Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 03.06.2023 um 05:11 schrieb Ralph Bromley : > > Look its not like I have not tried libreoffice as a flat but as of now it > looks out of place, I can't even see the icons even when I use the default > adwaita or breeze themes. > How is this an improvement? > I wanted to leave ubuntu becau

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Ralph Bromley
Look its not like I have not tried libreoffice as a flat but as of now it looks out of place, I can't even see the icons even when I use the default adwaita or breeze themes. How is this an improvement? I wanted to leave ubuntu because of crap like this, where they forced snaps down my throat no

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Ralph Bromley
This is a stupid bonehead idea, libreoffice is just too big to reliably run in flatpak. Plus what about java integration, guess the languagetool plugin wont work now and I will have to use its stupud online version where you havwe to pay to add words. Oh well, back to debian. ___

Re: Trying to strip a library automatically

2023-06-02 Thread Paul Grosu
Hi Orion, Glad objdump helped -- the second approach I meant to write objcopy, which actually strips the symbols. Regarding how the symbols might show up in the library automatically, here's how it might happen. When I took a look at one of the build.log files from koji at the following link: h

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Leslie Satenstein via devel
No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with F39. Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep Fedora Diehards from jumping to another popular distribution. Leslie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:07 p.m., Sandro wrote: On 0

Making systemd-boot option available for installation?

2023-06-02 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello team, I would like to bring back the topic related to the selection of bootloader notably either GRUB2 and systemd-boot. With the recent adoption on UKI kernel, it would be great to get systemd-boot ready for at least Fedora 39 which is useful for devices like laptops. Currently, some m

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Sandro
On 02-06-2023 16:09, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:55:30AM +0200, Sandro wrote: However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to transition the package from Red Hat maintenance to Fedora mainte

Re: Trying to strip a library automatically

2023-06-02 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 6/1/23 23:00, Paul Grosu wrote: Hi Orion, There are two ways to remove the debugging symbols: 1) strip --strip-debug your_library.so 2) objcopy --strip-debug your_library.so Below is an example of both approaches: 1) Method using strip: paul$ objdump --syms libfoo.so | grep debug 000

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2023-06-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 3:16 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 8:00 AM wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: > >ELN SIG on 2023-06-02 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern > >At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat > > > > The meeting will be

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Christian Schaller
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:40 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:28 PM Stephen Smoogen > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 07:20, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> > >> Lets not make this a drama. > >> > >> Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear Daniel, On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 4:57 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 04:27:37PM +0200, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > > > I maintain OpenSSH that has a lot of heavy-interfering downstream > > patches. I’d like to reduce the burden of rebase by combi

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear Chris, On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 4:42 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Dmitry Belyavskiy said: > > I maintain OpenSSH that has a lot of heavy-interfering downstream > > patches. I’d like to reduce the burden of rebase by combining some of > > them. > > Wow that's a lot of patches.

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 04:27:37PM +0200, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I maintain OpenSSH that has a lot of heavy-interfering downstream > patches. I’d like to reduce the burden of rebase by combining some of > them. Trying to reduce the burden by combining patches won't help I

Re: Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Dmitry Belyavskiy said: > I maintain OpenSSH that has a lot of heavy-interfering downstream > patches. I’d like to reduce the burden of rebase by combining some of > them. Wow that's a lot of patches. Some appear to be Fedora specific, but a bunch seem like general fixes. Has

Managing multiple cross-dependent patches

2023-06-02 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear colleagues, I maintain OpenSSH that has a lot of heavy-interfering downstream patches. I’d like to reduce the burden of rebase by combining some of them. So I wonder if there is software checking for cross-dependencies between patches to see what are the natural candidates for combining? I’

Re: libnfs soname bump

2023-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 04:02:35PM +0200, Xavier Bachelot wrote: > Le 2023-06-02 10:40, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > >On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 08:34:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >>qemu is building now: > >> > >>https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=101710059 > > > >This fa

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:55:30AM +0200, Sandro wrote: > However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the > deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to > transition the package from Red Hat maintenance to Fedora > maintenance. I would even go as far as that

Re: libnfs soname bump

2023-06-02 Thread Xavier Bachelot via devel
Le 2023-06-02 10:40, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 08:34:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: qemu is building now: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=101710059 This failed because of the data center shutdown, second attempt: https://koji.fedoraprojec

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 09:40, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:28 PM Stephen Smoogen > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 07:20, Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> > >> Lets not make this a drama. > >> > >> Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals.

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 2:28 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 07:20, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> >> Lets not make this a drama. >> >> Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals. >> > > I am sorry, but this was made into a drama by the way this was ex

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 07:20, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Lets not make this a drama. > > Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals. > > I am sorry, but this was made into a drama by the way this was executed. Surprise is the opposite of engagement and dropping a ton of pa

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread blinxen
Hello If you are still looking for co-maintainers, I can also help. Hussein Am 01.06.23 um 22:16 schrieb Gwyn Ciesla via devel: I've taken ownership of libreoffice for the time being, at least to keep the lights on. Co-maintainers, as always, welcome. -- Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Terry, > I appreciate and am empathetic to all of those carrying the burden of this > and the thousands of other RPM packages. As a users of Fedora + RPM Fusion + > Cinnamon Desktop as my daily laptop driver since 2011, I love Fedora and am a > heavy user of Flatpacks. So thank you all. > > T

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Terry Bowling
I appreciate and am empathetic to all of those carrying the burden of this and the thousands of other RPM packages. As a users of Fedora + RPM Fusion + Cinnamon Desktop as my daily laptop driver since 2011, I love Fedora and am a heavy user of Flatpacks. So thank you all. That said, I will point

Re: Self Introduction: Herald Yu Betty Liu

2023-06-02 Thread Betty Liu
wow thank you so much!!! I will have a look of them~ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
Lets not make this a drama. Package maintenance changes have never gone through change proposals. > However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to transition the package from Red Hat maintenance to Fedora main

Re: Old stalled bodhi updates

2023-06-02 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 31 May 2023 at 09:08, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 30/05/23 22:15, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > > > > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-f563346d4d is > > similar, but this time it was ejected from its push *to stable* (not to > > testing), again allegedly for

Re: Self Introduction: Herald Yu Betty Liu

2023-06-02 Thread Benson Muite
On 6/1/23 13:09, Betty Liu wrote: > Hi I also come from China ~ I'm Betty and now I'm learning about how to > become a packager (so I think it's not the time to do a self-introduction in > devel now hhh) > > Nice to have someone come from the same country! If you have the time maybe > you can t

Re: libnfs soname bump

2023-06-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 08:34:18AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > qemu is building now: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=101710059 This failed because of the data center shutdown, second attempt: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=101716211 Rich. --

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Michael J Gruber
> Il 02/06/23 01:55, Sandro ha scritto: > I'm having a bad feeling about Fedora future lately, seeing all these RH > withdrawals from the project. That escalated quickly, yes. More worryingly: It escalated non-openly and non-collaboratively. > I hope to be wrong. But could Fedora survive the da

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-02 Thread Jiri Vanek
Damn thats a long list. On 6/2/23 01:21, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote: I've taken ownership of libreoffice for the time being, at least to keep the lights on. Also of the many dependencies? As far as I can tell, from the list in the orphaned package report, all t

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide Change)

2023-06-02 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 6/2/23 01:09, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Demi Marie Obenour wrote: I haven’t written Java in years, but my understanding is that AOT compilation has three major advantages: 1. It reduces the size of total deliverables because the final executable only includes the libraries it needs