> > On 4/21/14, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:35:15 -0700 >> Jose R R <jose....@metztli.com> wrote: >> >>> Niltze- >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Hagar Delest <hagar.del...@laposte.net> >>> wrote: >>> > Le 19/04/2014 01:53, Kay Schenk a écrit : >>> > >>> >> Ok, maybe the subject is bit melodramatic but after some of the >>> >> twisted >>> >> things we read about, basically how non-supportive either AOO is of >>> >> Linux, >>> >> or Linux is non-supportive of AOO, here's what I'm thinking. >>> >> >>> >> 1) We do a blog whose main subject is AOO and Linux and interview some >>> >> of >>> >> our Linux volunteers/users (hopefully a nice dstro cross section -- >>> >> Fedora, Ubuntu. openSUSE, Mint?) and ask them why they're using AOO >>> >> and >>> >> how >>> >> did they find the installation given that it isn't available in their >>> >> existing repositories. >>> >> >>> >> -- or -- >>> >> >>> >> 2) We do a Linux centered blog on what support we provide for Linux, >>> >> what >>> >> Linux packages AOO provides wtih additional distribution details, and >>> >> why >>> >> they're not in repositories for distributions. On the latter point, >>> >> I'm >>> >> thinking talk about whose job this is, etc. >>> >> >>> >> I think we really should do something a bit more visible on this >>> >> topic, >>> >> and >>> >> hopefully some of the open source press can pick it up. >>> >> >>> >> Thoughts? >>> >> >>> > IMHO, most users just take what's provided by default. Unless it is too >>> > buggy. >>> > So I think that basically, we are back to the question: why AOO is still >>> > not >>> > available in the standard packages? >>> > >>> > As long as it is not easily available, users won't bother removing >>> > another >>> > application to install AOO. Especially if it involves command line (to >>> > install but also sometimes to remove the default suite). >>> [..] >>> >>> On an initial Debian installation, if GNOME is selected, it will >>> install LO by default. >>> >>> Accordingly the burden falls on the user to remove LO: >>> >>> $ sudo su >>> $ apt-get purge libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-common >>> libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk >>> libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math >>> libreoffice-writer >> >> I have no experience with Debian as a distro, only with Debian derivatives >> such as Ubuntu. As far as I know, it is only necessary to >> sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-core >> to remove all libreoffice, before installing OpenOffice. >> >>> >>> Note, however that, once downloaded, it is not intuitive for a >>> relatively novice (i.e., Ubuntu user) to install ApacheOO since after >>> expanding its *.tar.gz file, there appears a directory: en-US (or >>> whatever the locale selected). >>> >>> The user then must become root (super user) or prefix su to install at >>> /opt/ privileged directory: >>> >>> $ sudo su >>> $ dpkg -i en-US/DEBS/*deb >>> >>> AND then still there is no link for the the user with normal >>> privileges to start up ApacheOO from the normal PATH directory >>> /usr/bin/. And thus root privilege is required again to create the >>> appropriate symlink there; the most simple one (I think) and that >>> would not be overwritten by an subsequent (accidental installation of >>> LO) would be: >>> >>> $ sudo su >>> $ cd /usr/bin >>> $ ln -s /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice apacheeoo >>> $ cd /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice >>> $ ln -s soffice.bin apacheoo.bin >>> >>> The above just creates a symbolic link required due to our use of >>> apacheoo instead of the default soffice/soffice.bin that is used by LO >>> as well. >>> >>> Now the Ubuntu user would have to create executable icons for the >>> ApacheeOO productivity apps to match the default LO that is now >>> removed. On the other hand, those of us who don't care simply start >>> ApacheOO from a shell as a normal user now: >>> >>> $ apacheoo & >>> >>> Is it obvious now -- as MS did before by preinstalling its own >>> constrained software and denying users the freedom of choice -- why >>> ApacheOO may be lacking traction on GNU/Linux? >>> >>> >>> Best Professional Regards. >>> >>> -- >>> Jose R R >>> http://www.metztli-it.com >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> NEW Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1! 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Oh, and the command line approach described is adequate for those of us who use other window managers, like WMaker (< http://windowmaker.org >), in addition to GNOME and/or KDE. Best Professional Regards. -- Jose R R http://www.metztli-it.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0! Download for GNU/Linux, Mac OS, Windows. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daylight Saving Time in USA & Canada ends: Sunday, November 02, 2014 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
