Oh come on you are really reaching now. The below two points are especially
ridiculous.
>
> 1. What if they update the system like this:
>Backed up user data/script -> Fresh install -> Restore user data/script
>For that, it won't work.
>
This is called a fresh install and not an upgrade.
hi
retired gmaven and gshell from rawhide , cause:
1 - gmaven is upstream dead and require gshell
2 - gshell have encountered some problem with the new jline2 (2.10)
see also:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=914056
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=916924
https://bugzilla.re
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 07:51:19AM +0200, Honza Horak wrote:
> On 07/12/2013 05:55 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 01:37:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>>Would anyone care to take a guess at what the hell is going on here?
> >>>
> >>>[adamw@adam ~
On 07/12/2013 05:55 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 01:37:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Would anyone care to take a guess at what the hell is going on here?
[adamw@adam ~]$ sudo yum update
(snip)
Error: Package: community-mysql-libs-5.5.32-6.fc20.x86_64
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 14:58 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> We ask this constantly on Fedora. Because Fedora is where innovation is
> supposed to take place, not where things are stay frozen in carbonite
> forever.
>
> (And let's never forget that Fedora is not the pioneer here. ArchLinux
> wen
On 07/17/2013 10:16 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:12:46PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
You do realize I filed for the exact same thing for F18 as is being
proposed here.
I know, at least. And, as I said earlier in a different subthread (I don't
think you replied)
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 21:00, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > The release notes addition we suggested in the feature page tells you
> > > what to do.
> > >
> > > The feature page also says we'll add /var/log/README explaining the
> > > situation.
> > >
>
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 14:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > instead of administrators simply adding rsyslog or syslog-ng manually
> > > at install time or to their ks snippets.
> >
> > And this too was answered several times already.
> > The machin
- Original Message -
> On 07/17/2013 08:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> >> >Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
> >> >more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
> >> >service/daemons components in th
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 21:00, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > If you never want any changes, then Fedora is simply not the
> > > distribution for you. Slackware might be.
> >
> > I want sane changes that does not break my system.
>
> Well, this won't "br
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:28:10AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 17.07.13 18:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
>
> > > > journalctl _COMM= works for me on F19.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As it does for me, but somewhere it got clipped that what I was
> > >
On Wed, 17.07.13 21:00, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > The release notes addition we suggested in the feature page tells you
> > what to do.
> >
> > The feature page also says we'll add /var/log/README explaining the
> > situation.
> >
> > It would be useful actually if you raised th
- Original Message -
> On Wed, 17.07.13 00:08, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > > that monitor /var/log/messages
> > >
> > > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can
> > > also
> > > install rsyslog.
> >
> > a) From what command they know the
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Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said:
> So, maybe, instead of dropping the "Provides syslog" thing from
> journald, maybe we should add an explicit "syslog-files" dependency (or
> something named like that) and then make the classic syslog
> implementations provide that and the packages which
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> rsyslog has facilities to read from journal, send the full data in
> text, receive and read it back, and even write it back to journal at
> the destination. (Full disclosure I haven't actually tried such a
> chain up, and I wouldn't be sur
On Wed, 17.07.13 19:42, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > Personally, I'd be interested in seeing a lightweight
> > forwarder which integrates with, say, Logstash.
> More lightweight than running rsyslog with local logging turned
On Wed, 17.07.13 17:48, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> Except ... that would still keep duplicated logs on the FS. Removing
> >> the duplication is the primary reason for wanting to not install
> >> rsyslogd by default.
>
> > This seems like such a specious argument.
>
> Note t
On Wed, 17.07.13 12:24, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:10:35PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > I think it's more correct for packages that expect to work on a textual
> > /var/log/messages (or similar) to have a requirement on a meta 'syslog'
> > pa
On Wed, 17.07.13 11:41, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > > You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> > > that monitor /var/log/messages
> >
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On Wed, 17.07.13 16:37, M A Young (m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
> >I used to do something like this with vim ":g/NOISE/d" until I could see the
> >detail I wanted when the alternations for grep would have been tremendously
> >long. With journalctl's built-in filtering capabilities I'm glad I do
On Wed, 17.07.13 17:41, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
>
>
> Am 17.07.2013 17:21, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
> >> From: scl...@netwolves.com
> >
> >> This seems like such a specious argument. Maybe it made sense when
> >> we were talking about disk drives
> >> that were megab
On Wed, 17.07.13 17:50, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 05:21 PM, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
> >
> >> From: scl...@netwolves.com
> >
> >> This seems like such a specious argument. Maybe it made sense when
> >> we were talking about disk drives
> >> that were megabyt
On Wed, 17.07.13 18:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote:
> > > journalctl _COMM= works for me on F19.
> > >
> >
> >
> > As it does for me, but somewhere it got clipped that what I was
> > asking/wishing for was a convenient -C option (like ps) to do just this,
> This sur
On Wed, 17.07.13 12:09, john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) wrote:
> > From: nott...@redhat.com
> >
> > john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > > You can provide binary path (_EXE=) by ”journalctl
> /usr/sbin/sshd”.
> > >
> > > Yes, but that's of little help with
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Following today's FESCo decision, I have created a QA trac ticket to
> co-ordinate this:
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/393
>
> interested parties please feel free to CC yourselves and contribute any
> suggested changes /
On Wed, 17.07.13 11:48, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote:
> john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said:
> > > You can provide binary path (_EXE=) by ”journalctl /usr/sbin/sshd”.
> >
> > Yes, but that's of little help with applications using interpreted
> > languages (e.g., p
On Wed, 17.07.13 18:58, M A Young (m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Eric Smith wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:39 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
> > wrote:
> >>Allowing editing of log files is a pure security risk...
> >
> >So is giving a sysadmin the root password, but we
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 23:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 23:18 -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > On 07/10/2013 10:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > As I said elsewhere in the thread, the criteria should be subsidiary to
> > > the primary arch designation. If we decide we
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:12:46PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> You do realize I filed for the exact same thing for F18 as is being
> proposed here.
I know, at least. And, as I said earlier in a different subthread (I don't
think you replied), the rejection didn't seem to me (I wasn't i
On Wed, 17.07.13 15:04, M A Young (m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk) wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> >"cat /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl"
> >"tail -f /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl -f"
> >"tail -n100 /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl -n100"
> >"grep foobar
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:12:03PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So, to put a number on it, does that mean _at_ the change freeze and branch
> > which is "no earlier than 2013-08-06"?
> As things stand, yeah. I think for F19 we actually started doing TCs
> earlier, but certainly by then.
Okay,
On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>
Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'ano
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Billy Crook said:
> > What about a special filesystem mounted at /var/log or filesystem
> trickery
> > therein that presents contents similar to what everyone expects, backed
> out
> > of journalctl and its storage then?
>
>
Once upon a time, Billy Crook said:
> What about a special filesystem mounted at /var/log or filesystem trickery
> therein that presents contents similar to what everyone expects, backed out
> of journalctl and its storage then?
While you could probably do something like this with FUSE, it would
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> The journal is not an implementation of syslog, we already have that in
> rsyslog. Also, the feature is about ending the duplicate storage of the
> log messages, so your suggestion is completely against what the feature
> is about.
>
Wh
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> >> drop-down box in Installation Optio
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
>> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>
> Exactly that - at the moment.
>
> However
Le mardi 16 juillet 2013 à 08:59 +0200, Vít Ondruch a écrit :
> Dne 15.7.2013 18:31, Bill Nottingham napsal(a):
> > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
> >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Ruby on Rails 4.0 =
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.0
> >>
> >> Change ow
On 07/17/2013 09:04 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
I've read though most of the email on this thread, and would just like
to put in my $.02.
I think this "System Wide Change" is 1 to 2 releases too early.
I'm not totally against it. But I live with one foot in RHEL land,
and one foot in Fedora. It
> From: miked...@gmail.com
> To:
> Date: 07/17/2013 17:11
> Subject: Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Remove deprecated calls of
> using ntpdate in favor of ntpd
> Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
> Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote
> ntp connectiv
On 07/17/2013 08:55 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
>Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
>more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
>service/daemons components in the distribution and still no policy
>or work being
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 15:10 -0600, Mike wrote:
> Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote ntp
> connectivity.
>
>
> So, I'm curious now, if there is no remote NTP server listening, will
> the anaconda server reject you from using that as a NTP server?
It lists the serve
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:59 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> >
> > Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> > drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
>
> Exactly that - at the moment.
>
> H
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:43 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:24:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I mean the timeframe for getting the criteria changes proposed and
> > applied. We generally want to have major criteria changes in place prior
> > to Alpha TC1.
>
> So,
Which gets me wondering if that is the best way to test for remote ntp
connectivity.
So, I'm curious now, if there is no remote NTP server listening, will the
anaconda server reject you from using that as a NTP server?
Mike
--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013
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> From: awill...@redhat.com
>
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> > > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather
> than bouncing us back to ntpd?
> >
> > Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
> > configuration) let the ker
On 07/15/2013 04:26 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:11, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog
Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering ,
Matth
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Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for
those unable the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-17/fedora-meeting-1.2013-07-17-20.02.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Does 'new automatic partitioning variant' mean 'another option in the
> drop-down box in Installation Options', more or less?
Exactly that - at the moment.
However...what we really lack here is some sort of explanation of the
trade
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On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19.
>
> In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs.
OK well I don't have it on any of the clean F19 installs I've got here, and I
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Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> Cut that number by half if you like if it somehow makes you feel
> more comfortable but the fact we have around 550 - 600
> service/daemons components in the distribution and still no policy
> or work being done to properly package stuff that need/
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:27:23PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> FWIW, FHS states[1]:
>
> "The following files, or symbolic links to files, must be in /var/log,
> if the corresponding subsystem is installed:
>
> File Description
> lastlog record of last login of each user
> messages
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I tried researching this issue out-of-band but I'm not getting any traction.
I have an F18 machine that had been running F13-16 perfectly, but somewhere
between the X driver changes, the new version of gnome-shell, a cogl update,
and the transition from PackageKit to upower started being very un
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On 07/17/2013 08:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Are you suggesting we somehow need to patch all of these to
use the journal
instead of their own ad-hoc l
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 13:44 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> > > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than
> > > bouncing us back to ntpd?
> >
> > Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:09 +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > e. Why isn't this functionality being added to chrony, rather than bouncing
> > us back to ntpd?
>
> Which functionality exactly? Both ntpd and chronyd (in default
> configuration) let the kernel sync the RTC.
The ability to invoke
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:24:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I mean the timeframe for getting the criteria changes proposed and
> applied. We generally want to have major criteria changes in place prior
> to Alpha TC1.
So, to put a number on it, does that mean _at_ the change freeze and bran
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19.
In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs.
anaconda requires ntpdate, because we use it to check if the NTP server
addresses entered in anaconda's Time / Date spoke are valid.
initial-
HI
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you suggesting we somehow need to patch all of these to use the
>> journal
>> instead of their own ad-hoc log file? Because that is Definitely Out of
>> Scope for this
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On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 12:26 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin
> Provisioning =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
>
> Change owner(s): David Lehman
>
> LVM has introduced thin provisioni
On 07/17/2013 08:23 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:46:01PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
597
About that much
That's not so helpful. M
commit dbcc2b1cfeb1051023fa12ec4751f02c4f4aedf1
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On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:13 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> > that monitor /var/log/messages
>
> A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 19:07 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:14:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > But yes, adding potentially-release-blocking criteria is part of the plan.
> > Who will be working on this, what is the time frame, and what will they
> > be?
>
> Me, a
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:46:01PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> >>597
> >>About that much
> >That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which pro
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2013-07-17)
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Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" said:
> On 07/17/2013 07:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> >>597
> >>About that much
> >That's not so helpful. Most of th
On 07/17/2013 07:05 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
597
About that much
That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which provide their own log
files of some sort and
commit 35faf05527e4f307ca5722b7b961711c1a66f168
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commit c52e28d7230c6b1f5ed1bc59ddf13d9262e4d941
Author: Petr Písař
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:34:40PM -0400, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> > > To be an official Vagrant image, we need Chef, and while Sam Kottler is
> > > working with Opscode to make that finally happen (awesome!), I don't
> think
> > > we want t
commit 42e47c03518ff70b7e39593753ac4c7ec317f157
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Date: Wed Jul 17 21:14:41 2013 +0200
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commit d823c66fcc5982b1f0d895b41ebdfae577d28da3
Author: Petr Písař
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:34:40PM -0400, Julian C. Dunn wrote:
> > To be an official Vagrant image, we need Chef, and while Sam Kottler is
> > working with Opscode to make that finally happen (awesome!), I don't think
> > we want that to be a blocker.
> I work for Opscode. Sam and I have talked; w
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> yum whatprovides "/var/log/*" | grep Filename | wc -l
> 597
> About that much
That's not so helpful. Most of these are things which provide their own log
files of some sort and completely bypass syslog. In fact, we can
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I've heard logwatch, logrotate and fail2ban mentioned. Are there
> others ?
Also worth noting that at least for fail2ban, the earlier change in Arch
Linux (where they are, for better or for worse, leading the way) means that
the ne
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness.
>
> Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of
> packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages
> or other log f
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 12:24 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: Change Packaging Guidelines to discourage
> requires into /bin and /sbin =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoBinDeps
>
> Change owner(s): Ales Kozumplik
On the face of it, calling this a Change s
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20:17AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > It would likely push this to a system-wide change, but wouldn't it be
> > logical for this feature to also make a vagrant-able image as well?
>
> To be an official Vagrant
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:29:45PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:14:40PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > journalctl -fl in sufficiently new versions.
>
> So that will be in Fedora 20, right? It doesn't seem to work in Fedora
> 19.
It's just an alias f
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:14:40PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> journalctl -fl in sufficiently new versions.
So that will be in Fedora 20, right? It doesn't seem to work in Fedora
19.
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commit 5cdc1be15e4177fb0d8a2b2b31b3b09f8d616a95
Author: Petr Písař
Date: Wed Jul 17 20:25:26 2013 +0200
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Hi,
cdrkit-1.1.11-18 just entered rawhide, patched to use libcdio-paranoia
instead of cdparanoia. Most affected subpackages are probably wodim and
icedax. Dirsplit, libusal and genisoimage not that much.
This change can break popular burning frontends (k3b, brasero, ...) if
done poorly. Please
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