I took a leave of absence from the ASF for over a year (my previous email on this thread was one of my first since returning) precisely because the treatment I got on these mailing lists was so deleterious for my mental health that I had to take a break, for my safety.
Positioning *war* as the canonical example of un-safety is a poor one. There are many forms of safety. Feeling like a community is a good place for you to inhabit, feeling like it wont harm you (emotionally, mentally, or otherwise) is well within the remit of safety that we, as a community-focused org, should be concerned about. On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 at 10:32 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: > On 14/11/2016 00:52, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> *General Diversity Approach and Strategy* > >> I haven't had much time to update this on the wiki but once the > committer > >> survey is complete I will be able to perhaps tailor it based on the > results. > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ > >> Diversity+Strategy+Ideas > >> > >> I'm still interested in getting feedback and ideas from anyone about > ways > >> to develop the strategy and actions we can take to help encourage > diversity. > > <snip/> > > > So; What does "feel safe" mean? > > In this context, it must be a first world non-problem. Because I doubt > that > > you think ASF committers will be hit by drone strikes if their location > is > > known, that an unfortunate email will cause terrorist attacks or > indirectly > > causing thermo-nuclear war. "Safe" means that there is no imminent danger > > to our lives and physical health. Maslow's somewhat revised hierarchy > also > > includes "financial security" as it quite directly affects our survival. > > "Safe" doesn't encompass "not feeling happy", "I was offended" and other > > non-sense. > > If you against all odds are talking about real safety; I can't imagine > that > > anyone became more unsafe after joining ASF communities. Right? > > Wrong. There are examples of people being threatened and/or assaulted > directly as a result of their participation in an ASF community. I'm one > of them. > > I whole-heartedly support the work that Sharan is doing this area. I am > of the view that the phrase "feel safe" is an critical element of the > desired outcomes and should remain. > > Mark > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
