On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Adam Williamson <awill...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 07:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> a. ntpd/ntpdate aren't installed by default with Fedora 19.
> 
> In fact, ntpdate is, in many installs.

OK well I don't have it on any of the clean F19 installs I've got here, and I 
have three. I'm not sure if they're DVD Gnome, or netinst Gnome or Desktop 
Gnome.

Chris Murphy
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