Hi,

i am a User, Windows an a little Ubuntu.

Every new installation (60% of our PCs runs with Ubuntu) gets AOO as
the first new Installation.
I am nit a Ubuntu/Linux Guru, Google helps.

sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo dpkg -i de/DEBS/*deb
sudo dpkg -i de/DEBS/desktop-integration/*deb

My Son made a script (with parameters) for this, including downloading
and unzipping the AOO-File.
Works fine Debian Wheezy and Ubuntu, and I think it would run with Mint.

May be it is possible to serve a AOO-Package including a Startscript.
Looking for the needed Version, asking for permission and running all
this for a easy Installation. A Job for specialists, but possible?

-- 
Detlef


2014-04-21 12:35 GMT+02:00 Jose R R <jose....@metztli.com>:
> Niltze-
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest <hagar.del...@laposte.net> 
> wrote:
>> Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit :
>>
>>> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the twisted
>>> things we read about, basically how  non-supportive either AOO is of
>>> Linux,
>>> or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking.
>>>
>>> 1) We do a blog whose main subject is AOO and Linux and interview some of
>>> our  Linux volunteers/users  (hopefully a nice dstro cross section --
>>> Fedora, Ubuntu. openSUSE, Mint?) and ask them why they're using AOO and
>>> how
>>> did they find the installation given that it isn't available in their
>>> existing repositories.
>>>
>>> -- or --
>>>
>>> 2) We do a Linux centered blog on what support we provide for Linux, what
>>> Linux packages AOO provides wtih additional distribution details,  and why
>>> they're not in repositories for distributions. On the latter point, I'm
>>> thinking talk about whose job this is, etc.
>>>
>>> I think we really should do something a bit more visible on this topic,
>>> and
>>> hopefully some of the open source press can pick it up.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>> IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is too
>> buggy.
>> So I think that basically, we are back to the question: why AOO is still not
>> available in the standard packages?
>>
>> As long as it is not easily available, users won't bother removing another
>> application to install AOO. Especially if it involves command line (to
>> install but also sometimes to remove the default suite).
> [..]
>
> On an initial Debian installation, if GNOME is selected, it will
> install LO by default.
>
> Accordingly the burden falls on the user to remove LO:
>
> $ sudo su
> $ apt-get purge libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-common
> libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk
> libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math
> libreoffice-writer
>
> Note, however that, once downloaded, it is not intuitive for a
> relatively novice (i.e., Ubuntu user) to install ApacheOO since after
> expanding its *.tar.gz file, there appears a directory: en-US (or
> whatever the locale selected).
>
> The user then must become root (super user) or prefix su to install at
> /opt/ privileged directory:
>
> $ sudo su
> $ dpkg -i en-US/DEBS/*deb
>
> AND then still there is no link for the the user with normal
> privileges to start up ApacheOO from the normal PATH directory
> /usr/bin/. And thus root privilege is required again to create the
> appropriate symlink there; the most simple one (I think) and that
> would not be overwritten by an subsequent (accidental installation of
> LO) would be:
>
> $ sudo su
> $ cd /usr/bin
> $ ln -s /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice  apacheeoo
> $ cd /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
> $ ln -s soffice.bin apacheoo.bin
>
> The above just creates a symbolic link required due to our use of
> apacheoo instead of the default soffice/soffice.bin that is used by LO
> as well.
>
> Now the Ubuntu user would have to create executable icons for the
> ApacheeOO productivity apps to match the default LO that is now
> removed. On the other hand, those of us who don't care simply start
> ApacheOO from a shell as a normal user now:
>
> $ apacheoo &
>
> Is it obvious now -- as MS did before by preinstalling its own
> constrained software and denying users the freedom of choice -- why
> ApacheOO may be lacking traction on GNU/Linux?
>
>
> Best Professional Regards.
>
> --
> Jose R R
> http://www.metztli-it.com
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