Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-14 Thread Jungtaek Lim
OK, I think we agree to disagree. Your experience is probably opposite to mine. I don't see any discussion in Slack to be indexed into search service but I can be corrected. If you meant by just relying on Slack search I don't agree the quality is the same with Google search (while I agree that you

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-14 Thread Nimrod Ofek
Personally, I never had problems searching within Slack, or if we will do the archiving I suggest to do - the search will be the same. I do not find the search to be good - and you can see that if you search the same thing without mentioning the site - you won't find any of the discussions nowhere

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-14 Thread Jungtaek Lim
Again, I don't think we have outstanding discussions on the fly in dev@, so I would like to hear about "what led us to struggle about figuring out a new communication channel". Where did you find yourself to be not comfortable and what reason was it? I guess the discussion will be just a loop if we

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-14 Thread Nimrod Ofek
I find Slack to be very easy for conversation - and even easier for more serious conversations such as ones regarding SPIP etc. as the context is much clearer and it's easier to follow different threads. As for keeping historic records - as I stated, I really don't mind creating a bot that will cop

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-14 Thread Jungtaek Lim
My 2 cents here: the service is not appropriate to replace user@ or dev@ entirely (even putting aside of ASF policy) if any of the functionality is not fulfilled 1. Infinite retention. See below. This is what the ASF mail archive serves now. You get the history from the incubator. https://lists.a

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-12 Thread Nimrod Ofek
I'm not sure I agree with your assumptions: I think that following a thread is much more easy in Slack compared to multiple email threads- and refreshing my memory on the conversation context for messages is easier as well. I haven't found the indexing of current conversations to be that good- bu

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-12 Thread Nicholas Chammas
If you’re proposing that Slack replace this dev list, then chat is not an appropriate substitute for emails. Conversations fly by on a conveyor belt, context is easily fractured across multiple threads and short messages, information is poorly indexed by search engines, and the lower bar of entr

[DISCUSS] Communicating over Slack instead of e-mails

2024-08-12 Thread Nimrod Ofek
Hi all, Many other oss projects (some of which include some of the participants of this mailing list I'm sure) are using Slack as a more modern communication channel. I find Slack to be more appropriate these days, easier to navigate through groups, easier to see context of different threads and