Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Shayak Sadhu
Hello Raphael, I am well accustomed to C,Java and Python programming. I have some experience in research works (plz check out my google scholar profile for more info). I am now learning big data analytics tools like Hadoop and Hive. I do have some hands-on hadoop. Regards, Shayak Sadhu On Tue, D

Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Shayak Ok, that's not my area. I think you can just go to the dev List of Hadoop and introduce your self. I'm sure they help you to get in. If not, come back here and ask again. Kind regards, Raphael Am 12/6/2016 um 9:20 AM schrieb Shayak Sadhu: Hello Raphael, I am well accustomed to C,

Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

2016-12-06 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 05.12.16 22:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > So ... stepping back a bit here. Are you saying that even attempting to > measure outcomes is harmful, because we might draw the wrong conclusions? > > This is a completely new notion to me. > > You say: > > "I am reluctant to simply collect some data becau

proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

2016-12-06 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Hi ComDev community, since I believe that measuring two data points only to measure the success of programs like GSoC in building communities is going to do more harm than good, I want to propose a post-mortem survey that hopefully captures a more complete picture. Here is my first proposal, let

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Rich Excellent post and I totally agree. Developing strategies and roadmaps isn't only for the ASF projects that produce a software product. Without a high level strategy or knowing (and communicating) exactly what we want to achieve we are just drifting and generally trying out new things

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Rich, On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > ...I think it's > fine for us, as a PMC in the most important open source organization on > the planet, to have a similar level of rigor... I'm +0 on better defining the goals of comdev - meaning I think it's a good idea but I don't ha

Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Ok, skip it then. However, I'm concerned that what we don't measure, we don't know how to improve. On Dec 6, 2016 3:36 AM, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote: > On 05.12.16 22:24, Rich Bowen wrote: > > So ... stepping back a bit here. Are you saying that even attempting to > > measure outcomes is harmful, bec

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On Dec 6, 2016 6:10 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: I hope we agree on that and I think we do, I'm just slightly worried that your initiative might be interpreted in the wrong way. - I am confident that my initiative will be interpreted the wrong way. Seems to be the way of things.

Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Given that what I proposed was step one and you want to jump straight to step 12, obviously I'm +1 on this. On Dec 6, 2016 3:59 AM, "Ulrich Stärk" wrote: > Hi ComDev community, > > since I believe that measuring two data points only to measure the success > of programs like GSoC in > building co

Re: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
Ted, this task is no longer active and needs to be closed. Perhaps you can find another task that looks interesting? On Dec 5, 2016 10:10 PM, "Liu Ted" wrote: I would like to help out with the task listed at https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?3c264f0f Ted Liu

Does GSoC help develop communities?

2016-12-06 Thread Jefferson Silva
Hi ComDev, I am a PhD student from the Univesity of São Paulo, Brazil. I've been studying the range of outcomes of programs such as GSoC. So far, we have created a model of what motivates students to enter GSoC, considering both students and mentors perception. Our next task involves investigati

Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

2016-12-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
Ulrich Stärk wrote on 12/6/16 3:59 AM: > Hi ComDev community, > > since I believe that measuring two data points only to measure the success of > programs like GSoC in > building communities is going to do more harm than good, I want to propose a > post-mortem survey that > hopefully captures a

Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On Dec 6, 2016 6:41 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: Given that what I proposed was step one and you want to jump straight to step 12, obviously I'm +1 on this. I'm told this comes across as a potshot at Uli. This is not my intent. This solution gives all I wanted and more. I approve of this solution

Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On the other hand, it is typically easier to find a smaller project to help out on. The appreciation is much higher and possibly you will more quickly gain influence in the project. Cheers Niclas On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Hi Shayak > > Ok, that's not my area. I th

Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Shayak Sadhu
Thank you, can you please suggest me some small project to which I can contribute. On 06-Dec-2016 9:02 PM, "Niclas Hedhman" wrote: > On the other hand, it is typically easier to find a smaller project to help > out on. The appreciation is much higher and possibly you will more quickly > gain inf

Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 12/06/2016 10:55 AM, Shayak Sadhu wrote: > Thank you, can you please suggest me some small project to which I can > contribute. If you look at http://projects.apache.org/ you can navigate the projects either by programming language - https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?language - or by

回复:Re: Help with task: Make our event calendar less US centric

2016-12-06 Thread Liu Ted
Oh, will do. Ted Liu 2016年12月6日星期二 时间:19:46,Rich Bowen 写道: Ted, this task is no longer active and needs to be closed. Perhaps you can find another task that looks interesting?  On Dec 5, 2016 10:10 PM, "Liu Ted" wrote: I would like to help out with the task listed at https://helpwanted

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Alex Harui
On 12/6/16, 3:36 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: >On Dec 6, 2016 6:10 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" >wrote: > >I hope we agree on that and I think we do, I'm just slightly worried >that your initiative might be interpreted in the wrong way. > >I am confident that my initiative will be interpreted the wrong

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Rich, > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> ...I think it's >> fine for us, as a PMC in the most important open source organization on >> the planet, to have a similar level of rigor... > > I'm +0 on better definin

Re: [QUESTION] Is Maven Central part of the ASF infrastructure?

2016-12-06 Thread Stephen Connolly
One of the reasons why we have maven point to repo.maven.apache.org is such that if "the worst" happened, and sonatype was no longer providing the service *and* there were delays transferring the maven.org domains then the Maven PMC would be able to re-point the domain under our control immediately

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 12/06/2016 07:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> Hi Rich, >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: >>> ...I think it's >>> fine for us, as a PMC in the most important open source organization on >>> the planet, to hav

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 12/06/2016 01:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > I'd like to strongly echo Bertrand here. To me, ComDev is first, and foremost > an ASF's braintrust if you will of things that have to do with > community development, > governance and all around non-coding. It is a place to come and ask > for adv

Re: Want to Contribute

2016-12-06 Thread Adina Crainiceanu
Hi Shayak, If you are interested in contributing to Apache Rya (incubating), let me know or send a message to d...@rya.incubator.apache.org. Rya is an RDF triple store build on top of Apache Accumulo (on top of Apache Hadoop). Programming language used is Java. You can find more info at http://rya

Re: [QUESTION] Is Maven Central part of the ASF infrastructure?

2016-12-06 Thread Christopher
I think my question was lost in the details. It makes sense that Maven defaults to using repo.maven.apache.org for the reasons stated. However, I was wondering why repo.maven.apache.org points to repo.apache.maven.org / 151.101.32.215 (currently non-canonical*) instead of repo.maven.apache

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 12/06/2016 01:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> I'd like to strongly echo Bertrand here. To me, ComDev is first, and foremost >> an ASF's braintrust if you will of things that have to do with >> community development, >> governance and al

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > I might ask; What else is the purpose of this PMC? Why have a PMC, if > the PMC is unwilling to do anything but their own individual interests > with seemingly little to no regard to whether it's within the mission > and reason behind ComDev.

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
Rich Bowen wrote on 12/5/16 12:54 PM: > As has been discussed elsewhere, we don't have a clear idea of what > we're here for. I believe we need to fix that. Meta-comments: - Specific proposals - especially things that can be written down as draft text on a webpage - always work better. Why not s

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

2016-12-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Rich Bowen wrote on 12/5/16 12:54 PM: >> As has been discussed elsewhere, we don't have a clear idea of what >> we're here for. I believe we need to fix that. > > Meta-comments: > > - Specific proposals - especially things that can be written

Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

2016-12-06 Thread Melissa Warnkin
Rich, I didn't take it as a potshot at all. I took it as how you meant itperhaps that's because I work with you closely and know your tone in emails. The rest can be chalked up to a language barrier/miscommunication. Trust me, folks, Rich had no ill intent with his email - just the opposite,