL packaging. It would be easier if we do create an epel-prov

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-18 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-15 13:02 GMT+02:00 Ralf Corsepius : > > a) We don't have any such tracking system. If maintainers followed FPC recommendations on that matter, it will be very easy to have one. I have in my TODO to implement one for CentOS Cloud SIG to track security issues for some horrible packages > b

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 14:38 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > > This case doesn't automatically mean that we should allow bundling. > Especially, if there are multiple consumers of the library in question. > A recent example is kwsys, which is bundled in every project released > by kitware. See bug

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 13:17 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley : > On 09/13/2015 09:23 PM, Haïkel wrote: >> I'm not speaking about PHP, most of the upstream I deal with >> are python developers. Bad habits are rather spreading than >> regressing. > > We're not going to solv

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 12:45 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > > and much more important: > > if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like > installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long > because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle anyt

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-13 20:40 GMT+02:00 Matěj Cepl : > On 2015-09-13, 13:13 GMT, Haïkel wrote: >> But, distros have lost the influence they used to have then, we're in the >> cloud/container era where people bundle everything ... > > And they won't retake it by giving up. Then t

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-13 10:16 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley : > > The development model followed by much of the upstream world is > immature: it may not even be repeatable, let alone well-defined. > Shoehorning upstream's mess of bundled requirements is a very useful > service that we can provide to our users. By beh

Re: Rpmbuild SPEC file - variable declaration

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
I might add that fedora-review could be run on local spec + srpm and will warn you about these kinds of things. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: No autocomplete for new package in bodhi 2.0?

2015-09-12 Thread Haïkel
There's autocompletion on package name, but looks like bodhi autocompletion database was not refreshed. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 23:37 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > > It's not an improvement as such. We already require the Provides: > bundled(foo) thing, though we rely on the good will of maintainers > (both in Fedora and upstream) because we have practical means of > enforcement. > It's currently

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 21:26 GMT+02:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : > > > Right as well as most issues already have been found and fixed in Fedora > long before those components enter RHEL. > > JBG > Fair point, Fedora brings value to Red Hat and it is acknowledged. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-10 15:53 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher : > I assume that subject line got your attention. > > I know this is a long-standing debate and that this thread is likely > to turn into an incomprehensible flamewar filled with the same tired > arguments, but I'm going to make a proposal and then atte

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 21:09 GMT+02:00 Josh Stone : > On 09/11/2015 10:35 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Actually, the opposite is true. RHEL has fewer limitations in this >> space. Red Hat's layered projects ship a fair amount of bundled stuff. >> This problem is entirely Fedora's. Fedora has far stricter ru

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 20:24 GMT+02:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : > > > The inclusion of what now 15k components in the distribution is a testimony > of success of un-bundling against your testimony of ( few ) failures of > bundling. > > JBG > Say that *after* you properly reviewed the current set of packages. Y

Re: Sane ownCloud alternatives (was: Re: Looking for new maintainer: ownCloud (Fedora / EPEL))

2015-08-31 Thread Haïkel
There's also cozy cloud , though it's JavaScript much less insane than owncloud. https://cozy.io/ Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-22 12:07 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > come on the bugtracker also don't work > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1226509#c5 > Thanks for definitively killing this thread by posting something unrelated. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-22 4:46 GMT+02:00 Christopher Meng : > > Occupying the moral high ground doesn't help as well. > -- > > Yours sincerely, > Christopher Meng > If you want your bugs to be fixed, posting them on a list and ignoring the bug tracker doesn't work. And for people who don't want to go through gi

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-21 Thread Haïkel
Sometimes, I wonder if you're not doing this on purpose. Rather than preventing our infrastructure team to fix the actual issues with useless squabbles, just open tickets to let them know. Forget the ridiculous github excuse, fedorahosted trac instance still accepts tickets. Out of respect of the

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-21 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-21 0:58 GMT+02:00 Orion Poplawski : > On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> >> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors how hard >> is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora >> Repository stalled [1]; discussion that we actually do not know how many >> a

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-17 Thread Haïkel
Le 17 août 2015 8:47 AM, "Josh Boyer" a écrit : > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > This is current output from my script with updates based on your comments: > > Axel Thimm - no recent sponsor activity > > Had his packages orphaned a while ago due to non-responsive ma

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-16 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-16 10:33 GMT-04:00 Kevin Fenzi : > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:02:05 -0400 > Haïkel wrote: > > ...snip... > >> Using Bugzilla rather than FAS is not a bad idea, as some people >> abuse their sponsor status by blindly adding people into the packager >> group w

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-15 Thread Haïkel
Though it's always nice to read in the morning that you're a good guy, I have few comments. + some people have been recently given the sponsor bit + some people do actively help our new packagers to grow but it does not appear here + others have done a tremendous works as sponsors in the past and

Re: Is it time to allow Chromium in Fedora?

2015-08-12 Thread Haïkel
Le 11 août 2015 5:08 PM, "Chris Adams" a écrit : > > Once upon a time, Gerald B. Cox said: > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > > > What packaging exceptions are being made for Firefox? > > > > They can be found here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_

Re: Grub2 older in f24 than in f23

2015-08-02 Thread Haïkel
Hi, I see no emergency, F23 package was updated this friday, and as *nothing is broken*, that could have waited Peter's feedback. Yes, this is an open source project, but we can respect other contributors right to enjoy their week-end peacefully. Had it broke something, I'd have understood not wa

Re: [PATCH] Update to 2.0.2

2015-08-02 Thread Haïkel
+1 @Igor: patches should be sent through bugzilla or by mail to package owners, unless you have a good reason like requests for comments or serious dispute w/ package owners though there are better ways. Moreover, not contacting package maintainer won't encourage provenpackagers to give it a shot

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-07-29)

2015-07-29 Thread Haïkel
Sorry, I'll be unable to join as my ISP decided to mess up with their equipment. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Unretiring the mumble package

2015-07-14 Thread Haïkel
There's already an effort to unretire it, you may join: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1181366 btw, I don't think this is a good idea to start as a packager with Mumble. Regards, h. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Is %autosetup another unwanted baby of Fedora?

2015-07-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-07-14 10:24 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Izdebski : > On 07/13/2015 02:39 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > When I moved to Fedora after years of doing Debian packages I noticed > > that there is no such thing as patch management when it comes to Fedora > > packages. Everyone is using %patch macro with

Re: Is %autosetup another unwanted baby of Fedora?

2015-07-13 Thread Haïkel
2015-07-13 16:20 GMT+02:00 Pádraig Brady : > > maybe pull `rdopkg update-patches` into `fedpkg` ? > > That's more or less, what I'll be suggesting in my patch management session at Flock ;) btw, rdopkg now handles properly %autosetup \o/ H. > cheers, > Pádraig. > -- > devel mailing list > devel

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-07-11 19:47 GMT+02:00 Michael Schwendt : > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:44:39 +0200, Haïkel wrote: > > > @Stephan: this is hardly readable, I don't what is quoted and what's your > > answer. > > Claws Mail has no trouble displaying the message. It's a multipa

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-11 Thread Haïkel
@Stephan: this is hardly readable, I don't what is quoted and what's your answer. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] FTBFS Packages in rawhide (2015-07-11)

2015-07-11 Thread Haïkel
I fixed python-autopep8 as provenpackager. python-umemcache should be dropped, it has not been updated upstream since 2013, it doesn't support python3, and nothing requires it. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

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