Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex FalconJX 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Big problem: I think I might have just discovered a problem with the latest Falcon. I’m not getting any css files when I compile. I tested using the refactor-sprite branch. I’ll test on the main branch, but I’m pretty sure it’s a Falcon problem… :-( On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Alex Harui wro

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
+1000 Documentation is the first thing people look for in a framework. This is absolutely critical (more than functionality and production apps). Unfortunately, I’m really bad at documentation, so I can’t help much with this. AFA productions apps go, my conversion to FlexJS is moving along quit

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex FalconJX 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Nope. It does not look like the CSS files are output correctly in the 0.7.0 release… :-( I think this is bad enough to require an RC2 or a really quick hotfix release. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Harbs wrote: > Big problem: > > I think I might have just discovered a problem with the latest F

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex FalconJX 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Scratch that. I used the falcon develop branch for compiling. It looks like Alex just changed something there related to CSS files. I’m trying to compile using an older version of the code to see what happens. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Harbs wrote: > Nope. It does not look like the CSS file

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
I think falcon and falconjx can be blurred. I thought we agreed on "FlexJS Compiler" (falcon/falconjx), "FlexJS Typedefs” (typedefs) and "FlexJS Framework" (asjs) On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:45 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > I see it the same way ... Flex and FlexJS is good for me. The only thing I >

AW: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Harbs, well that's what I'm using when talking about FlexJS, but I couldn't remember us actually agreeing on that ;-) Chris Von: Harbs Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. September 2016 09:33:44 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming fo

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache Flex FalconJX 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Sorry for the disturbance. The problem was that the falcon version did not match the asjs version and the new css interface was not being used… I’m having another issue with the latest version of falcon, but that will be a separate thread… On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Harbs wrote: > Scratch t

[FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
I’m getting an error when compiling my app with the latest build of Falcon which I’m not seeing in the 0.7.0 release: Object.defineProperties(org.apache.flex.html.supportClasses.Viewport.prototype, /** @lends {org.apache.flex.html.supportClasses.Viewport.prototype} */ { /** @export */ contentVie

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Well, if no one has objections, we can officially agree on it now… ;-) On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi Harbs, > > > well that's what I'm using when talking about FlexJS, but I couldn't remember > us actually agreeing on that ;-) > > > Chris > >

FlexJS talk on Solutions.Hamburg

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi guys, I just finished my talk at solutions.hamburg conference. I was expecting the worst as my talk was at lunchtime and I was expecting to be torn apart by JavaScript/TypeScript wolves. None of this happened. Ok the number was reduced, but compared to other sessions in parallel I am quit

AW: [MAVEN-BUILD] FlexJS Framework (maven) - Build # 238 - Failure

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Alex, I have had this too several times. This usually is a timing problem of multiple build jobs on a windows system. In this case usually two builds are running in parallel. If the ASJS build uses a jar that is currently built by another Job and that Job replaces the jar in the Maven local

Re: FlexJS talk on Solutions.Hamburg

2016-09-08 Thread OK
Hi Chris, sounds like it was a successful event! Christofer Dutz wrote > By the way, I have my slides on Github: > https://github.com/chrisdutz/flexjs-introduction-de What a great summary, thanks for sharing! It's very nice to read stuff like this in my native language from time to time ;-) Btw

AW: FlexJS talk on Solutions.Hamburg

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Olaf, The reason is that I am creating my presentations as git projects so I can create versions, branches with customizations for different usecases and I can "code my presentation in IntelliJ" ;-) I am just hosting it at Github in order to save/backup/share the presentation, not in orde

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
You have my agreement too! - Josh On Sep 8, 2016 4:15 AM, "Harbs" wrote: > Well, if no one has objections, we can officially agree on it now… ;-) > > On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Christofer Dutz > wrote: > > > Hi Harbs, > > > > > > well that's what I'm using when talking about FlexJS, but I co

Re: FlexJS talk on Solutions.Hamburg

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
15 is good, especially if many were not already following Flex/FlexJS at Apache. Thanks for helping get the word out. It would be interesting to see if there are other conferences we should be trying to go to. -Alex On 9/8/16, 4:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >Hi guys, > > >I just finished m

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
Are you working on a branch in flex-asjs? Have you synched that branch against flex-asjs develop branch? -Alex On 9/8/16, 2:42 AM, "Harbs" wrote: >I’m getting an error when compiling my app with the latest build of >Falcon which I’m not seeing in the 0.7.0 release: > >Object.defineProperties(o

AW: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
+1 :-) from me :-) Chris Von: Josh Tynjala Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. September 2016 16:40:39 An: dev@flex.apache.org Betreff: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Official naming for the "standard" Flex SDK You have my agreement too! - Josh On Sep 8, 2016 4:15 AM, "Harbs" wr

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
What kind of documentation are you talking about? Just filling out ASDoc, or pages of words? There are so many things that need to be done that having folks who aren't currently committing code to FlexJS help with filling out ASDoc and recruiting people who are good at writing to write more verbo

AW: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
I don't quite agree. The problem with FlexJS is that you have to do things differently than with Flex. For Flex the web is full of useful and less useful how-tos on the topic, but for FlexJS there is next to nothing to be found. It would be great to have some Documentation, walking an interes

Re: AW: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 8:31 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: >I don't quite agree. > > >The problem with FlexJS is that you have to do things differently than >with Flex. For Flex the web is full of useful and less useful how-tos on >the topic, but for FlexJS there is next to nothing to be found. For sure, we

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
There really is a need for some better basic documentation. Not even advanced level stuff. We already have some of that, actually. Most users aren't going to start developing custom components and contributing right away, though. They're going to want some more hand holding. Let's say that I went

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
Thanks Josh, more specific information like this is helpful because it narrows down what is missing. We should make the ASDoc more readily available. Adobe had a whole team dedicated to documentation. Apache Flex does not have that, so we need to be smarter about how to make our doc better. Just

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Carlos Rovira
Documentation is crucial if we want to get people embracing the technology. Less info on what is inside FlexJS, the purpose and how to use means less people talking about it. I think the most active people here producing code, components, and other parts of the framework has the responsability not

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
I think we are basically in agreement, but the priority and people matters. For example, we are having a debate about whether the SWF-side code should wrap DisplayObjects or not. That decision will affect documentation and lots of other things. Once we decide that, and prove that you can do usef

RE: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Diabate, Koman
I really love this comment from Josh. "I guarantee you, if the wiki lists all of the components with ridiculously simple examples, and if we post some FlexJS asdocs under the documentation menu on the main site, that's going to make a huge difference." I have been following this mailing list fo

AW: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, And we should keep in mind that there is always the threat of the full time developers no longer being paid for their work on flex. The more undocumented stuff we have, the more the project will suffer in that case. Chris Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet. Urspr

Re: svn commit: r1759747 - /flex/site/trunk/content/installer/sdk-installer-config-4.0.xml

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
Hey Alex, Should you also remove the rc="rc1" here? I just tried using the Installer to download FlexJS 0.7.0, and it tried to load the FalconJX 0.7.0 from a URL containing a directory named rc1, which failed because it did not exist. - Josh On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:10 PM, wrote: > Author: ah

Re: FlexJS talk on Solutions.Hamburg

2016-09-08 Thread OK
Alex Harui wrote > It would be interesting to see if there are other conferences we should be > trying to go to. In germany there are e.g.: http://www.html5-days.de https://webinale.de/ http://webtechcon.com The webtechcon (parallel with the phpcon) is the biggest conference of these (+90 talks a

Re: svn commit: r1759747 - /flex/site/trunk/content/installer/sdk-installer-config-4.0.xml

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
There's a different problem that is currently messing up the installer. I'm trying to find a workaround, but I'm not sure the mirrors are propagating changes to files. -Alex On 9/8/16, 10:53 AM, "Josh Tynjala" wrote: >Hey Alex, > >Should you also remove the rc="rc1" here? I just tried using th

Re: svn commit: r1759747 - /flex/site/trunk/content/installer/sdk-installer-config-4.0.xml

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
Okay, thanks! - Josh On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > There's a different problem that is currently messing up the installer. > > I'm trying to find a workaround, but I'm not sure the mirrors are > propagating changes to files. > > -Alex > > On 9/8/16, 10:53 AM, "Josh Tynjal

AW: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
>From talking to former flex users today, I guess a migration strategy document >would probably be the most valuable document. Here companies can migrate their >old flex code to flexjs. Chris Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: "Diab

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
I’m working off the refactor-sprite branch which has all the latest changes from develop. (I merged it today.) When I compile against the Falcon 0.7.0 release, I get no errors. If I compile against the latest Falcon develop branch, I get this error. This is both using the same asjs code (latest

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
The latest Falcon is expecting to find a new interface in the JS dependencies and uses that to determine whether to output CSS information. In the bin/js-debug, is there an ICSSImpl.js file? -Alex On 9/8/16, 12:00 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >I’m working off the refactor-sprite branch which has all the

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
Yes. My original problem was with ICSSImpl, but I resolved that. My problem is no longer the CSS file (which I now have). It’s now that I cannot get the iContentView because SimpleCSSValuesImpl does not find it. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > The latest Falcon is expecting t

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
I hope to write a long blog post on my migration experiences when I have time. (But time has been very hard to come by…) On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Christofer Dutz wrote: > From talking to former flex users today, I guess a migration strategy > document would probably be the most valuable doc

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
Can the latest falcon compile and run DataBindingExample in the develop branch and/or the refactor-sprite branch or is DataBindingExample having the same problem? On 9/8/16, 12:13 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >Yes. > >My original problem was with ICSSImpl, but I resolved that. My problem is >no longer the

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
DataBindingExample works. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Can the latest falcon compile and run DataBindingExample in the develop > branch and/or the refactor-sprite branch or is DataBindingExample having > the same problem? > > On 9/8/16, 12:13 PM, "Harbs" wrote: > >> Yes. >

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
OK, then there is some issue I haven't seen before. What example is having this problem, and is it only the version in sprite-refactor? -Alex On 9/8/16, 12:32 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >DataBindingExample works. > >On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> Can the latest falcon compile and

Re: svn commit: r1759747 - /flex/site/trunk/content/installer/sdk-installer-config-4.0.xml

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
OK, I saw it install successfully for me. If you get a failure, wait a bit and try again. The mirrors are still propagating out the workaround. -Alex On 9/8/16, 10:59 AM, "Josh Tynjala" wrote: >Okay, thanks! > >- Josh > >On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> There's a diffe

Re: [FalconJX] issue with iContentView

2016-09-08 Thread Harbs
It’s in my app. I’ll see if I can distill the problem. On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, then there is some issue I haven't seen before. > > What example is having this problem, and is it only the version in > sprite-refactor? > > -Alex > > On 9/8/16, 12:32 PM, "Harbs" wr

Re: svn commit: r1759747 - /flex/site/trunk/content/installer/sdk-installer-config-4.0.xml

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
Installation works for me now! - Josh On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, I saw it install successfully for me. If you get a failure, wait a > bit and try again. The mirrors are still propagating out the workaround. > > -Alex > > On 9/8/16, 10:59 AM, "Josh Tynjala" wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache FlexJS 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
The file js/lib/google/closure-library/closure/goog/bootstrap/nodejs.js is missing from 0.7.0. This file is required to run debug builds produced by asnodec with Node.js. Release builds aren't broken, but this still isn't good. At some point, flex-asjs started using a subset of GCL, and this file

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache FlexJS 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
Just to be sure, I cleaned the third-party downloads in my local repository and ran ant all. The file ended up in the correct location, as it had when I originally tested my change. This seems to confirm that the 0.7.0 binary release was built using cached downloads, which were out of date. To avo

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Walker L. Dalton
Hi Alex, You mentioned that Falcon is already set-up to be a code completion engine for FlashBuilder. Ideally we would love to leverage it, using it for the Moonshine IDE. Do you have any information about how Falcon can be communicated with to extract that? Possibly an entry-point to the code-co

[FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
Alex this might be a question more for you, unless others are familiar with the topic. I am currently doing a bit more on reflection. Instead of outputting the fully resolved ancestral definition for each class, which would mean a lot of duplicated output across the inheritance chain, I assumed it

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
Never mind, I think I don't need to do this output. It looks like I can simply use constructor.superClass in js and go recursive. Please ignore. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Greg Dove wrote: > Alex this might be a question more for you, unless others are familiar > with the topic. > > I am

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache FlexJS 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 4:12 PM, "Josh Tynjala" wrote: >To avoid this issue in the future, whichever ant target is used to create >a >binary release should probably clean everything first. Another potential >issue is that someone might modify their downloaded files to test >something >locally and forget to

Re: FlexJS - roadmap to 1.0 release

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
There is a separate thread on this on the dev@flex.apache.org mailing list. Let's use that for this discussion. You may need to subscribe to the mailing list if you haven't already. Thanks, -Alex From: "Walker L. Dalton" mailto:wal...@prominic.net>> Date: Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:18 P

apacheflexbuild CI server

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, I changed the port on apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net from 8080 to the regular 80 to try to fix an issue. Thanks, -Alex

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
Actually I think the safest thing to do here would be to output the immediate base class, I *think* that should always work correctly. And that is all I need to follow the inheritance chain and collect the inherited members for the higher level TypeDefinition. Alex if you have a different view of h

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
"Alex if you have a different view of how this should work, please let me know." Sorry I have been to long in the compiler. I see what is needed in the framework code now. I will just use what is there. :) On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Greg Dove wrote: > Actually I think the safest thing

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache FlexJS 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Tynjala
I can probably do that tomorrow. Can you point me to instructions? I don't know where to upload the updated binaries or what the Apache process is to do the signing. Is there an easy way to generate an md5 for a file on Mac? - Josh On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 9/8/

Re: [DISCUSS] Discuss Release Apache FlexJS 0.7.0 RC1

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
You will need a PGP key, if you don't have one already: https://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing I would create an "out" folder in a flex-asjs working copy, and unzip the binary package in there, then add the missing file. Then I would run: ant binary-package-tgz binary-package-zip That should

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 5:39 PM, "Greg Dove" wrote: >"Alex if you have a different view of how this should work, please let me >know." > >Sorry I have been to long in the compiler. I see what is needed in the >framework code now. I will just use what is there. :) > Sounds good. There is trade-off between

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
I've just followed your lead here, you had done a lot of the initial work already, so I didn't have to figure out the 'how to do' part, just bits of the 'what to do'. So far I have added optional caching (TypeDefinition.useCache), but it is currently not on by default (I haven't actually gotten to

Re: Moonshine IDE code completion using Falcon engine

2016-09-08 Thread santanu4ver
Alex Harui wrote > Moonshine is an AIR app, correct? Porting Falcon's AST code to > ActionScript would be a serious project. I'm wondering if there is some > way to leverage Falcon, possibly as an ANE, or via some other > cross-process communication. Falcon is already set up to be a > code-compl

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 9:50 PM, "Greg Dove" wrote: >What is your preference for me getting this into the repo? If all current >(updated) tests pass and nothing else seems broken is it ok if I push to >develop for jx and asjs? Or do you prefer I go to branches on both until >it >can be checked by you or oth

Re: [FlexJS][Falcon-JX] Reflection related question

2016-09-08 Thread Greg Dove
Good to know. Pretty sure there is nothing outside of reflection here, so that sounds great.- thanks On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 9/8/16, 9:50 PM, "Greg Dove" wrote: > > >What is your preference for me getting this into the repo? If all current > >(updated) tests

[FlexJS] Starting with the Docs

2016-09-08 Thread OK
Hi, I notice everyone agrees that the docs are crucial, so why not just starting with it instead of wasting time with discussion? ;-) Some thoughts to the wiki: It is also not my favorite candidate for the docs cause it feels a bit old-fashioned and I'm always lost while searching for something. B

Re: Moonshine IDE code completion using Falcon engine

2016-09-08 Thread Vulcansoft
Hi Santanu4ver, you may not like this, but have you thought about using MS Visual Studio Code as the base IDE instead of writing another one yourself? Just stumbled upon this IDE today and it looks really good, it’s free, it's very fast, but only has basic ActionScript support (language modules c

Re: [FlexJS] Starting with the Docs

2016-09-08 Thread OK
>3) Are beads interchangeable through any strand? I thought I should share my thoughts on this: I wonder if we should separate strands and beads so that they exist side by side iside the docs or if we should nest beads under the related strand? If some beads would be interchangable and some not w

Re: Moonshine IDE code completion using Falcon engine

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 9:56 PM, "santanu4ver" wrote: >Hi Alex, > >I was looking into the Falcon description page here: >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Falcon+Overview which >confirms your opinion/suggestion on Falcon's code to use for >code-completion >to an IDE: > > >cwiki.apache.org wro

Re: [FlexJS] Starting with the Docs

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
On 9/8/16, 10:08 PM, "OK" wrote: >Hi, >I notice everyone agrees that the docs are crucial, so why not just >starting >with it instead of wasting time with discussion? ;-) > >Some thoughts to the wiki: >It is also not my favorite candidate for the docs cause it feels a bit >old-fashioned and I'm

Re: apacheflexbuild CI server

2016-09-08 Thread Alex Harui
I changed it back since it didn't help. On 9/8/16, 5:32 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >Hi, > >I changed the port on apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net from 8080 to the >regular 80 to try to fix an issue. > >Thanks, >-Alex >

Moonshine IDE for Flex, FlexJS, and ActionScript -- v1.2.0 released to the Apple App Store (free download)

2016-09-08 Thread Justin M. Hill
Dear Apache Flex / FlexJS community -- I am pleased to report we have finally reached a balance between Apple's security requirements for the App Store and the needs of the Moonshine IDE to install the necessary SDKs and command-line tools such as ANT for automated project builds. As of v1.2.0,