Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> > >> I think the problem is GRUB2's own install script/app, doesn't do a great > >> job of accounting for disks partit

Re: New ETL version needed for synfig update

2012-02-13 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On Mon 13 Feb 2012 04:55:03 AM PST, Jon Ciesla wrote: Have you filed a bug against that package to alert the maintainer? https://bugzilla.redhat.com If not, that would be a great first step. Done. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790249 I found out Lubomir is the maintainer. I co

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> I think the problem is GRUB2's own install script/app, doesn't do a great >> job of accounting for disks partitioned where the 1st partition comes less >> than 35KB after the MBR

[Test-Announce] Proven tester status

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
Just wanted to make note of the current status of proven testers. As decided by FESCo late last year, proven tester feedback now has exactly the same status as non-proven tester feedback, effectively rendering it pointless to be a proven tester. I have added a note about this to the proven tester

Architectures supported by LSB, fedora, ubuntu and kvm

2012-02-13 Thread Xibo Ning
Hello, Just as the subject, I made a text table. It's simple. The column name explains itself. I think it is usefull for somebody. The table also contains two columns: 'is_fedora_kvm_support?' and 'is_ubuntu_kvm_support?'. The two columns tell us whether fedora/ubuntn kvm could virtualize the ar

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:16 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I did Fedora 16 Respin iso install with all latest packages, including > > latest Anaconda package, and still had this issue. > > > > There were two ntfs partitions (W

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120213 changes

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 19:36 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:33 +, Branched Report wrote: > > Hi, > on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/i386/os/images/ > we got boot.iso > on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/x86_64/os/images/ > we got macbo

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120213 changes

2012-02-13 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 12:49 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:36:21 + > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:33 +, Branched Report wrote: > > > > Hi, > > on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/i386/os/images/ > > we got boot.iso > > on

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 13, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 02/13/2012 03:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Fedora DE vs KDE spin download ratio compared to past release ratios would >> be more suggestive of a trend, if it exists. > > Not necessarily - I always used the standard DVD to install an

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/13/2012 03:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Fedora DE vs KDE spin download ratio compared to past release ratios would be > more suggestive of a trend, if it exists. Not necessarily - I always used the standard DVD to install and use KDE and frankly never used the KDE spin - not once. gen

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:16 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > > I did Fedora 16 Respin iso install with all latest packages, including > latest Anaconda package, and still had this issue. > > There were two ntfs partitions (Windows 7 + data partition) and 30 GB > of free space. > > From 30GB

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 --- Comment #3 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 2012-02-13 16:19:23 EST --- Unfortunately I am not however Jon ( limburgher ) has bee

Re: ConsoleKit in F17

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > While we hope to complete this for the desktop spin, we don't expect all > spins to be free of ConsoleKit users in time for F17. Therefore, we need > to make sure that CK continues to function - which is why we've put > pam-ck-connector into the gdm pam stacks today. Spins

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
I'm going to reply to both in one go here: drago01 wrote: >> Why must a desktop resemble the windows 95 UI paradigm? Because that is what all current computer users are used to! And an "inconvenient" fact often ignored in usability studies is that the vast majority of your users will NOT be n

[Bug 789784] Provide native systemd service

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789784 --- Comment #2 from Richard W.M. Jones 2012-02-13 15:46:03 EST --- Jóhann, if you are PP, feel free to commit this. -- Config

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > The LQ poll proves it was the latter. I don't like Gnome 3 either. From the largely outsider perspective and new to linux in general, I get the impression Gnome dev is on a mission, of unknown origin, and could absolutely care less about any

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: > The poll is scientifically useless and you know that; and the one Olav > linked shows the opposite by the way. The one Olav linked to said only "GNOME" rather than "GNOME 3" or "GNOME Shell" and as such people who are still sticking with GNOME 2 will have voted for GNOME too. Se

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120213 changes

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:36:21 + Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:33 +, Branched Report wrote: > > Hi, > on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/i386/os/images/ > we got boot.iso > on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/x86_64/os/images/ > we got

[perl-Class-Load] Created tag perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc18

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc18' was created pointing to: 1e3ce9f... Update to 0.17 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-Class-Load] Created tag perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc17

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Class-Load-0.17-1.fc17' was created pointing to: 1e3ce9f... Update to 0.17 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[Bug 695597] Providing native systemd file for upcoming F15 Feature Systemd

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695597 Jon Ciesla changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 695589] Providing native systemd file for upcoming F15 Feature Systemd

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695589 Jon Ciesla changed: What|Removed |Added

[perl-Class-Load/f17] Update to 0.17

2012-02-13 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 1e3ce9f... Update to 0.17 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Undeprecating python-mwlib

2012-02-13 Thread Ian Weller
python-mwlib is currently deprecated. We dropped it about a year or two ago because of hellish dependencies. Some of the issues have been cleaned up so it's now up for re-review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=790154 This email is being sent because of this policy: https://fedora

FESCo Meeting Minutes (2012-02-13)

2012-02-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-02-13) === Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fesco.2012-02-13-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary -

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120213 changes

2012-02-13 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 10:33 +, Branched Report wrote: Hi, on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/i386/os/images/ we got boot.iso on http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched/x86_64/os/images/ we got macboot.img and efiboot.img what happened to boot.iso ? . To start one

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Cronenworth
drago01 wrote: Why must a desktop resemble the windows 95 UI paradigm? You call that unconventional I call that progress. Not even Microsoft is staying with the 95 UI. @Kevin, Windows 8 will look more like Gnome Shell than KDE. What then? Will we see millions of Windows users flock to Mac? I

Re: Rpmbuild unable to recognize used libs?

2012-02-13 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: >> There still seems to be problems. I rebuilt it locally with an updated >> F16 and now I get: >> $ rpm -qp --requires >> /home/andrea/rpmbuild/SRPMS/tecnoballz-0.92-13.fc16.src.rpm

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matej Cepl wrote: >> Kevin? >> >> I am usually close to being on your side in most flamewars here, but >> changing the release policy based on the vote of 627 people on a random >> website? Really? > > It's not just that website. Survey the Fe

Re: Rpmbuild unable to recognize used libs?

2012-02-13 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > There still seems to be problems. I rebuilt it locally with an updated > F16 and now I get: > $ rpm -qp --requires > /home/andrea/rpmbuild/SRPMS/tecnoballz-0.92-13.fc16.src.rpm > autoconf > SDL_image-devel > SDL_mixer-devel > mikmod-deve

Re: Rpmbuild unable to recognize used libs?

2012-02-13 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 02/11/2012 02:52 PM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>     a reporter just submitted this bug against tecnoballz: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789544 >> >> After closer inspection, I see that the RPM doesn't requ

ConsoleKit in F17

2012-02-13 Thread Matthias Clasen
As part of the ckremoval feature [1], things have been steadily ported away from ConsoleKit api to logind. While we hope to complete this for the desktop spin, we don't expect all spins to be free of ConsoleKit users in time for F17. Therefore, we need to make sure that CK continues to function

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matej Cepl wrote: > Kevin? > > I am usually close to being on your side in most flamewars here, but > changing the release policy based on the vote of 627 people on a random > website? Really? It's not just that website. Survey the Fedora blogs a bit to see how many people switched away from GNOM

Re: Schedule for today's FESCo Meeting (2012-02-13)

2012-02-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 12:44 -0500, Omair Majid wrote: > On 02/13/2012 12:35 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > > meeting today at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on > > irc.freenode.net. > > > > [snip] > > > For more co

Schedule for today's FESCo Meeting (2012-02-13)

2012-02-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting today at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #799 Issues with maintainer responsiveness

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:47 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Let me put it this way, then: Fedora is released on a six month cycle, > > which is far faster than is usually considered desirable for server > > usage. It has a 13 month lifet

Fedora 17 Alpha status: outstanding blockers

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. To try and help avoid slips this release cycle, I'll be notifying this list more systematically of outstanding blocker bugs as we approach RC spin dates and release dates. Starting now! We are due to compose the first Fedora 17 Alpha release candidate this Thursday. In order to spin a r

Re: PCRE 8.30 will break API

2012-02-13 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-02-09, Petr Pisar wrote: > > Result is pcre library has changed SONAME from libpcre.so.0 to > libpcre.so.1. Other librararies (pcrecpp, pcreposix) delivered with this > package remain compatible. > > Because pcre library is part of minimal build root I choosed following > strategy to avoid

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] CGAL license change to (L)GPLv3+

2012-02-13 Thread Tom Callaway
On 02/13/2012 09:42 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 15:29 +0100, Laurent Rineau wrote: >> Le mardi 07 février 2012 14:21:53 Laurent Rineau a écrit : >>> From release 4.0, the CGAL libraries will be released under LGPLv3+ for the >>> foundations, and GPLv3+ for the high level pack

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:59 PM, David Lehman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the >> worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. >> Partitioning hasn't changed. TC

Re: Heads up: Ruby 1.9.3 landed in Rawhide

2012-02-13 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 11.2.2012 16:42, Steve Grubb napsal(a): On Monday, February 06, 2012 09:31:50 AM Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Ruby 1.9.3 has finally made it into Rawhide, there are still few more packages that need to be built, but otherwise the transitions was successful. Please note again, that soname has been

[Bug 789571] amavisd needs a systemd unit

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789571 Nicolas Mailhot changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: CGAL license change to (L)GPLv3+

2012-02-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 15:29 +0100, Laurent Rineau wrote: > Le mardi 07 février 2012 14:21:53 Laurent Rineau a écrit : > > From release 4.0, the CGAL libraries will be released under LGPLv3+ for the > > foundations, and GPLv3+ for the high level packages (instead of LGPLv2 and > > QPL respectively).

[Bug 789571] amavisd needs a systemd unit

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 789977] perl-Module-Runtime-0.012 is available

2012-02-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789977 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: CGAL license change to (L)GPLv3+

2012-02-13 Thread Laurent Rineau
Le mardi 07 février 2012 14:21:53 Laurent Rineau a écrit : > From release 4.0, the CGAL libraries will be released under LGPLv3+ for the > foundations, and GPLv3+ for the high level packages (instead of LGPLv2 and > QPL respectively). In the CGAL.spec file, I mentionned "License: LGPLv3+ and GPLv3

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Let me put it this way, then: Fedora is released on a six month cycle, > which is far faster than is usually considered desirable for server > usage. It has a 13 month lifetime, which is far shorter than is usually > considered desirable f

Re: New ETL version needed for synfig update

2012-02-13 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Hello, > > Upstream synfig has updated ETL to  0.04.14. The new version of synfig and > synfigstudio depend on the recent update of that package. Is it possible to > update it? Have you filed a bug against that package to alert the main

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-13 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25:08PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:09:41PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> >> Hmm, you are aware that you reach the

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:25:08PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:09:41PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> Hmm, you are aware that you reach the biggest compat by just symlinking > >> /bin to /usr/bin? > > > >

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-13 Thread drago01
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:09:41PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> Hmm, you are aware that you reach the biggest compat by just symlinking >> /bin to /usr/bin? > > Yeah, that's the end goal, but we need rpm to support replacing > dir

File CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.015.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2012-02-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools: 72cb59cfe6d6c78d1cb1fc77aaa7ecca CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.015.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: /usrmove?

2012-02-13 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:09:41PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Hmm, you are aware that you reach the biggest compat by just symlinking > /bin to /usr/bin? Yeah, that's the end goal, but we need rpm to support replacing directories with symlinks first. Thus we don't rush the change. Cheers,

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On 13.2.2012 01:12, Kevin Kofler wrote: IMHO, not only should the KDE spin become the default, but the Xfce spin should replace the GNOME spin (which of course needs to stop calling itself the "Desktop spin") on the mirrors. GNOME is no longer a major desktop! Xfce is now the second most popular

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-13 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/10/2012 07:12 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> Given all that, it seems only logical to conclude that Fedora really >> _isn't_ primarily intended for use as a production server. > > Bingo, which is why it's important for people like me who do it to > realize what they're getting into and take some re

Re: F-17 Branched report: 20120211 changes

2012-02-13 Thread Johannes Lips
Alright to answer my own question: It was already orphaned in the last round before f16. So it's probably worth reviving! But I think the associated workload with reviving a package could be lowered, just to make it easier for contributors! On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Johannes Lips wrote: >