On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: > Rich Bowen wrote on 12/5/16 12:54 PM: >> As has been discussed elsewhere, we don't have a clear idea of what >> we're here for. I believe we need to fix that. > > Meta-comments: > > - Specific proposals - especially things that can be written down as > draft text on a webpage - always work better. Why not start a new draft > "ComDev Project Goals" page on the website, so it's simpler for people > to submit specific patches. > > - In a non-code project, one of the hardest issues to deal with (at > least for me) is working through negative or non-supportive feedback. > Earlier, it felt like some people had new good ideas about docs, but > were also saying that other people should stop what they're doing, and > work on the docs first. That feels like "getting in the way", although > I realize now that it was just how I interpreted the tone, and not the > real message. > > I guess this is just a call for all of us to not get in other energetic > volunteer's ways. We all have great ideas, now the trick is to help or > at least allow some of us to actually implement those ideas - perhaps as > draft goals to start with, but to let Rich make progress here (and Uli > to make progress on the GSoC agreement and survey). > > Just because someone else has a different idea doesn't mean that Rich > shouldn't also go forward with his idea, for example, and vice-versa. > This is not a zero-sum game, and unless someone's idea is actively > hurting the project's efforts, let's try to say "Yes, but..." instead of > "No, not like that..." more. 8-) > > Rich, I'm definitely +1 for you to organize this and put it on the > website for the PMC to - over some time - tweak and better publicize.
Huge +1 to the above. And just be clear -- my personal intent was to simply indicate some of the boundaries that need to be crossed with great, great caution. Everything else I'm hugely supportive of, but more from the 'cheering from the sidelines' kind of a way. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org