On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> Don't tell me that you have not seen people writing multiple platform
> scripts like this:
>
> case $OS)
> Windows* )
>some_windows_scripts
> ..
> Linux* )
>grep /var/log/messages
> .
>
>
> For them: What?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:26:22PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> >> You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> >> that monitor /var/log/messages
> > A)
I don't really appreciate the discussion this has started. All I had to
say about this is summed up here:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/314#comment:7
From a position of someone who works on packaging tools and someone who
clashed with UsrMove several times already, this is my best shot a
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
>> You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
>> that monitor /var/log/messages
> A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can als
- Original Message -
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> > that monitor /var/log/messages
>
> A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can also
> install rsyslog.
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:06 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, john.flor...@dart.biz said:
> > While I'm no more important than the next guy, I'll defend the auto-pager
> > feature of both git and journalctl. I love it, in fact. I'm no stranger
> > to very long pipelines and sub-she
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Dave Johansen wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 08:05:19AM -0700, Dave Johansen wrote:
>>> I have a ThinkPad T60 that I recently upgraded to Fedora 19 from
>>> CentOS 6. With CentOS 6, I could connect to t
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:33:48PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 07/16/2013 07:16 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >For instance, it seems to be missing both the stack protector and
> >llvmpipe issues.
>
> Finishing scope of stack protector issue- it'll be there in a day or
> so. Idea is to get
On 07/16/2013 07:16 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:16:04AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:07:39PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
I don't want to move the goalposts on the ARM effort, but I t
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:25:10PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09:19PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Yes, this is still the case, that plain 'systemctl' truncates unit
> > names. It's a tough choice, but in this specific case it's hard to
> > find a for
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:16:04AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:07:39PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> >> >I don't want to move the goalposts on the ARM effort, but I think it's
> >> >reasonable to expect t
On 6/29/13, T.C. Hollingsworth > Perhaps
the real fix here would be to just remove that placeholder
> text (and double-check that the bodhi CLI rejects updates with blank
> descriptions)? Personally I just find it really annoying to have to
> backspace that out and fill in proper information ever
On Tue, 16.07.13 20:58, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > He/She will be very frustrated if he/she cannot find it.
> >
> > This is not really an argument, or it is valid for any changes.
> > What about the switch from up2date to yum years ago? I know, I first
> > tried
> > to run up2da
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> that monitor /var/log/messages
A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can also
install rsyslog.
B) Fedora, RHEL, and most Red Hat derive
- Original Message -
> On 07/16/2013 02:56 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> >> Also, most
> >> >distributions do include it in some way or another, and you do not need
> >> >to boot systemd to use to it access your journal files.
> > Not true,
> > RHEL 6 and its friends do not include journalctl
- Original Message -
> On , Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> > Even if you do, you cannot change the exist tutorial, blog, and forums
> > that
> > refer /var/log/messages.
> >
> > Image the following scenario:
> > Suppose a Fedora newbie (or linux newbie) encounters a problem,
> > most of the searc
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09:19PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Yes, this is still the case, that plain 'systemctl' truncates unit
> names. It's a tough choice, but in this specific case it's hard to
> find a format that would work without truncation. There are two fields
> with pot
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 22:26 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> Thanks. Delayed response... I've finally got everything else working
> nicely on Fedora 19 and I'm looking at this. I see firstboot is still
> available, but it doesn't seem to *work*.
>
> First it wants python-ethtool to be installed
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:07:39PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> >I don't want to move the goalposts on the ARM effort, but I think it's
>> >reasonable to expect that a list of "Known Broken/Deficient items" be
>> >available. Does such a
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 22:42 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> > I'm afraid I can't agree. I like the s
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:07:39PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> >I don't want to move the goalposts on the ARM effort, but I think it's
> >reasonable to expect that a list of "Known Broken/Deficient items" be
> >available. Does such a list exist?
> The list of outstanding ARM bugs is tracked her
On 07/16/2013 11:36 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Well, what else is broken?
It's a matter of approach - you seem to be saying "what are the minimum
requirements, listed so that we can meet them". In terms of a minimum
viable platform, for all its faults, the interfaces specified by the LSB
might
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:14:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > But yes, adding potentially-release-blocking criteria is part of the plan.
> Who will be working on this, what is the time frame, and what will they
> be?
Me, as change proposal owner, working with the QA team, I hope including
y
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:22:01PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> /bin/sh is *not* a bash script
> /bin/sh is *whatever* your default shell would be
Says who or what? I think we're _probably_ striving to be functionally
compatible with the Posix standard whereby 'sh' follows this specification:
htt
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 13:35 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:55:09AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > >With Fedora 19's First Class Cloud Images feature [1], we have Amazon EC2
> > >and
> > >downloadable cloud images (in qcow2 and raw.xz format) produced and
> > >release
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> I just upgraded to rawhide with 3.11.0-0.rc0.git7.1.fc20. I didnt get
> any issues with dracut but Fedora would not boot. I am currently on
> 3.10.0-0.rc7.git0.2.fc20:
>
> No dracut or post trans errors when upgrading to this:
>
> Dependencies
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - I have my desktop on Rawhide now, and on trying to install
> the latest kernel build from Koji today -
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=433327 - the yum
> process seemed to hang indefinitely at ' Cleanup
Hi,
i'm updating yolk from 0.4.1 to 0.4.3 which brings a license change:
GPLv2 to BSD.
The new license is the new BSD variant aka BSD 3 clauses (no
advertising) aka "kosher BSD" (compatible with GPLv2+)
According repoquery, no other packages requires it, just let me know if
it matters to you.
Be
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 22:42 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:17 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >
> >> > I'm afraid I can't agree. I like the simplicity of the model you're
> >> > proposing, but from a pract
Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said:
> Am 16.07.2013 22:18, schrieb Chris Adams:
> > #!/bin/sh is the cannonical first line for a Bourne(-compatible) shell
> > script, and nothing should change that. Even on other Unix OSes with a
> > /bin->/usr/bin symlink, all the shell scripts referenced /bin
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 14:31 -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > /bin/sh is *not* a bash script
> > /bin/sh is *whatever* your default shell would be
>
> I certainly hope not. I've worked on plenty of Unix machines where
> the default shell was csh
Am 16.07.2013 22:02, schrieb Simo Sorce:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:50 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
me "GIT does the same" is no
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> /bin/sh is *not* a bash script
> /bin/sh is *whatever* your default shell would be
I certainly hope not. I've worked on plenty of Unix machines where
the default shell was csh or tcsh, but if /bin/sh had been csh or a
link to it, all hell w
commit d3a39fbcd309e185c5aa0211c0b48aaecc9837e0
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Tue Jul 16 21:29:48 2013 +0100
Update to 0.28
- New upstream release 0.28
- Fix test issue
Package-Stash-XS-0.27-test-XS.patch | 15 ---
perl-Package-Stash-XS.spec | 10 +
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 12:18 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> I think that the best course of action would to rethink UsrMove as
> UsrMerge which I would then take to the rest of the FPC as getting rid of
> the prohibition on packages listing /bin, /sbin/ lib, /lib64 as the location
> in the file.
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Package-Stash-XS:
9664356ec3be02626cbd3081ec246b70 Package-Stash-XS-0.28.tar.gz
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Am 16.07.2013 22:18, schrieb Chris Adams:
> Once upon a time, Toshio Kuratomi said:
>> * Have package maintainers patch upstreams to use /usr/{bin,lib,[..]}
>> instead of /{bin,lib[...]} (for instance, shebang lines)
>
> #!/bin/sh is the cannonical first line for a Bourne(-compatible) shell
>
Am 16.07.2013 22:10, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
> No you can't really. The auto-paging is smarter than you might
> think. For example, "journalctl -e" can only really work if we spawn the
> pager ourselves, and there's more like that.
>
> But anyway, the auto-paging thing is going to stay, you
Am 16.07.2013 22:10, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
>> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>>
>> Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
>> >> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>> >>
>> >> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
>> >> me "GIT does the same" is no argument
Am 16.07.2013 22:07, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:25:37PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 16.07.2013 21:18, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
>>> I think that the best course of action would to rethink UsrMove as
>>> UsrMerge which I would then take to the rest of the FP
On Tue, 16.07.13 15:06, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote:
> Once upon a time, john.flor...@dart.biz said:
> > While I'm no more important than the next guy, I'll defend the auto-pager
> > feature of both git and journalctl. I love it, in fact. I'm no stranger
> > to very long pipelines a
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> I don't like things that have differing
> behavior between a TTY and a pipe.
I don't either, but that battle was lost many years ago with the 'ls'
command, which defaults to columnar output to a tty but not to a pipe.
Eric
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Once upon a time, Toshio Kuratomi said:
> * Have package maintainers patch upstreams to use /usr/{bin,lib,[..]}
> instead of /{bin,lib[...]} (for instance, shebang lines)
#!/bin/sh is the cannonical first line for a Bourne(-compatible) shell
script, and nothing should change that. Even on othe
On Tue, 16.07.13 21:50, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> > While I'm no more important than the next guy, I'll defend the auto-pager
> > feature of both git and journalctl. I
> > love it, in fact. I'm no stranger to very long pipelines and sub-shells
> > but I see nothing but be
> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>
> Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
> >> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
> >>
> >> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
> >> me "GIT does the same" is no argument - a mistake is not better
> >> because others do the same..
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:37:14PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Could you be more specific as to what you would like to see changed?
> > systemctl uses the the pager in long outputs like list-units, and
> > it is the
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:25:37PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 16.07.2013 21:18, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
> > I think that the best course of action would to rethink UsrMove as
> > UsrMerge which I would then take to the rest of the FPC as getting rid of
> > the prohibition on packages
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:45:43PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
>
> Yes, it is too late to change this. I might take time away from other work
> for outright factual errors and such, but not for an aesthetic
> reorganization.
By the way, there is one of those: the same entry mentions
/etc/system/ne
Once upon a time, john.flor...@dart.biz said:
> While I'm no more important than the next guy, I'll defend the auto-pager
> feature of both git and journalctl. I love it, in fact. I'm no stranger
> to very long pipelines and sub-shells but I see nothing but benefit in not
> having to add "| l
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:50 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
> >> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
> >>
> >> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
> >> me "GIT does the same" is no argument - a mistake is not better
> >> bec
Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
>> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>>
>> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
>> me "GIT does the same" is no argument - a mistake is not better
>> because others do the same.
>>
>> if i want paging i do " |
Am 16.07.2013 21:18, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi:
> I think that the best course of action would to rethink UsrMove as
> UsrMerge which I would then take to the rest of the FPC as getting rid of
> the prohibition on packages listing /bin, /sbin/ lib, /lib64 as the location
> in the file. The cavea
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:10:28PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:55:59PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > If I grok correctly what you are asking for, you are actually looing for
> > an ExecRestartPre=, not an ExecStopPre=. You want somthing that is run
> > before
On Tue, 16.07.13 21:10, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:55:59PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > If I grok correctly what you are asking for, you are actually looing for
> > an ExecRestartPre=, not an ExecStopPre=. You want somthing that is run
> > be
> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>
> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
> me "GIT does the same" is no argument - a mistake is not better
> because others do the same.
>
> if i want paging i do " | less" or " | more"
> *this* is the unix way of work
>
> bu
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:31:53PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> The way git does it is to only set the LESS environment variable if it's
> not set. If the LESS environment variable is set, then git doesn't
> touch it. This seems like a nice balanced way to approach the
> situation, and it would
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:46:26PM +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 16. 7. 2013 at 13:57:02, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Related FPC ticket [1]: FPC wanted this change to be created.
> >
> > Oh really?
> >
> > > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/314
> >
> > In that ticket I see one FPC member
On 07/16/2013 05:28 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
All the remix images to date have been created on the users own
devices. If you are internal to Red Hat there's process to get access
to internal infrastructure...
There are 3 things I would like to add here:
1. As Peter mentioned elsewhere in his
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:58:11 -0600,
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Yep. Dennis was going to look into doing some kind of weekly dvd iso
compose.
Great!
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:55:59PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> If I grok correctly what you are asking for, you are actually looing for
> an ExecRestartPre=, not an ExecStopPre=. You want somthing that is run
> before we stop a service when we intend to restart it. But when we
> shutdown the
Am 16.07.2013 20:37, schrieb Andrew McNabb:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>> Could you be more specific as to what you would like to see changed?
>> systemctl uses the the pager in long outputs like list-units, and
>> it is the same pager that jour
On 07/16/2013 01:49 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
I'm interested in Fedora on phones, tablets, tiny dongly media centers, set-top
boxes, Wi-Fi routers and eBook readers.
Personally, I'm interested in running Fedora on ARM everywhere, so if
you want to contribute toward the above, by all means do
On 15.07.2013 19:35, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones said:
>> Why?
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html#idm263811933136
>
There is a BUG it the documentation or in my Fedora 19 system!
This lines
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:47:01 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:41:22 -0600,
>Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >Greetings.
> >
> >After consulting with various teams, release engineering has
> >re-enabled rawhide composes to create install images again. These
> >images were droppe
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:41:22 -0600,
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled
rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were
dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.
Is there st
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:37:33PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> But ok, so as you said in the followup, the real root issue here is
> libvirt calling chown [on the kernel and initrd]. It's not clear
> to me why it does so.
It's a good question, and trying to formulate an answer made me
question
On Jul 16, 2013 11:22 AM, "Andrew McNabb" wrote:
>
> Fedora 19 has gone through yet another change to how network interfaces
> are renamed (biosdevname, etc.). This isn't mentioned in the "Changes
> in Fedora for System Administrators" section of the Release Notes,
> though it does seem to be in
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Could you be more specific as to what you would like to see changed?
> systemctl uses the the pager in long outputs like list-units, and
> it is the same pager that journalctl uses.
On Fedora 18, I see lines truncated i
Brendan Conoboy (b...@redhat.com) said:
> Hypothetically speaking, if libGL is fixed in the next few days, do
> you have any objections to armv7hl being moved to primary koji? Or
> is that the tip of the iceberg?
>
> >And I'm saying that threshold should be that the major libraries work. That
>
On Tue, 16.07.13 12:19, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:09:19 +0200
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 16.07.13 12:49, Andrew McNabb (amcn...@mcnabbs.org) wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:56:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > >
> > > > W
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:09:19PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 12:49, Andrew McNabb (amcn...@mcnabbs.org) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:56:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >
> > > We didn't override LESS initially, but we got bugs about that, and after
>
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:09:19 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 12:49, Andrew McNabb (amcn...@mcnabbs.org) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:56:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >
> > > We didn't override LESS initially, but we got bugs about that,
> > > and after
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:43:31PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:28:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > (also: journalctl doesn't truncate lines when doing auto-paging)
>
> Could sane auto-paging be backported to systemctl? Things like this can
> make all the
On Tue, 16.07.13 12:49, Andrew McNabb (amcn...@mcnabbs.org) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:56:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > We didn't override LESS initially, but we got bugs about that, and after
> > a while of forth and back we followed again what git does here and
> > over
On Tue, 16.07.13 12:43, Andrew McNabb (amcn...@mcnabbs.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:28:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > (also: journalctl doesn't truncate lines when doing auto-paging)
>
> Could sane auto-paging be backported to systemctl? Things like this can
> make al
On 07/16/2013 11:01 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Brendan Conoboy (b...@redhat.com) said:
If not now, when? When libGL is ready to go?
... when someone fixes it?
Hypothetically speaking, if libGL is fixed in the next few days, do you
have any objections to armv7hl being moved to primary koji?
Brendan Conoboy (b...@redhat.com) said:
> On 07/15/2013 11:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >If I'm understanding you, you would prefer that ARM be blessed with the
> >stamp of being a 'primary' arch at the cost of dropping release targets,
> >images, and featuresets that are made by and for the co
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:56:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> We didn't override LESS initially, but we got bugs about that, and after
> a while of forth and back we followed again what git does here and
> override it. You find the discussions in bugzilla.
How do you turn this off? Ove
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:28:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> (also: journalctl doesn't truncate lines when doing auto-paging)
Could sane auto-paging be backported to systemctl? Things like this can
make all the difference between a lovable and an unlovable tool.
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On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 17:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> There's a lock (building_lock) which stops two threads from the same
> process from entering the appliance building code in parallel.
>
> There's also a lock (fcntl held on the file 'checksums') which stops
> two processes owned by the
Fedora 19 has gone through yet another change to how network interfaces
are renamed (biosdevname, etc.). This isn't mentioned in the "Changes
in Fedora for System Administrators" section of the Release Notes,
though it does seem to be in the Changes for Desktop Users section.
Is there any reason
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:36:55 +0200
Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 09:25 PM, Conrad Meyer wrote:
>
> > By default, bcache runs a write-through cache -- it only
> > caches clean data. If the caching SSD dies, the bcache
> > layer can just forward requests to spinning drive. No
> > data is l
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:41:22AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled
> rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were
> dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.
> This allows users t
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 05:42:00PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:50:10AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > I'm not even sure
> > > how to do that because we want the atomic behaviour of hard links, and
Greetings.
After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled
rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were
dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.
This allows users to use the latest boot.iso or pxe images to install
rawh
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:50:10AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > I'm not even sure
> > how to do that because we want the atomic behaviour of hard links, and
> > we want to have qemu running as a different user (for security, oh the
On Tue, 16.07.13 18:09, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 16.07.13 09:42, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
> >
> > > > journalctl only supports local time specifications when you
> > > > specify calenda
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 18:26, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:09:54PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> > >
> > > Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
> > > date wit
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:33:23PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:09:54PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> >>
> >> Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
> >> date without a year? I really expected
On Tue, 16.07.13 18:26, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:09:54PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> >
> > Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
> > date without a year? I really expected journalctl to cleanup this as
> > well.
>
> Th
journalctl -n 1 ?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:09:54PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
>>
>> Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
>> date without a year? I really expected journalctl to cleanup this as
>> well.
>
> Tha
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 06:09:54PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
>
> Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
> date without a year? I really expected journalctl to cleanup this as
> well.
That would be nice, ”journalctl” output would match rsyslog:
% tail -1 /var/log/mes
On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 12:42 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-07-13 at 08:30 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 00:09:26 -0700,
> >Adam Williamson wrote:
> > >
> > >Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas on the cause, for a bug report?
> >
> > I didn't see the
On Tue, 16.07.13 17:57, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
> > > Will journalctl also mention that there is a broken jorunal file? Does
> > > it support to "fsck" the journal or to show the not properly referenced
> > > data to the admin?
> >
> > journalctl will not show you that, but librar
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 09:42, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
>
> > > journalctl only supports local time specifications when you
> > > specify calendar times. Unfortunately there's no nice API to map
> > > calendar times that
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:55:40 +0200
Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 07/15/2013 12:34 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>
> > I'm not suggesting we need to rebuild images for every update, but
> > at a minimum, when we issue CVE / security errata that affects an
> > image, I'd expect us to also rebuild and
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 13:48 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Proposed Self Contained Change: FreeIPA OTP UI =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IPAv3OTPUI
Change owner(s): Nathaniel McCallum
FreeIPA will gain a user interface for managing users'
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:24:17PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> = Proposed System Wide Change: Change Packaging Guidelines to discourage
> requires into /bin and /sbin =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoBinDeps
> == Scope ==
> Proposal owners: None
> Other developers: replace all ex
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:21:43PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 14:41, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:25:54PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > > I am pretty sure that is just a misunderstanding. Note that journald
> > > (i.e
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 15:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I'm not even sure
> how to do that because we want the atomic behaviour of hard links, and
> we want to have qemu running as a different user (for security, oh the
> irony), so there's no other obvious way to code it.
Can you link to
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