Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; You are right. My comparison was insensible and way out of line. I apologize and I will take a break from the lists for a while. Pedro.

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Andre Fischer
Everything has been said in this thread, Godwin´s law has been invoked. Unless new information is injected, I ask you let it go and stop this thread. Regards, Andre

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Andre Fischer
Am 03.02.2013 03:33, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir ... So, if you are planning to revert someone elses change and it's really urgent please take the time and write a polite message *before* reverting saying: "Hello Dave, I think this is a reall

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I have no problem with the change that you made, and I said so in my initial > reply. > > My problem is the way that you characterized it. You can be more polite. For > example, "I like the link you added, but I think that the (R) is not corr

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
I have no problem with the change that you made, and I said so in my initial reply. My problem is the way that you characterized it. You can be more polite. For example, "I like the link you added, but I think that the (R) is not correct and so I removed it..." That is all I'm going to say abo

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Rob Weir > ... >>> >>> So, if you are planning to revert someone elses change and it's really >> urgent please >>> take the time and write a polite message *before* reverting saying: >>> >>> "H

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  ... >> >> So, if you are planning to revert someone elses change and it's really > urgent please >> take the time and write a polite message *before* reverting saying: >> >> "Hello Dave, I think this is a really bad idea, I will revert it fo

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> >>> Da: Andrea Pescetti >> ... >>> >>>Joe Schaefer wrote: This tempest in a teapot is not about a wayward revert as you did not completely b

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> >> Da: Andrea Pescetti > ... >> >>Joe Schaefer wrote: >>> This tempest in a teapot is not about >>> a wayward revert as you did not completely >>> back out the commit- you just patched it. >> >>Exactly. It is

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
> > Da: Andrea Pescetti  ... > >Joe Schaefer wrote: >> This tempest in a teapot is not about >> a wayward revert as you did not completely >> back out the commit- you just patched it. > >Exactly. It is rather clear from here: > >http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoff

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Joe Schaefer wrote: This tempest in a teapot is not about a wayward revert as you did not completely back out the commit- you just patched it. Exactly. It is rather clear from here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext?r1=1419051&r2=1441659&diff_format=h

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
>Subject: Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - >/openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext > >On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> >> - Messaggio originale - >>> Da: Tim Williams >> ... >>>

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Tim Williams > ... >>> >>> Then count me uncool then. I did it and I'd do it again in similar >>> circumstances. It is easier to apologize to David later If I'm wrong >>> then for us to have the t

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
- Messaggio originale - > Da: Tim Williams  ... >> >> Then count me uncool then. I did it and I'd do it again in similar >> circumstances.  It is easier to apologize to David later If I'm wrong >> then for us to have the trademark legally invalidated if I was right >> and did not act

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: > If content is noticed and there is concern that there may be legal > ramifications, it seems reasonable that the content would be immediately > modified before review, which is what was done. > > So if I seem something that is wrong

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
If content is noticed and there is concern that there may be legal ramifications, it seems reasonable that the content would be immediately modified before review, which is what was done. So if I seem something that is wrong, should I fix it, or should I ask the person that made the initial er

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Tim Williams wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Williams wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at

Re: Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Tim Williams wrote: > On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Williams wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2013,

Reverting commits [was: Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Tim Williams
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Williams wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Two hours with a wrong (R) if it is wrong won't invalidate anything. There is > room for a mistake. Please just disagree and let me be responsible enough to > make an adjustment. > > If I had not responded in a few hours then what you did is o

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Two hours with a wrong (R) if it is wrong won't invalidate anything. There is room for a mistake. Please just disagree and let me be responsible enough to make an adjustment. If I had not responded in a few hours then what you did is ok. My point is about letting time pass. You do a lot for Op

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Williams wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > -1 I've reverted

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Tim Williams
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: -1 >>> >>> I've reverted that commit. Getting this wrong could have serious >>>

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> -1 >>> >> >> I've reverted that commit. Getting this wrong could have serious >> repercussions, so let's make sure we get it right. > > Not

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> -1 >> > > I've reverted that commit. Getting this wrong could have serious > repercussions, so let's make sure we get it right. Not exactly. You left the link which was the main thing I wanted to

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > -1 > I've reverted that commit. Getting this wrong could have serious repercussions, so let's make sure we get it right. -Rob > Could we please take this to legal-discuss, or to Trademarks@? I know > you think you are protecting the OpenOffice

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Rob Weir
-1 Could we please take this to legal-discuss, or to Trademarks@? I know you think you are protecting the OpenOffice.org trademark. So your intentions are good. But I'm pretty sure that you are actually risking the trademark by applying it to the website when the trademark registration is expl

Re: svn commit: r1441659 - /openoffice/site/trunk/templates/sidenav.mdtext

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Fisher
The next shed to bike ;-) On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:21 PM, w...@apache.org wrote: > Author: wave > Date: Fri Feb 1 23:21:23 2013 > New Revision: 1441659 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1441659&view=rev > Log: > No clear link back to www.openoffice.org > > Modified: >openoffice/site/tr