2009/10/21 Uriel :
> Surf should *not* handle downloads or display source, this are clearly
> and obviously best handled by external tools and there is zero reason
> for them to be part of any browser.
I disagree with downloads, because several stuff can't be download
without dealing with a valid
2009/10/22 Alex Matviychuk :
> I'm floating eclipse across the length of 1.5 monitors using xinerama.
> Whenever I use a dialog inside eclipse, it tries to center itself and
> considers the center as the center of the first monitor. Is there a
> way to fix this? Or is there a better way of streachi
2009/10/21 markus schnalke :
> [2009-10-21 14:48] Peter John Hartman
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Colin Shea wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Peter John Hartman
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Can we put the various keybindings used in dmenu
>> > in config.h rather than dmenu.c?
>
>> >
sORRY FOR THE NOISE, BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING TO SHARE THIS CELEBRATION
WITH
ALL YOU. tODAY IS THE INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY.
HTTP://CAPSLOCKDAY.COM
hOPE YOU ALL ENJOY.
hOPEFULLY THERE IS NO HTML/XML DAY.
--PANCAKE
On 22/10/2009, pancake wrote:
> sORRY FOR THE NOISE, BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING TO SHARE THIS CELEBRATION
> WITH
> ALL YOU. tODAY IS THE INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY.
>
> HTTP://CAPSLOCKDAY.COM
>
OH...THANKS!
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http://jessta.id.au
WHEE, THIS PAGE DISPLAYS WHAT CAPSLOCK IS ON A MODEL M :)
WHAT IF ONE HAS REMAPPED HIS CAPSLOCK AND USES IT AS DWM MODKEY LIKE ME?
REGARDS
MORITZ WILHELMY
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:21:19PM +1100, Jessta wrote:
> On 22/10/2009, pancake wrote:
> > sORRY FOR THE NOISE, BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING TO
2009/10/22 Moritz Wilhelmy :
> WHAT IF ONE HAS REMAPPED HIS CAPSLOCK AND USES IT AS DWM MODKEY LIKE ME?
I USE IT AS A CONTROL KEY, AS IT SHOULD BE. Also, this is a highly
obnoxious holiday.
--
Samuel Baldwin - logik.li
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
2009/10/21 Uriel :
Surf should *not* handle downloads or display source, this are clearly
and obviously best handled by external tools and there is zero reason
for them to be part of any browser.
I disagree with downloads, because several stuff can
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:11:54 -0400 (EDT)
Peter John Hartman wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>
> > 2009/10/21 Uriel :
> >> Surf should *not* handle downloads or display source, this are
> >> clearly and obviously best handled by external tools and there is
> >> zero reas
How annoying, now I have press shift all the time so I get correctly
cased characters. What a retarded idea.
--Valentin
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Description: PGP signature
The source looks better in vim (R)
This list is write-only and sometimes read is permitted.
The problem is that I find no way to get the source of the page from
the webkit API. This is why surf implements this by using the API to
watch the source. And this is also producing a page reload. So
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:14:40AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
> 2009/10/22 Alex Matviychuk :
> > I'm floating eclipse across the length of 1.5 monitors using xinerama.
> > Whenever I use a dialog inside eclipse, it tries to center itself and
> > considers the center as the center of the first mon
2009/10/22 pancake :
> The source looks better in vim (R)
I am not 100% sure Webkit does this, though Firefox certainly does.
view-source fixes some problems in HTML, so when you copy and paste
Web content, it's likely to be actually valid or tidied.
`vim http://suckless.org` is good, though I th
yeah, what a great idea...
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:14:40AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>> 2009/10/22 Alex Matviychuk :
>> > I'm floating eclipse across the length of 1.5 monitors using xinerama.
>> > Whenever I use a dialog inside ecli
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Valentin wrote:
> How annoying, now I have press shift all the time so I get correctly
> cased characters. What a retarded idea.
JUST SELECT A FONT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE LOWER-CASE LETTERS
--
# KURT H MAIER
* pancake [2009-10-22 14:43]:
> The source looks better in vim (R)
+1
> About downloads, te only issue to get it right is the cookies, so I
> would like to be able to get the cookie for a session to use with wget
> or curl.
+1
> Btw I still find necessary the contextual menu to get URL of
Your way cannot use cookies or keep sessions. The most interesting
HTML sources are usually after a login page
On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Kai Hendry wrote:
2009/10/22 pancake :
The source looks better in vim (R)
I am not 100% sure Webkit does this, though Firefox certainly does.
view-so
On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is usually one or more of:
- keeping and sending cookie data
- keeping the same ip (and maybe user agent)
- requesting the urls t
On 22-10-2009 09:09:25, Charlie Kester wrote:
> On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> >
> >what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
> >serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is usually one or more of:
> >- keeping and sending cookie data
> >- keepi
2009/10/22 Charlie Kester :
> On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
>>
>> what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
>> serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is usually one or more of:
>> - keeping and sending cookie data
>> - keeping the same ip (and
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:15:58 +0200
Tadeusz Sośnierz wrote:
> On 22-10-2009 09:09:25, Charlie Kester wrote:
> > On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> > >
> > >what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
> > >serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:42:49PM +0200, pancake wrote:
> Btw I still find necessary the contextual menu to get URL of image, URL
> of link .. Download in a separated window/client/app.
I totally agree, it was a good feature that I would also welcome back.
At the moment the two lower items of
[2009-10-22 08:08] Anselm R Garbe
>
> I have no strong feeling about source viewing, doesn't need to be
> build-in, but since it's already implemented by webkit the source
> viewing and profiling info of WebKit might be worth being made
> accessible through surf, [...]
It it's something that bu
Hi,
I updated my arch-system one minute ago and surf seems to segfault with
the newest webkit (1.1.15.3).
I recompiled the newest surf from hg, and the same happens.
GDB said:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xb6a8f3de in g_main_context_prepare () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.s
[2009-10-22 14:42] pancake
>
> The problem is that I find no way to get the source of the page from
> the webkit API. This is why surf implements this by using the API to
> watch the source.
The right way is to get the download problem solved and then download
the source.
meillo
[2009-10-22 18:15] Tadeusz =?utf-8?B?U2/Fm25pZXJ6?=
> On 22-10-2009 09:09:25, Charlie Kester wrote:
> > On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> > >
> > >what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
> > >serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is usually
Tadeusz Sośnierz dixit (2009-10-22, 18:15):
> > Perhaps we should be thinking about separating them?
>
> Then we will end up with some shit like uzbl - the browser which cannot
> browse the web.
Why not? Just curious, haven't been using any of those yet.
--
[a]
* Tadeusz Sośnierz [2009-10-22 18:17]:
> Then we will end up with some shit like uzbl - the browser which cannot
> browse the web.
What web do you have there? It must be a strange one. I haven't used any
other X browser at home for months (except for testing surf). Please
consider to try to local
On 22-10-2009 19:14:10, sta...@cs.tu-berlin.de wrote:
> * Tadeusz Sośnierz [2009-10-22 18:17]:
> > Then we will end up with some shit like uzbl - the browser which cannot
> > browse the web.
>
> What web do you have there? It must be a strange one. I haven't used any
> other X browser at home for
hi!
It seems this is caused by archlinux libwebkit release. Downgrade
you're webkit to an earlier release. uzbl has the same problem. For
some strange reason midori still works...
regards
2009/10/22 Moritz Wilhelmy :
> Hi,
>
> I updated my arch-system one minute ago and surf seems to segfault wi
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Julien Steinhauser wrote:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:42:49PM +0200, pancake wrote:
Btw I still find necessary the contextual menu to get URL of image, URL
of link .. Download in a separated window/client/app.
I totally agree, it was a good feature that I would also wel
Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright
symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only
non-ASCII character in those files.
I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyright (c)''.
(``(c)'' alone is not enough from the lawyer POV, AFAIK.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:40:13PM +0200, markus schnalke wrote:
> Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright
> symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only
> non-ASCII character in those files.
>
> I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:40 PM, markus schnalke wrote:
> Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright
> symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only
> non-ASCII character in those files.
>
> I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyrig
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM, A.J. Gardner wrote:
> Then again, why bother appealing to copy "rights" and similar hooey in
> the first place? I always consider it to be enough simply to appeal to
> good sense, good manners, and social pressure to ensure credit is
> given where credit is due. So
chromium also works.
Maybe this is intended to piss every uzbl and surf-user off? :D
Regards
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:23:01PM +0200, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
> hi!
>
> It seems this is caused by archlinux libwebkit release. Downgrade
> you're webkit to an earlier release. uzbl has the same
To attempt to bring it back on topic, here are my thoughts:
Any software that can't handle utf-8 should be replaced with software that
sucks less.
However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless
projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of
whic
Actually chromium does not use libwebkit.
2009/10/22 Moritz Wilhelmy :
> chromium also works.
>
> Maybe this is intended to piss every uzbl and surf-user off? :D
>
> Regards
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:23:01PM +0200, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
>> hi!
>>
>> It seems this is caused by archlinux
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:00:34PM -0500, A.J. Gardner wrote:
Then again, why bother appealing to copy "rights" and similar hooey in
the first place? I always consider it to be enough simply to appeal to
good sense, good manners, and social pressure to ensure credit is
given where credit is due.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:17:19PM -0400, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote:
However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless
projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of
which may suck) is a Good Thing.
Since this change requires no real effort and can sli
On 10/22/09, A.J. Gardner wrote:
> given where credit is due. Something like "Notice: So-and-so created
> this work. Do what you like with it, but don't claim you came up with
> it 'cause that's lying. And nobody likes a liar. Thanks."
let me guess.. you are not a lawyer
berne convention (1886)
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:23:01 +0200
"Enno Boland (Gottox)" wrote:
> hi!
>
> It seems this is caused by archlinux libwebkit release. Downgrade
> you're webkit to an earlier release. uzbl has the same problem. For
> some strange reason midori still works...
>
> regards
what makes you think this i
2009/10/22 markus schnalke :
> Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright
> symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only
> non-ASCII character in those files.
>
> I suggest to replace it with ``Copyright'' or ``Copyright (c)''.
> (``(c)'' alone i
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 09:50:05PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
2009/10/22 markus schnalke :
Dwm, surf, and probably more suckless projects contain the copyright
symbol as UTF-8 character. In most cases, if not always, it is the only
non-ASCII character in those files.
I suggest to replace it w
This whole thread is stupid: the complaint about UTF-8 chars is
stupid, and the "copyright notice" is stupid.
A simple mention in the readme like: "This code is released to the
public domain and under the MIT and ISC licenses, pick whichever
option suits you." should be enough, or if you feel real
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:41:24PM +0200, Davide Anchisi wrote:
I created the tagrule:
/gimp/ -> gimp
in rc.wmii.local
So to tag gimp as gimp when executing it.
It works, but the program does not begin to start until I open the
newly created view.
It turns out that if you run 'gimp -s', this
Hi,
2009/10/23 Kris Maglione :
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 04:17:19PM -0400, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote:
>>
>> However, anything that can be done to make the source code for suckless
>> projects suck less (in regards to its interactions with software, some of
>> which may suck) is a Good Thing.
>>
>> Sinc
Sorry I should of been more clear. I can understand and accept the
dialog centering, but the whole app is being recentered and part of it
is going off screen. I started detaching tabs and dragging them to the
second monitor, but when I switch tags and then switch back, all the
detached tabs jump ba
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:54:07AM +0900, KIMURA Masaru wrote:
How would it make the software suck less? How would it improve interactions
with other software? No one's even posed a good case for this causing
problems at all. So, in a non-UTF-8 locale you don't see a copyright sign.
In 8859-1, yo
Hi,
wmii 3.9 Beta 1 has just been released. As usual, the source is
available at suckless.org:
http://dl.suckless.org/wmii/wmii+ixp-3.9b1.tbz
http://dl.suckless.org/wmii/wmii+ixp-3.9b1.tbz.sum
http://dl.suckless.org/wmii/wmii+ixp-3.9b1.tbz.sig
A new Ununtu repo is also available,
2009/10/23 Kris Maglione :
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:54:07AM +0900, KIMURA Masaru wrote:
>>>
>>> How would it make the software suck less? How would it improve
>>> interactions
>>> with other software? No one's even posed a good case for this causing
>>> problems at all. So, in a non-UTF-8 local
Is stupid to make two http queries because the second one doesn't have
to contain the same as the first one.
Think on a page doing some random contents at every refresh. Think on
referers while refreshing a page. Think on losing the network link
after getting the page rendered.
I hate to
2009/10/23 Alex Matviychuk :
> Sorry I should of been more clear. I can understand and accept the
> dialog centering, but the whole app is being recentered and part of it
> is going off screen. I started detaching tabs and dragging them to the
> second monitor, but when I switch tags and then switc
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