On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 01:43:30 -,
John Dulaney wrote:
Here's an idea. How about Gnome fix their broken crap, and let's not enable
this missfeature in systemd? All these problems (including the true, root
problem!) go away. Alas, this seems to be too difficult a solution.
Let's be
On Mon, 30 May 2016 01:43:30 -
"John Dulaney" wrote:
> You know, it seems to me that systemd doing this to work around a
> Gnome problem (and a problem I have not seen outside of Gnome), is
> sort of like glibc working around a bug in Firefox and at the same
> time breaking bash. We're takin
You know, it seems to me that systemd doing this to work around a Gnome problem
(and a problem I have not seen outside of Gnome), is sort of like glibc working
around a bug in Firefox and at the same time breaking bash. We're taking a bug
in the Gnome stack and putting a 'fix' in systemd that b
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
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>> * Does 'loginctl enable-linger ' take effect in the current
>> session? Or do you have to start a new one? does it persist over
>> sessions or only affects the current/next one?
> Lingering applies to the systemd --user ins
So there's tmux, screen, curl, wget, and probably quite a few others
that don't necessarily get daemonized that are probably affected.
It may be that most problems are processes instantiated by the DE
running in the user session; and if that's true then maybe the DE
needs to be more aggressive wit
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 12:53:26PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> So, my 2 cents...
>
> Some questions for upstream:
>
> * I assume killed processes are logged in the journal, but Is there
> any way to have a 'permissive' version? ie, simply log what would
> have been killed, but not do anythi
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> If there is a systematic
> problem of badly written code leaving orphaned code running when
> a user logs out, then that broken code should be fixed instead of
> adding another layer of process management. systemd is not capable
> of interpre
On 29 May 2016 at 17:05, mastaiza wrote:
> and I think that at least half of the works on redhat
>
Just because someone is paid by Red Hat does not mean they are paid to
work on Fedora. They usually have a 60 hour a week job doing some
other thing on some other product. Only around 20 people are
and I think that at least half of the works on redhat
faster to find a new distro
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On 29 May 2016 21:02, "mastaiza" wrote:
>
>
> but what about the people who used this window Manager . I think its not
respectful to the users
> --
All packagers in Fedora ultimately are volunteers and we don't get too tell
people they have maintain any given package.
Your options are find an ex
but what about the people who used this window Manager . I think its not
respectful to the users
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On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> * Does 'loginctl enable-linger ' take effect in the current
> session? Or do you have to start a new one? does it persist over
> sessions or only affects the current/next one?
>
Also, what exactly does linger do? Does it turn off the k
So, my 2 cents...
Some questions for upstream:
* I assume killed processes are logged in the journal, but Is there
any way to have a 'permissive' version? ie, simply log what would
have been killed, but not do anything? That would be very helpful to
folks to identify things that would be
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Martin Ueding wrote:
> I use a LUKS-LVM setup to encrypt my whole drive. Something within
> `/boot` then asks me to enter the password and boots after that.
>
> On some occasions, especially with the laptop keyboard, I accidentally
> hit the capslock key. After th
I'm guessing you are subscribed to this mailing list. Every now and
then you get messages with subject lines like "Orphaned packages in
rawhide". You could have seen it quite some time ago.
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/219062
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I use a LUKS-LVM setup to encrypt my whole drive. Something within
`/boot` then asks me to enter the password and boots after that.
On some occasions, especially with the laptop keyboard, I accidentally
hit the capslock key. After that all password attempts are wrong, of
course. The problem is tha
it is necessary in advance to warn about the deletion . or do I have to guess
about this myself
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Il 29/05/2016 19:18, mastaiza ha scritto:
Hi . Started to update one of the computers on which stands jwm and surprise
he's not in the fedora repository 24 .
Hi,
It was retired 2016/05/19, because it was orphaned for
more than six weeks.
Regards
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your I should follow packet . I just want to enjoy and not to think what else
is there to remove in the new issue
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It was orphaned in late February.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/jwm/
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Hi . Started to update one of the computers on which stands jwm and surprise
he's not in the fedora repository 24 .
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here I do not speak English I now to guess where to click or to sit with a
dictionary
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24 yumex in Fedora has been removed place it in yumex-dnf . I have a question
where Russian language .
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On Fri, 27.05.16 19:03, Paul Wouters (p...@nohats.ca) wrote:
> On Fri, 27 May 2016, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> >It seems to me systemd should be able to know the difference between
> >a program that's zombie or unresponsive but isn't doing anything or is
> >unresponsive but is doing something; and
# F24 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2016-05-30
# Time: 16:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We have 4 proposed Final blockers to review. There are also 5
accepted blockers to check in on, and 5 proposed freeze exception
issues to review since the freeze will
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel tomorrow's QA meeting. We're into
Final validation mode now, and I don't think there are any urgent
topics to discuss. If anyone has anything that we should meet about,
please do reply to this email and we can go ahead and schedule the
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Missing expected images:
Xfce raw-xz armhfp
Cloud_base raw-xz i386
Minimal raw-xz armhfp
Failed openQA tests: 3/73 (x86_64), 4/17 (i386)
ID: 19567 Test: i386 KDE-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/19567
ID: 19603 Test: x86_64 universal install_lvmthi
OLD: Fedora-24-20160528.n.0
NEW: Fedora-24-20160529.n.0
= SUMMARY =
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Dropped images: 2
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Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 18
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 0.00 B
Size of dropped packages:0.00 B
Size of
Missing expected images:
Kde live i386
Kde live x86_64
Cloud_base raw-xz i386
Atomic raw-xz x86_64
Kde raw-xz armhfp
Minimal raw-xz armhfp
Failed openQA tests: 44/67 (x86_64), 10/16 (i386)
ID: 19464 Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/test
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20160528.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20160529.n.0
= SUMMARY =
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Dropped images: 2
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Size of dropped packages:0.00 B
hi
take!
for swap see comment in your review requests
regards
.g
Il 29/05/2016 10:52, Luya Tshimbalanga ha scritto:
Hello team,
I am willing to do a review in exchange of the following packages:
gimp-layer-via-copy
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329923
radeontop:
https:/
Hello team,
I am willing to do a review in exchange of the following packages:
gimp-layer-via-copy
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329923
radeontop:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1089962
Thanks in advance,
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Hello Everyone,
Yesterday, I upgraded my fully updated Fedora 23 Workstation
installation to Fedora 24 using dnf system upgrade plugin without any
issues. However, I noticed that though Fedora 24 kernel (currently
4.5.5-300.fc24.x86_64) is installed and present at the top of the list
in grub
On 29 May 2016 5:02 a.m., "Nico Kadel-Garcia" wrote:
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> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 07:03:23PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 May 2016, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>
> >> >It seems to me systemd should be able to know
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