Re: f18 koji all failed

On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 21:37 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:18:22 + > dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: > > > This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't > > get the dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager. > > It's just a anoying set o

Re: [Test-Announce] FreeIPA AD Trust improvement Test Day tomorrow, 2013-07-25

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, I apologize if I missed this in your email but Is there a link for Windows Administrators as to what versions of AD (2000,2003,200877,2012) are supported and their caveats? http://www.freeipa.org/page/Howto/IPAv3_AD_trust_setup#Prerequi

Re: Porting some packages from Russian Fedora

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Re: f18 koji all failed

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 03:18:22 + dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: > This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't > get the dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager. It's just a anoying set of packages that all need overrides. nss, nss-util, nss-softokn, an

Re: f18 koji all failed

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Re: f18 koji all failed

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:06:38 +0800 Christopher Meng wrote: > Hi list especially nss guys, > > Does anyone know how to fix that? > > All builds for f18 are failed. > > DEBUG util.py:264: Error: Package: nss-softokn-3.15.1-1.fc18.x86_64 > (build) DEBUG util.py:264: Requires: > libns

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

+1 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kevin Fenzi Sender: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:12:03 To: Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail -- d

Re: [Test-Announce] FreeIPA AD Trust improvement Test Day tomorrow, 2013-07-25

Hi Adam, I apologize if I missed this in your email but Is there a link for Windows Administrators as to what versions of AD (2000,2003,200877,2012) are supported and their caveats? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam Williamson Sender: devel-boun...

Re: f18 koji all failed

This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't get the dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager. Dan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Christopher Meng Sender: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Thu, 25 Jul

f18 koji all failed

Hi list especially nss guys, Does anyone know how to fix that? All builds for f18 are failed. DEBUG util.py:264: Error: Package: nss-softokn-3.15.1-1.fc18.x86_64 (build) DEBUG util.py:264: Requires: libnssutil3.so(NSSUTIL_3.15)(64bit) DEBUG util.py:264: Error: Package: nss-softokn-

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 03:13:33AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > On Wednesday 24 July 2013 13:23:08 Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 23.07.13 04:03, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: > > > There are two issues however: > > > * The log-splitting of journald is really nice feature. But it does

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wednesday 24 July 2013 13:23:08 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 23.07.13 04:03, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: > > There are two issues however: > > * The log-splitting of journald is really nice feature. But it doesn't > >work for cron: > > $ echo '* * * * * /bin/echo "T

Re: Grepping through all Fedora specfiles?

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 09:02:47AM +1000, Tony Breeds wrote: > > As an aside, Any guesses as to how big the ~/fedora-git dir would be > after running the script above? > Upwards of 9GB. I'm working on a git-seed script right now and that's the size of a checkout seed in the testing environment (

Re: Grepping through all Fedora specfiles?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:14:53PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/24/2013 02:33 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:01:51PM +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > >>On 2013-07-23 08:04, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>> > >>>For similar purposes, I have been using the CSV table returned by >

[Test-Announce] FreeIPA AD Trust improvement Test Day tomorrow, 2013-07-25

Hello, The FreeIPA team is happy to welcome you to a Fedora Test Day that is being held on Thursday, July 25th. We would like to invite you to take part in testing of the upcoming FreeIPA 3.3 release containing 2 major improvements for easier deployment of FreeIPA Active Directory Trust feature t

Non-responsive maintainer: Dave Ludlow (adsllc)

Hi, I've filed bug #983759 [1] concerning updating mingw-proj to the latest version and enabling the mingw64 package two weeks ago, but have received no response since. This is blocking my review request #984248 [2]. I've tried contacting adsllc directly via email, but have received no reply.

Re: Self Introduction

Hello Georgi Valkov! Welcome to the Fedora community! - Chris >>> Georgi Valkov 7/24/2013 5:19 PM >>> Dear Community, My name is Georgi Valkov and I'm a 26 year old FOSS user and enthusiast situated in Bulgaria. My last job was at Cisco, where I did build/release engineering and internal

Re: self introduction

Hello Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek! Welcome to the Fedora community! - Chris >>> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 7/24/2013 5:30 PM >>> Hello everyone, My name is Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek. I work as a postdoc at a university in Washington, D.C. I've been working on systemd a bit during last yea

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:10:05 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 11:14 -0500, Billy Crook wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler > > wrote: > > > It's tempting to carry this argument too far. We can be first > > > with good new ideas; first with experiment

[perl-Proc-ProcessTable/el5] (27 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el5

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[perl-Proc-ProcessTable/el5: 27/27] Merge branch 'master' into el5

commit fe2bac7c6a9a8a4a8b257901ad1cc936a1f0e3e3 Merge: b5eab91 bd5d064 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Wed Jul 24 22:37:54 2013 +0100 Merge branch 'master' into el5 Conflicts: .gitignore perl-Proc-ProcessTable.spec sources .gitignore |

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 16:50 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0 wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > > wrote: > > The entire budget is not public so you won't get a definitive answer > > for a large portion of the budget. > > Wh

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 11:14 -0500, Billy Crook wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > It's tempting to carry this argument too far. We can be first with > > good new ideas; first with experimental stuff; first with additions. > > We need not be first with bad ideas

[perl-Proc-ProcessTable/f18] (3 commits) ...Update to 0.48

Summary of changes: 50037de... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass (*) 054f9c4... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) c15efb0... Update to 0.48 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:20:39 -0700 "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > So, this change has FPC guidelines and also some redhat-rpm-macros > > changes? > > Yup, we just need to add a macro so it's available during > createSRPMfromSCM in Koji. (T

[perl-Proc-ProcessTable/f19] (2 commits) ...Update to 0.48

Summary of changes: 054f9c4... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) c15efb0... Update to 0.48 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 08:42 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a écrit : > On 07/24/2013 07:33 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > On 07/24/2013 03:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> Earlier this evening I was asked how I expected Fedora to function in > >> any way similarly to how it does now

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 10:31 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 09:05:40AM -0500, inode0 wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce > > wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > >> We would need to f

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

Le mardi 23 juillet 2013 à 21:03 -0500, Chris Adams a écrit : > You apparently don't want anyone who is working on Open Source as part > of any job (Red Hat or not) involved in the distribution you support > (since you said you don't value system admins fixing things while on the > clock the same

self introduction

Hello everyone, My name is Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek. I work as a postdoc at a university in Washington, D.C. I've been working on systemd a bit during last year. I've been active on the Fedora mailing lists and on the bug tracker for some time, but without officially joining. I hope to do that

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, this change has FPC guidelines and also some redhat-rpm-macros > changes? Yup, we just need to add a macro so it's available during createSRPMfromSCM in Koji. (The conditionalized syntax we'd need otherwise is just awful.) > Do those nee

[perl-MARC-XML/f19] Bump to 1.0.1

commit 6c1a7a75405173022784629b895662e78686d333 Author: Dan Scott Date: Wed Jul 24 17:21:11 2013 -0400 Bump to 1.0.1 Signed-off-by: Dan Scott .gitignore |1 + perl-MARC-XML.spec | 10 +++--- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 dele

Self Introduction

Dear Community, My name is Georgi Valkov and I'm a 26 year old FOSS user and enthusiast situated in Bulgaria. My last job was at Cisco, where I did build/release engineering and internal automation tools. After a year long break from work, I've decided to go back to school and earn myself a Mas

Re: F20 System Wide Change: Web Assets

So, this change has FPC guidelines and also some redhat-rpm-macros changes? Do those need to be done before the mass rebuild? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[perl-Test-Warnings] Perl 5.18 rebuild

commit 4441ae30d7295f745c024567c916a42c1ed5ba49 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jul 24 22:57:15 2013 +0200 Perl 5.18 rebuild perl-Test-Warnings.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-Warnings.spec b/perl-Test-Warnings.spec index e36c951

[perl-DBD-Multi] Perl 5.18 rebuild

commit ac2606a0bfcc6aefc165dfa305863d83e9e0bb30 Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jul 24 22:56:42 2013 +0200 Perl 5.18 rebuild perl-DBD-Multi.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-DBD-Multi.spec b/perl-DBD-Multi.spec index a10881a..3a1d891 10

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:09:53PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > >Should we change cron to be using syslog by default if this feature gets > >approved? > Why? If you don't have MTA, it doesn't try to send email. I won't > plan change anything. It might be nice for it to be able to do both. --

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:23:08PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >So this issue is still outstanding (but I'll bet you knew that) > Also as mentioned on this thread, this doesn't work for cron right now > as cron actually collects all log output of a job and then posts it > under its own i

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-07-24

Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-24/fedora-meeting-1.2013-07-24-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/

[perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch] Perl 5.18 rebuild

commit 3714a73be68e1f298adbe47d952959409307a71d Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jul 24 22:44:30 2013 +0200 Perl 5.18 rebuild perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch.spec b/perl-DBIx-ContextualFet

[perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath] Perl 5.18 rebuild

commit ebb9e019743c932ae4a191794bf085f96109c97d Author: Petr Písař Date: Wed Jul 24 22:44:02 2013 +0200 Perl 5.18 rebuild perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-HTML-TreeBuilder-XPath.spec b/perl-HTML-TreeBuild

[perl-Data-ObjectDriver] Perl 5.18 rebuild

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[perl-PDF-API2] Perl 5.18 rebuild

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[perl-mogilefs-server] Perl 5.18 rebuild

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[perl-Params-Validate] Perl 5.18 rebuild

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Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2013-07-24)

=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-07-24) === Meeting started by mmaslano at 18:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-24/fesco.2013-07-24-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Self Introduction

Hello Marcus! Welcome to the Fedora community! - Chris >>> Marcus Asshauer 7/24/2013 2:53 PM >>> Hello, my name is Marcus and I am 32 years old, working as senior system engineer and life in Germany. My focus is on monitoring and automation in data center enviroments. I am using linux since

Re: Self Introduction

Hi Marcus, welcome to the free side of the force; welcome to Fedora ;) I wonder if you've already read our documentation about packaging, if not, this links can be helpful for you https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines https:

Re: Self Introduction

Am Mittwoch, den 24.07.2013, 20:53 +0200 schrieb Marcus Asshauer: > Hello, > > > my name is Marcus and I am 32 years old, working as senior system > engineer and life in Germany. My focus is on monitoring and automation > in data center enviroments. I am using linux since 2000 and have tried > ne

Self Introduction

Hello, my name is Marcus and I am 32 years old, working as senior system engineer and life in Germany. My focus is on monitoring and automation in data center enviroments. I am using linux since 2000 and have tried nearly all main distributions. I choose fedora because of the integration of new te

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Agree that's one way of figuring out but ( share number of > servers/cpu/storage ) honestly i would have thought the infrastructure team > would already know this. Well, luckily you never have to know everything before you start h

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 05:02 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: >> >> So all you can do is gather the core metrics for utility use... >> cpu/band/storage... and with those metrics in hand price what it would >> take to build and run a koji builder in t

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-07-25 16:00 UTC)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2013-07-25 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Note that there was no meeting last week, and that time constraints will probably prevent us from getting through the entire volume of new business t

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 05:02 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: So all you can do is gather the core metrics for utility use... cpu/band/storage... and with those metrics in hand price what it would take to build and run a koji builder in the public cloud as a starting point and plan your initial crowdsourcing campai

Re: Why does so much virt stuff depend on glusterfs?

Daniel P. Berrange (berra...@redhat.com) said: > But the qemu-kvm binary can still run in TCG mode - you don't need to > install the QEMU emulators too. So your dep could be > >%ifarch %{ix86} x86_64 >Requires: libvirt-daemon-kvm >= 0.10.2-3 >%else >Requires: libvirt-dae

Re: Why does so much virt stuff depend on glusterfs?

On 07/24/2013 01:36 PM, Cole Robinson wrote: > On 07/24/2013 05:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:28:20AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 18:15 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:57:50PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:

Re: Why does so much virt stuff depend on glusterfs?

On 07/24/2013 05:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:28:20AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 18:15 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:57:50PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 05:17:01PM -0700, Adam Wi

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 07:35:42AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Fedora is hemorrhaging users to other distributions (and to > closed-source platforms). Do we actually know that this is the case? The statistics wiki page does show a drop of total repository connections around Fedora 15 but sl

Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting 2013-07-24

Good day all, Please join us today (Wednesday, July 24th) at 4PM EDT (8PM UTC) for the Fedora ARM weekly status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. On the agenda so far.. 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 1) Problem packages 2) Kernel Status Update 3) Aarch64 - Status

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > The infrastructure cost ( with the exception of any paid manpower ) is what > sets the baseline for host/run and that cost is what would determine the > infra/hosting tax % or at least gives a number for a minimum we would need > to

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" >> wrote: >> The entire budget is not public so you won't get a definitive answer >> for a large portion of the budget. > > > Wh

[Bug 983001] perl-XML-LibXSLT-1.81 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983001 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: Following MPI packaging guidelines

On 24/07/13 05:04 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: This phrase in MPI guidelines is little clear for me: "Software that supports MPI MUST be packaged also in serial mode [i.e. no MPI], if it is supported by upstream." What does mean "serial mode" ? :) "Serial" in this case means "non-parallel", runn

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 04:40 PM, inode0 wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: The entire budget is not public so you won't get a definitive answer for a large portion of the budget. Why is it not public any reason why we the community cannot know how much we cost? T

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On 07/15/2013 10:36 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail > > Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering , Matthew > Miller > > No longer install an MTA by default. (Specifically let's remove sendmai

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 04:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:55:41PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >>> >>> On 07/24/2013 03:47 PM, inode0 wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff >>

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > It's tempting to carry this argument too far. We can be first with > good new ideas; first with experimental stuff; first with additions. > We need not be first with bad ideas (and discussions here are a way of > figuring out good from ba

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 04:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:55:41PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 07/24/2013 03:47 PM, inode0 wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I as a donor do

Re: Bundling (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

On 07/24/2013 11:03 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 16:17, Peter MacKinnon a écrit : A generalization which I would disagree with in the Java space. I think many projects eventually reach "steady-state" where they have acquired the set of dep bundles they need to satisfy their

Following MPI packaging guidelines

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I'm editing .spec file of MUMPS package to conform it to the MPI packaging guidelines (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:MPI). I have a modest experience in this particular case so I need some suggestions. This is initial .spec file of

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:55:41PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 03:47 PM, inode0 wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff > > wrote: > >>On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > >> wrote: > >>>I as a donor donating $20 would like those t

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 03:47 PM, inode0 wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: I as a donor donating $20 would like those to run to $20? It's going to be a long road! 25,000 to 50,000 of those could get us start

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 03:24 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: The best I can suggest is: build that funding source, and get it to grow to an important size_without_ messing with RH as a sponsor. The cost of running Fedora is likely to be huge. Fundraising is incredibly hard, and generally fails. None ever su

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: >> I as a donor donating $20 would like those to run to > > $20? It's going to be a long road! 25,000 to 50,000 of those could get us started. John -- devel mailing list

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:50 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I gave the quick answer "through donations" Reading through this thread, it seems to me that you are wanting to change something you don't understand. While I am not a RH employee, I have been deeply involved in FOSS, including D

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

Am 24.07.2013 15:58, schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:11:18PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 13:11, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> >>> The second part of my mail that you conveniently removed actually >>> explains why that doesn't work

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

Am 24.07.2013 13:11, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Mon, 22.07.13 19:33, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> Am 22.07.2013 18:29, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >>> If you want to centralize system configuration, rather then services, >>> then go ahead and do, that, but actually ce

Re: EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

Probably because no one has tested it yet? Feel free to test it and leave karma in bodhi. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Ibrahim Yurtseven wrote: > On 23.07.2013 21:41, upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing: > > Age URL > > 457 >

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 02:13 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> Fedora is not any sort of legally recognized entity as far as I know. >> And the fact that the vast majority of contributions are time rather >> than money is because in order to contribu

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 02:13 PM, inode0 wrote: Fedora is not any sort of legally recognized entity as far as I know. And the fact that the vast majority of contributions are time rather than money is because in order to contribute money requires one to send a check made out to Red Hat and I don't think Re

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 02:08 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: But let me add a link to this discussion: http://opensource.com/business/13/7/donations-open-source-projects I think I've got some experience with how open source projects work and there is a lot of truth in that article. From an opensource perspect

Bruno will be on vacation for a week and a half.

I'm going to be going to the WBC this weekend and will be getting back after a bit more than a week. I'll have crappy internet access while I'm there and should be able to keep a lookout for urgent issues. I should be back in time to handle branching spin-kickstarts for Fedora branch. I don't

Re: Bundling (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 16:17, Peter MacKinnon a écrit : > A generalization which I would disagree with in the Java space. I think > many projects > eventually reach "steady-state" where they have acquired the set of dep > bundles > they need to satisfy their runtime and test requirements. For exa

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

Lennart Poettering writes: > [...] essentially boils down to "I hate change". Which is an OK > opinion to have, but certainly not four Fedora, where the four Fs > mean "Freedom, Friends, Features, First". The "First" indicates that > we should be pioneers, and *not* the guys who never change bec

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 15:58, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit : > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:11:18PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 13:11, Lennart Poettering a écrit : >> >> > The second part of my mail that you conveniently removed actually >> > explains why that d

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 09:05:40AM -0500, inode0 wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: >> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >> We would need to form a financial sig

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> Here, done, time elapsed: 1 min googling. > Great. But does this really solve anything except refuting the most > immediate statement by Lennart, taken out of context? 'Context' does not ameliorate a foundation of false statem

[Bug 981398] perl-App-cpanminus-1.6927 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981398 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC|

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 09:05:40AM -0500, inode0 wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> We would need to form a financial sig that handles that. > > > > Are these people going to be paid fo

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On 07/24/2013 01:23 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/2013 08:31 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 07/24/2013 11:35 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: While I *am* pleased that you've given some real thought to this, I think you may have missed t

Bundling (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

New thread to get clear of some of the flames and wreckage... On 07/23/2013 05:25 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:34:15PM -0400, Peter MacKinnon wrote: Well, compat libraries are certainly an option but I view that as a tactical solution to an institutional, um, challenge

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > My understanding is that Fedora is registered as a non-profit > organization in the United States which I believe allows for anyone to > donate to it *today* if they so chose. The fact that the only > donations we see are *time* rather th

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" píše v St 24. 07. 2013 v 10:01 +: > On 07/24/2013 07:33 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > > On 07/24/2013 03:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > Earlier this evening I was asked how I expected Fedora to function > > > in > > > any way similarly to how it does now w

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:37:09PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 07/24/2013 12:15 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: >> >On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 01:50:11AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> > >> >>Obvious we cannot have crowd

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:11:18PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 13:11, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > > The second part of my mail that you conveniently removed actually > > explains why that doesn't work: because the SASL auth is inherently > > per-user configuratio

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Other for the fact that this would allow everyone to contribute to >> the project not just Red Hat which in turn would make us less >> depended on it ( or they spending money on us from their point of >> view ). >> > > My understanding i

Re: EPEL (was Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk))

Dne 22.7.2013 18:29, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" napsal(a): As for cruft in the spec files, why not bring a proposal to the FPC to update the packaging guidelines stating that Fedora spec files must not contain RHEL/EPEL macros? Then the git branches would be maintained separately and the spec file

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock talk)

On 07/22/2013 03:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: This is a draft of the proposal I'm presenting at Flock, "An Architecture for a More Agile Fedora" (). It represents a big change to how we as the Fedora project put together our distribution. I've gone through several drafts

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-07-24)

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, We should probably discuss mass rebuild status/timing as well. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Fedora as an crowd founded project an additional funding source to our sponsor

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/24/2013 08:31 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/24/2013 11:35 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> While I *am* pleased that you've given some real thought to this, >> I think you may have missed the real point I was trying to make >> there,

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