Am 16.07.2013 21:45, schrieb john.flor...@dart.biz:
>> From: h.rei...@thelounge.net
>>
>> i am *strictly* against all this truncate and autopaging and for
>> me "GIT does the same" is no argument - a mistake is not better
>> because others do the same.............
>>
>> if i want paging i do " | less" or " | more"
>> *this* is the unix way of work
>>
>> but who am i...............
>>
> While I'm no more important than the next guy, I'll defend the auto-pager 
> feature of both git and journalctl.  I
> love it, in fact.  I'm no stranger to very long pipelines and sub-shells but 
> I see nothing but benefit in not
> having to add "| less" routinely to things that are UI in nature.  These 
> auto-pagers get out of the way immediately
> if you need a pipeline, so what's the harm?  In fact, you can still 
> "journalctl | less" or the like if you really
> want to.

you could also do
alias journalctl="journalctl | less"
to achive the same

hence my konsole has scrollbars, i do not like autopaging and whatever
is not pure unix because there are mechs to achieve whatever you need
and with GIt and systemctl/journalctl whe have a inconsistent behavior

in any case *truncate* outputs is a absolutely no-go

the ordinary user does not look at all this things and the
advanced which have a reson to look get stripped informations



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