No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with F39. 
Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep Fedora Diehards 
from jumping to another popular distribution.
Leslie
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  On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:07 p.m., Sandro<li...@penguinpee.nl> wrote:   On 
02-06-2023 16:09, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:55:30AM +0200, Sandro wrote:
>> However, it surprises me that for a package, that is part of the
>> deliverables of Fedora releases, no coordination effort was made to
>> transition the package from Red Hat maintenance to Fedora
>> maintenance. I would even go as far as that this should have been
> 
> I think this sentiment is getting ahead of things. This thread _is_ that
> effort. Asking people to submit a Change when they want or need to stop
> working on something seems... burdensome. (And, uh, what happens if that
> change is rejected? There's no _making_ people do things.)

So, what is the contingency plan then? LibreOffice is a huge package and 
I could imagine that taking over maintenance of it is not an easy endeavor.

Taking into consideration the circumstances explained in replies later, 
I can understand that hands were tied. Yet, the decision to stop 
shipping LibreOffice is one that affects future RHEL releases and Red 
Hat's customers. Yet, the decision to orphan the LibreOffice stack of 
packages affects a much larger group of users.

What will we ship in Fedora if we were to follow in Red Hat's footsteps? 
LibreOffice Flatpak? That may prove to be the straw that broke the 
camel's back. As I said before, I don't want to to reiterate the Flatpak 
vs. RPM discussion. But maybe that topic needs to be picked up and 
discussed, so we get a better understanding of where this will leave us.

Let's hope that at least some lessons will be learned from this rather 
rushed decision. At least that is what it appears to be.

-- Sandro
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