Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-13 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 19.04.2014 01:53, Kay Schenk wrote: > Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted > things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of Linux, > or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking. > Hi, 2 reasons why someone like me may wa

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > * An interesting academic study would be to evaluate the effect Google has > had in popularizing open standard formats, like ODF, which for > unconscionably long it referred to as "openoffice" format, as well as in > popularizing Linux,

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13 May 2014, at 08:04, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> * An interesting academic study would be to evaluate the effect Google has >> had in popularizing open standard formats, like ODF, which for >> unconscionably long it referred to

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Users shouldn't need to uninstall LibreOffice just like Windows users dont need to uninstall Microsoft Office to try OpenOffice. I thought this issue was solved. It is a packaging issue. So it varies from distribution to distribution. The official packages, last time

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-12 Thread Jose R R
> > On 4/21/14, Rory O'Farrell wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 >> Jose R R wrote: >> >>> Niltze- >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest >>> wrote: >>> > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : >>> > >>> >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-12 Thread Jose R R
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Le 12/05/2014 20:53, Damjan Jovanovic a écrit : > >> For Ubuntu, please register / log into Launchpad and visit >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131253 where you can subscribe >> for notifications and select that the bug affects you

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 12/05/2014 20:53, Damjan Jovanovic a écrit : For Ubuntu, please register / log into Launchpad and visit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1131253 where you can subscribe for notifications and select that the bug affects you too and thus generate a higher bug heat, hopefully persuading pac

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-12 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Users shouldn't need to uninstall LibreOffice just like Windows users dont need to uninstall Microsoft Office to try OpenOffice. I thought this issue was solved. On 4/21/14, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 > Jose R R wrote: > >> Niltze- >> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 1

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-05-12 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 04/20/2014 11:53 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >> >> On 20 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Hagar Delest >> wrote: >> >>> IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is >>> too buggy. So I think that basically, we are back to

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-26 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 25/04/2014 19:07, Kay Schenk a écrit : I've created a wiki page to highlight some of the suggestions. PLEASE feel free to edit it as you see fit! At some point, we can link this in to an FAQ I guess -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Linux+@+Apache+OpenOffice Nicely put

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-26 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, Am 21.04.2014 12:42, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 > Jose R R wrote: > > I have no experience with Debian as a distro, That is a problem of this discussion > only with Debian derivatives such as Ubuntu. As far as I know, it is only necessary to > sudo ap

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-26 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, Am 21.04.2014 21:22, schrieb Hagar Delest: > Le 20/04/2014 20:53, Louis Suárez-Potts a écrit : > > But the job now is to convince distros that it's not anymore the case. > It does not mean that AOO should claim to be default suite again. But > there should be a FAIR choice given to the use

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 04/23/2014 03:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > On 20/04/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Many Linux distros maintain "community" repositories and perhaps its > >> easiest to use that sort of mechanism for reintegration. > > > > Not to dimini

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-23 Thread Kay Schenk
On 04/23/2014 03:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 20/04/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: >> Many Linux distros maintain "community" repositories and perhaps its >> easiest to use that sort of mechanism for reintegration. > > Not to diminish this thread (on the contrary, there were a number of > good mes

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 20/04/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: Many Linux distros maintain "community" repositories and perhaps its easiest to use that sort of mechanism for reintegration. Not to diminish this thread (on the contrary, there were a number of good messages, insightful remarks and a very diverse participation,

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread toki
On April 21, 2014 4:04:30 AM PDT, Detlef Nannen wrote: >May be it is possible to serve a AOO-Package including a Startscript. >Looking for the needed Version, asking for permission and running all >this for a easy Installation. A Job for specialists, but possible? +1 I don't remember the program

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 20/04/2014 20:53, Louis Suárez-Potts a écrit : But I believe that, however loudly we hear the cry of community, what really determines things for Ubuntu and Fedora is what the sponsoring corporation wants and thinks is in its best interests, or at least those of its financial backers. Wel

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread Detlef Nannen
Hi, i am a User, Windows an a little Ubuntu. Every new installation (60% of our PCs runs with Ubuntu) gets AOO as the first new Installation. I am nit a Ubuntu/Linux Guru, Google helps. sudo apt-get purge libreoffice* sudo dpkg -i de/DEBS/*deb sudo dpkg -i de/DEBS/desktop-integration/*deb My So

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread Jose R R
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 > Jose R R wrote: > >> Niltze- >> >> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest >> wrote: >> > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : >> > >> >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 Jose R R wrote: > Niltze- > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest > wrote: > > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : > > > >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted > >> things we read about, basically how non-

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-21 Thread Jose R R
Niltze- On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : > >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted >> things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of >> Linux, >> or Linux is non-supportive of

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, Am 20.04.2014 21:41, schrieb Kay Schenk: > > > On 04/20/2014 11:53 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >> On 20 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Hagar Delest >> wrote: > ...well this is an interesting statement. > > Getting back to both this and Hagar's response. If we see that getting > AOO back int

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Top post…. I propose that in addition to reaching out to distros we also look to enterprise installations; and that we also work closely (if possible) with the Linux Foundation. As to enterprise Linux distributions…. Besides RHEL, there is Univention's Univention Corporate Server. I mention th

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I agree there should be a more concerted efforts to add desktop specific features (not only distros). Meaning a better integration with KDE and Gnome notification system and others. Having libraries that can route messages to the Kdialog (from the libnotify library) and Gnome's Notifications. The

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On 04/20/2014 11:53 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 20 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Hagar Delest wrote: IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is too buggy. So I think that basically, we are back to the question: why AOO is still not available in the standard packages?

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 20 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Hagar Delest wrote: > IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is too buggy. > So I think that basically, we are back to the question: why AOO is still not > available in the standard packages? There are several ways of answering your question

Re: [DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-20 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of Linux, or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking. 1) We do a blog whose main subject is AOO and

[DISCUSS] possible blog topic -- AOO and Linux: a marriage made in heaven! :)

2014-04-18 Thread Kay Schenk
Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of Linux, or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking. 1) We do a blog whose main subject is AOO and Linux and interview some of our Linux volu