> Now, this is what I know as "equality in opportunity" and is why I am
somewhat skeptical to efforts focused on increasing so called diversity for
the sake of diversity, also known as "equality in outcome".
The implication of this line of thought is that, for example, women have
the opportunity t
ng on it.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2016-11-23 15:52 (+0100), Noah Slater wrote:
> > Awesome work! Thanks Sharan!
> >
> > When will this go out?
> >
> > Do you mind me tweeting about being excited about the survey before the
> > blog post goes out? (
Awesome work! Thanks Sharan!
When will this go out?
Do you mind me tweeting about being excited about the survey before the
blog post goes out? (i.e. right now)
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 at 11:35 Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've updated the proposed blog post to make this a ComDev initiative and
2016 at 03:43 William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> I think you misinterpreted a couple things...
>
> On Nov 17, 2016 02:18, "Noah Slater" wrote:.
> >
> > I quoted a chunk of an email that was sent to me privately because the
> > person who sent it had already offered to co
Agreed with Sam.
Saying "ignore it" ensures our communities will only be made up of people
who are hardy enough or privileged enough to be able to ignore such things.
We're not enforcing people's feelings of safety. Nor are we enforcing
people's happiness. Of course, we could never do that. They
The thread you're referencing contains a number of actionable, productive
suggestions. Indeed, mine and other's participation on that thread was an
attempt to counteract derailment.
I quoted a chunk of an email that was sent to me privately because the
person who sent it had already offered to cop
eople
behind the code of conduct. Though having worked with Joan now for many
years on CouchDB, I would be surprised if she didn't at least thin
something approximately similar.
On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 at 23:53 Noah Slater wrote:
> This is the last email I am going to send on the specifi
list about having a
bad time and challenging them to justify themselves to you is not okay
behaviour. But I am going to stop talking about this now. I don't think I
can explain it any better than this. Perhaps someone else can chime in if
they think they can help.
On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 at 03:17
rrisome, especially with an "enforcement", rather than
> "education", "promotion" and "leading by example" language in Sharan's
> proposal.
>
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
> [1] A really terrible argument, since you (Shane) would not have tha
Not sure how we got here. I wasn't suggesting we update our code of conduct.
Niclas was attacking the concept of "safety", so I was providing a concrete
example of someone (me) who does not feel safe.
Niclas’s response is an example of the sort of thing that has contributed
to me not feeling safe
elcoming-ness" we aim for?
As it happens, I wasn't bringing up my bad experiences to make any concrete
point about what we should or should not do re policy, only to refute
Niclas's nonsense idea that "safety" is not a word we should be using.
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 16:58 Patrici
h it when
there are actual usecases.
I am asking for examples, some type of record to consume to form myself an
opinion of whether anything new is needed. If such pragmatism hurts your
feelings, well... I might pity you for being too sensitive, but it is not
an argument and you are not convincing me
I took a leave of absence from the ASF for over a year (my previous email
on this thread was one of my first since returning) precisely because the
treatment I got on these mailing lists was so deleterious for my mental
health that I had to take a break, for my safety.
Positioning *war* as the can
Some things we did on CouchDB that I think could work for other projects:
- Started a lot of discussions (some private, some public) regarding
people's conduct on IRC, bug trackers, mailing lists etc (moving people to
a more "yes, and" culture, encouraging friendly and open communication,
particu
ly I find the LF vesion quite ok, please remember this is not a
> matter of wording, but about people
> taking action when it happens.
>
> I think this thread and others have made us all aware of the common
> responsibility we share, and awareness
> is to me the most important part.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
>> - Shane
>>
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*or where ever
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 at 18:46 Noah Slater wrote:
> Oh, thanks for the input Shane!
>
> I don't want to make the punitive measures stuff too complex. It should be
> simple and easy to understand for both those who want protection from
> harassment and so on, a
e the ones enforcing the CoC. If not that, a
recommendation from the Community PMC to the board to take the appropriate
action. And failing that, for the Board itself to step in and take such
action.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 at 18:20 Shane Curcuru wrote:
> On 3/25/15 12:00 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
&g
Yep, thanks for the reply. I'm not sure how to handle the governance side
of this. But I'm sure we can come to an agreement on this list soon.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 at 15:13 jan i wrote:
> On 25 March 2015 at 13:08, Noah Slater wrote:
>
> > Jan,
> >
> > Late to
Jan,
Late to the party here, sorry. But I wanna reply to your point that the CoC
is not meant to be enforceable.
That is not the case, as I understand it. Indeed, an unenforceable or
not-regularly-enforced CoC is not worthless, it's actually *harmful* and
dangerous for marginalised people in our
it extensively. So this isn't original
> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.
>
> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other than
> expecting that someone else would.
>
> So, without further ado:
> http://www.apache.
t a lot of
> skills and expertise is involved.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 P
monitoring project health
> and investigate where projects can improve regarding community building.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
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Thanks Rich. I'll add it on to my ever expanding todo list. :)
On 9 June 2014 14:56, Rich Bowen wrote:
> I think the silence should be interpreted as "if you think it's important,
> make it happen."
>
> --
> Rich Bowen, mobile edition
> rbo...@rcbowen.com
&g
he-role-hat
>
> -- Lefty
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I notice that "hat" is missing from the glossary. I can't find any
>> other definitive definition of it on our website. I want to use it in
>
Hello,
I notice that "hat" is missing from the glossary. I can't find any
other definitive definition of it on our website. I want to use it in
some bylaws I'm drafting but was hoping to link through to something
foundation-level to back up the section.
Any clues?
Thanks,
-
rove you to work on such projects.
>
> Please drop me an email at rkani...@gmail.com to participate in the
> interview. I assure you that the information will be used for academic
> purposes only.
>
> I am looking forward to hearing from you !
>
> Cheers,
> Anil
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Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
t, in general, what Ross
> said. :)
>
> Speaking of which, FOSDEM, Jan 30-Feb 4. Come have a beer with me. :)
>
>
> --Rich
>
>
> On 01/15/2014 03:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> party@?
>>
>> On 13 January 2014 20:40, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>&g
Humbedooh just clarified that it is a non-archived list, which is why
I couldn't find it on mail-archives.
Thanks!
On 17 January 2014 14:12, Noah Slater wrote:
> How might I sign up for receiving such mails?
>
> On 17 January 2014 07:34, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> party@ is
ill often find people to entertain you in a strange town
>
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Senior Technology Evangelist
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 January 2014 12:03, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> party@?
&g
n on
> the job if people don't know about the party@ list!
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@redhat.com
> OpenStack Community Liaison
> http://openstack.redhat.com/
>
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I think you sent this to the wrong list. Perhaps send it to the Climate
list.
On 9 June 2013 13:50, Suresh Marru wrote:
> Climate JIRA admins,
>
> Can you please add me to JIRA developers, I am unable to assign tickets to
> myself and close them.
>
> My JIRA user name is smarru.
>
> Thanks,
> S
Hey folks,
I've been talking a lot about what "committer" means recently. As a person
with a vote on the project, do we award this position to people who
contribute code, or people who we trust? And are there instances where we
trust someone with a vote (i.e. they've shown merit, sustained
contrib
or me.
On 7 May 2013 19:03, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> We already have a listing at [1]. It's hidden behind 2 clicks from the
> main site. We could use that
> as a starting point.
>
> Uli
>
> [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
>
> On 07.05.2013 18:22, Noah S
It would be a shame to scrap the idea because we are presuming the worst in
everyone. That seems very anti-ASF to me. A better approach might be to
appoint "social" moderators (i.e. gate keepers of the civility) that reign
the conversation back in if and when things go off-track.
Also, we do have
A note to committers@ might be a good first start. But, in general, I
really think we need to do a better job of communicating the existing
mailing lists we have. Perhaps a page on the main site, or on the community
site, would be a good start.
On 7 May 2013 16:58, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
Well, release-discuss[1] was one place suggested for things like "how do we
version releases?" (The only correct answer being semver! *wink*) But
unfortunately, discussion sort of dried up there.
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-release-discuss/
[2] http://semver.org/
On 7 May 20
I get the impression that they're both generated from the same source. i.e.
They will always have 100% parity. Any missing projects, like CouchDB are
going to be missing from both files.
On 4 May 2013 22:35, Davide Galletti wrote:
> On 04/05/2013 14:39, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>
On 23 April 2013 10:56, Davide Galletti wrote:
> It turned out that no projects are missing a DOAP file;
How did you ascertain this?
I don't think CouchDB has a DOAP file, as we're not listed on
http://projects.apache.org/indexes/quick.html for instance.
--
NS
Ross, agreed. A list of potential "gotchas" would be sensible!
On 27 April 2013 17:26, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Let me repeat again that the value I see in the Flex report is that it
> identifies some issues that projects moving to git should consider and plan
> for. This will make other projects
I interpreted Luciano's -1 as a general "I am not in favour of this
proposal", which seems like a perfectly valid use. Even if it were being
cast _as_ a veto on some code change or other, I still think it would be
valid, as it comes with justification. (That other people might disagree
with that ju
Me too.
On 17 April 2013 00:09, Ross Gardler wrote:
> It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any
> volunteers?
>
> Ross
>
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
--
NS
Also, multiple ways to request access.
See the header at the top of every page on http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/
On 17 April 2013 10:48, Nick Burch wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>> Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?
>>
>
> I'd suggest we
Yeah, I think so. Sounds like quite a promising idea.
On 1 April 2013 22:20, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
>
> On 4/1/2013 2:19 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ross Gardler > >**wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2013 18:28, "Luciano Resende" wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 a
ComDev could work to attract volunteers. I am sure there are more than a
few people on the Incubator dev@ list at the moment who might consider
moving over here to work on process and policy documentation...
On 1 April 2013 19:19, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ross G
Hey,
Thanks for the responses.
Sorry, yes, I think I messed that up, I mean:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-community/
I was wondering if the two mailing lists are related. Interested in lurking
on this list, and wondered whether I should lurk on the other one too. And
also wonder
Hey,
What's the difference between this mailing list and community-discuss@a.o?
Is that mailing list a part of this project?
Thanks!
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NS
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