Please, no. Emoji are a giant embarrassment to the UTC. Does the ASF
really want to lump itself in with the people demanding characters for
'poop'?
But if you insist, I can send you the process.
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Christopher wrote:
> This is a somewhat serious question (but only
Greg, the proposal is for the _Default ASF POM_ to be set up so that
_all_ projects would use SHA-512. This is not a question for the Maven
PMC.
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Greg Trasuk wrote:
>
> Hi Christopher:
>
> Thanks for your involvement. Apache Maven is one of many projects at the
>
It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
community decision making.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2
The legal status of a work is not determined by the markings on it. If
someone granted a license to the ASF, they granted a license. If a
third party jumps the gun and grabs a copy, and complies with the
situation, they're fine, including ripping out the obsolete markings
for themselves.
On Tue, A
This thread started as a discussion of Linux distros and trademarks.
Perhaps I could try to return it there?
If a distro takes a release of Apache X, compiles it with minimal changes
that adapt it to the environment, and distributes it, I believe that it's a
fine thing for them to call it simple A
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Marvin Humphrey
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> Coming in late.
>>>
>>> A snapshot is not a release. Licenses "kick in&
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Coming in late.
>
> A snapshot is not a release. Licenses "kick in" at distribution/
> release.
Are you sure? When you have a public source control repo, with a
LICENSE file at the top, I would think that this counts as a legal
'publication'
Is everyone else seeing endless copies reflected from line0928769...@gmail.com?
I think it's important to recognize how the board and the foundation
have handled this issue over time.
The absolute requirement is open decision-making. Avoiding real-time
communications avoids many possible failures of open decision-making.
(Not, of course, all.) After all, the simplest primrose
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> (top post)
>
> So, I pinged the nice folks at Slack (and they really are nice!, or at least
> the guy I communicated with), and asked them about:
>
> * open source: No.
> * the issue of uncaptured conversations, as Ted D. mentioned ("the
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Gregory Chase wrote:
> Does "...based on Apache Hadoop" require a clear dependency notation as to
> which versions of Apache component releases are part of the commercial
> distribution?
No, it cannot. Trademark law is not a matter of such distinctions, and
our ve
It's all trademark. They can release whatever they want so long as
they clearly document that it does not come from us. We ask them to
achieve this clarity via certain trademark guidelines, but the
principle behind the thing is that they can't mislead the public into
thinking it comes from us.
On
This thread started with a discussion of the CoC. The premise of the
thread was this: that counter-CoC behavior might emerge on a project,
and that the project might tolerate, or even celebrate, that behavior,
for lack of an explicit bylaw explicitly adopting the CoC.
This premise is wrong. The Co
Writing as someone who has mentored a squad of podlings, I do not
believe that there is any requirement for any project to ever adopt
any bylaws at all. I was never involved where the board ask for
bylaws, and I'm faintly curious as to how that ever came to pass. The
normal process is for podlings
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 03/24/2015 06:43 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't the sentence 'Any veto must be accompanied by reasoning and be
>> prepared to defend it. Other members can attempt to encourage them to
>> change.' then be removed
>> fromhttp://co
Perhaps this discussion stems from questions about how Apache uses the
term 'consensus'.
In the rest of the world, there is a formally defined 'consensus
decision process'. The goal of this process is to make decisions when
possible, and leave the status quo otherwise. Very roughly, discussion
tak
In a healthy community, in my experience:
1: someone starts a DISCUSS thread to propose adding a person.
2: if someone else had serious reservations, they state those reservations
3a: remarks from others cause the person with the reservations to
withdraw them, and the group proceeds to a VOTE.
3
I'd like to suggest backing up from the point where Alex was commenting.
It is an Apache goal to build broad communities, not to build
homogeneous groups. That includes PMC as well as committers. To me,
this suggests that the community-building starts when the person shows
up.
Hypothetical: a new
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:38 PM, jan i wrote:
> On 14 February 2015 at 20:03, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Louis, for independent data see
>> http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x
>>
>> This isn't abo
With respect to search:
There's an ASF project, some of you might have heard of it, and, rumor
has it, they build a pretty good full-text search engine. So, instead
of complaining about the quality of MarkMail, perhaps we could address
this end of things by looking into more sophisticated use of,
The Apache Software Foundation has a requirement of open, public,
decision-making. The short-hand implication of those requirements is that
'discussions that lead to decisions are made on mailing lists.' Closely
related is the requirement that important functions take place on ASF
infrastructure.
privately archived. The outcomes of such consensus should where possible
> be discussed in public as soon as it is appropriate to do so.
>
> That isn't great wording but hopefully you get what I am trying to convey
> - projects should rarely discuss in private and any discussions
CD40: perhaps change 'previous version' to 'released version'
CD50: the committer is not necessarily the author; someone might read
this and not understand what it implies for committers committing
contributions via all of the channels allowed for by the AL. One patch
would be 'immediate provenanc
In my opinion, Google is making an incoherent request. What does it
mean for one organization to vouch for another? What, specifically,
does Google think that the ASF could, as a Foundation, know about
Terasology? If Google were to publish something very specific and
concrete about this, perhaps it
It might be more interesting to skip Cordova altogether. The industry
is full of ferment about CD. If everyone checks their rhetoric at the
door, there could be an interesting conversation about how to mesh the
ideas of CD and the ideals of the ASF.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Jim Jagielski
I don't see how you can anticipate anything productive, given the
number of board members who think that the concept is evil, or, at
least, counter to their vision of the Apache Way.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> On 03/10/2014 02:36 PM, Nick Burch wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 10
ablish and maintain a cadence _within the rules as we
know them today_, and stay healthy. Stephen has proposed that
experiment to the Maven PMC of which he is the chair, and if it goes
well, we'll make a proposal to take further steps.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 13, 2014
This conversation goes in a circle. I see two positions:
1: Cadence releases are inevitably incompatible with Apache community values.
2: Cadence releases are not inevitably incompatible with Apache
community values.
People who take the first position see this desire to use cadence as
weakening o
Could I suggest a focus on making the release process easier? That
will benefit everybody, and serve as a platform for ongoing discussion
about releases and cadences.
It seems to me that we could make voters' jobs easier. This would help
get releases approved _in 72 hours_, to start with.
We ask
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014, at 01:48 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> >
>> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:
>> >> With a large
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> In other words, an automated process can still allow for completely
>> inclusive participation.
>>
>
> I never said that it couldn't
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:
>> With a large enough PMC likely there will be enough active people to
>> obtain the necessary +1's in the 12hr window regardless of a few people
>> being unavailable
>
> A concern is that if
What I see here is a disagreement about the meaning of the Apache
brand. Some people feel that the Apache brand should always imply a
particular style of project. Other people in the past have written at
length that the ASF should be a big tent that accommodates many styles
of project. There are al
Lewis, did you or anyone else feel that you were pushed to git?
While your story has a bit of @infra-specific business to it, the majority
of it and flex's seem to be composed of 'we heard that git was cool, so we
moved to it, and we stepped on a rake.'
Personally, I wouldn't recommend that any c
As I see it, the primary attraction here is that we could end up with
*one* coherent body of documentation on policies and procedures,
available to project new and old.
Sigh. No bad joke goes unpunished. That's an intentional mistake, to
play off of the word 'capricious'.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, wrote:
> Benson Margulies wrote on 02/16/2013 01:54:52 PM:
>
>> From: Benson Margulies
>> To: "dev@community.apache.o
the wrong accent is definitely a typo. thanks.
On Feb 17, 2013, at 7:47 AM, "Hervé BOUTEMY" wrote:
> Le dimanche 17 février 2013 06:55:21 Benson Margulies a écrit :
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY
> wrote:
>>> slide 5: french typo
>
fL, PMC, IPMC, PPMC, CCLA,
> SGA, CTR, RTC, TLP, AL): should add plain-text explanations first time each
> one
> is used, at least in comments
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le samedi 16 février 2013 13:54:52 Benson Margulies a écrit :
>> https://docs.google.com/pr
ease excuse mistakes and brevity
> On 16 Feb 2013 18:00, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
>> Are there some, well, slides?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea
>> wrote:
>> > @All, thanks for the pointers.
>> > @Benson, will
Ah, big fun. Preparation definitely a Job for Beer!
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
wrote:
> Hi
>
>In my case it was an interactive one and didn't use any slides
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3
> Apologies for any typos
> On Feb 16, 2013
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1XSqXy9rz-RDcE-P2cK7dEmyjGGHvK8--mR4k_E-qAL4/edit?usp=sharing
I've made my first pass at the slides for the talk I'm giving on the
incubator in Portland.
If anyone is really allergic to Google Docs, I can export it and put
it somewhere otherwise accessible.
Are there some, well, slides?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> @All, thanks for the pointers.
> @Benson, will do, enjoy vacation.
> Hadrian
>
>
> On 02/13/2013 07:29 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> Hadrian,
>>
>> I'm going
Hadrian,
I'm going to be on vacation next week. On the other hand, the time
slot is on Thursday AM. So I'd propose tuning this up over beer on
site.
--benson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>
>> I g
I'd be happy to turn it into a Punch & Judy show with Hadrian.
On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Nick Burch wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> I can take it if nobody else wants it.
>
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> I could
>
>
I could
On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:04 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Sadly, it looks like Mohammad Nour won't be able to join us in Portland after
> all :( He was down to speak in the community track, giving an updated version
> of a popular talk - Can I depend on Software built By Volunteers? [
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Benson Margulies:
>> Anyone can read http://www.apache.org/dev/open-access-svn.html to see a
>> summary of the central idea that started this discussion: that the default
>> authorization scheme for Subversion at Apac
ICLAs are still an absolute requirement. So, imagine an Apache project with
a policy like:
Commit rights are granted on request to people with an Apache ICLA on
file ...
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Benson Margulies
>
Over the last several weeks, there has been a length discussion amongst
Apache Foundation members about how the Foundation manages access to source
control, with a focus on Subversion.
Anyone can read http://www.apache.org/dev/open-access-svn.html to see a
summary of the central idea that started
Perhaps I can help here.
The root of all this, as I understand it, is an optional dependency.
There is, of course, code that depends on the optional dependency.
However, no one has mentioned any *source* code that is under an
incompatible license, such as modified sources of an LGPL component.
Th
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 21 August 2012 17:23, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>> On 21 August 2012 17:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 a
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 21 August 2012 17:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>> Further to Bertrand comment it's not the PMC that is important but the
>>> people doin
uestion; I could
see arguments either way.
>
> From a mobile device - forgive errors and terseness
> On Aug 21, 2012 2:47 PM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>> > Any particular reason why t
Any particular reason why the comdev web page doesn't include a list
of the comdev PMC members, as any other PMC's page would?
A recent thread on legal-discuss drifted off into a discussion of a
project pathology that some thought was part of the historical record
of the Maven project.
As a fairly recent addition to the Maven PMC, I've been trying to get
some historical sense of the project so as to better understand the
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Nick Burch wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> Second, I wonder about the proposed governance and logic of this whole
>> 'java package id rules' business. Here's a scenario: someone from
>> ou
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
wrote:
> Benson,
>
> You honed in on PRECISELY the 2 points I was trying to make.
> Thanks for making them so succinctly. One thing I will comment
> on explicitly (read below):
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:52 AM, B
There are two aspects of this situation that I want to highlight:
First, there's a policy tension at the heart of the whole Apache
Extras concept that has me puzzled.
I could point to a raft of messages from board members expressing
extremely vehement views in opposition to 'circumventing license
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52235
Has anyone a clue as to how to attack the above?
Weir wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>> On 13 November 2011 11:22, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>> Could the comdev PMC provide some assistance with basic SEO for
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 13 November 2011 11:22, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> Could the comdev PMC provide some assistance with basic SEO for Apache
>> projects?
>
> If you are willing to do this, then yes ;-)
Unfortunately, I don't
Could the comdev PMC provide some assistance with basic SEO for Apache
projects? Every so often, I type in a google query, and am stunned at
the extent to which the Official Apache Web Site for an Apache project
fails to show up anywhere on the first page.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 21 July 2011 21:55, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just
>>> like anyone else.
>>
>> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg'
>
> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just
> like anyone else.
I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as
a single monolithic category drives people away.
A typical problem case is someone who sets out to undertake a big,
complex, contributi
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> There are some minor English language issues, like agreement in
>> number. Sean, do you want edits?
or, dear, s/sean/shane/. Naughty Iphone!
>
> I'm not sure if Sean wants edit
There are some minor English language issues, like agreement in
number. Sean, do you want edits?
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> +! reads well and clarifies some useful points we often take for
> granted.
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 12:58 -0400, "Michael McCandless"
h, the question is
probably lost for good.
Some very lightweight system for allowing users to open 'tickets'
asking for some sort of specific assistance might help here. Or it,
too, might wash away in the tide.
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:47 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> On M
In my opinion, it's completely wrong-headed to imagine that there's
any barrier to any PMC choosing to open a simple beachhead on SO and
posting a link like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/caliper
on their web presence.
The arguments here are reasons why a PMC might choose to put more or
I think that the problem of 'committer shows up as 'rep=1' is not a big problem.
The existing moderation circus on SO seems to work reasonably well,
and it isn't tag-specific. If committers show up and answer questions,
they'll get upvotes, and eventually acquire privileges.
I can't predict how A
No discussion at the ASF is complete until we have had it twice.
A month or so ago, there was a lengthy thread about stackoverflow.com
on members@. It rather dribbled out.
Recently, someone re-stirred that pot, and Nick Burch recommended
taking it over here rather than fill all the members@ mailb
I have interest, but I have a very, very, strong priority toward
family on free time, and it's not so easy to transport the skating
competitions, piano lessons, and other family weekend activities to
Ireland. Aide from the fact that, as part of that priority, I tend to
want to spend the time with t
Well, thing #1, I missed the weekend aspect. So I'm effectively 50% nuts.
I mean 'selection' in the 'self-selection' sense of the term.
I confess that I don't have a suggestion. I wish I'd started by asking
about who turns up. A few days ago, we had a load of anti-corporate
messages on the incuba
I'm a little puzzled by the retreats. On the one hand, the members and
incubator lists have a constant stream of commentary of one snarkiness
or another about our focus on individuals, rather than corporations.
Then we have the retreats, which to me seem to select people with very
strong corporate
I may be speaking out of turn, but why not elect them directly to the
PMC? If they make a giant non-coding contribution, they belong on the
committee even if they aren't committers.
Of course, you could avoid any unhappy reactions to this by electing
them as committers (a la ted) first and then as
As projects mature and grow, the quality of the documentation becomes
an ever-more-important aspect. Tech writing is, however, a different
beast from development. Some projects have been blessed with
significant volunteer effort, and others with not-so-volunteer effort
as always. Has Comdev ever co
I posted it. I note that nothing seems to display the separate
'summary' I typed in.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Excellent, thank you.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On 20 Sep 2010, at 23:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> https:
I've asked for a login on the blog site.
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Excellent, thank you.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On 20 Sep 2010, at 23:02, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QA
https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en
Lazy consensus lazily added.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Ross,
>
> I completely spaced that out. I'm quite familiar with it. I'll add it.
> This
d this detail, I'll follow up with a
> post along the above lines.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On 20 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> I think I posted the link to a folder instead of a link to the doc.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/docu
fore I put it on the blog?
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> On 16/08/2010 23:03, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a goofy blog at blogger. Is there some mechanism for having an ASF
>>> blog?
>>
>> http://blogs.apach
I wrote a draft:
https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en
Care to read before I put it on the blog?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 16/08/2010 23:03, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>> I have a goofy
y apply to us: we deal with adults.
>
No argument with that. Though there are some days on members@ where I feel
like someone needs to hand out juice and cookies.
>
>
> - Original Message
> > From: Benson Margulies
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Sent:
Feh. Another screed about raising children from someone who has, apparently,
never met one.
Every parent I know has had the same experience: hand some infant female a
truck, and she rejects it. I'm carefully choosing my words to avoid claiming
that this is universal, as opposed to extremely common
The women who are actively involved in the ASF led the process of creating,
evaluating, and destroying the mailing list that started this whole
discussion. They are more than capable and willing to speak/type up about
any problems they see.
Which Apache communities are you an active member of, and
I have a goofy blog at blogger. Is there some mechanism for having an ASF
blog?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 16/08/2010 22:37, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> Recent discussions on various lists have led me to think about 'Consensus
>> Process&
Recent discussions on various lists have led me to think about 'Consensus
Process' as an area of possible effort for comdev. People are not born
knowing how to operate a consensus process, and some discussions suggest to
me that the communities might benefit from something written down as a aid
mem
There's a small potential that someone could misunderstand one thing
in Jean's message, so I want to make what I see as a clearer statement
of one point.
Mailing lists of the form priv...@somepmc.apache.org \are/ archived.
Those archives are \not/ available to the general public, but they are
full
You might also cast a gander at the patch I added to INFRA-2715.
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Thanks very much for all your comments and additions - here's my final
> draft for review.
> I plan to post it on Thursday as I'm offline tomorrow and W
I've been holding off on wading into this, but I think that some sort of an
idea has jelled.
I wonder about Google's statement of the mission. If Google's statement of
the mission is: "Get smart students involved in open source," then we have
one situation. If, on the other hand, it is more like "
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
> Please don't top-post.
Did I top-post? I meant to empty my buffer and type in a new message.
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> I suggest one jira project called MENTOR, and another ca
I suggest one jira project called MENTOR, and another called COMDEV. I
think we should present brand new mentees with as little jargon as
possible.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kathey Marsden
wrote:
> Tim Williams wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Kathey Marsden
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
Ross,
I did another big round of edits based on your responses to my questions.
--benson
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> 2009/12/8 Benson Margulies :
>> I just submitted my first set of edits here. I adopted a fairly
>> high-handed attitude of rewri
I just submitted my first set of edits here. I adopted a fairly
high-handed attitude of rewriting to improve clarity -- according to
my ideas of clarity. If you all find it to be a train wreck just roll
it back and tell me what you don't like, and I'll try again.
I did have some questions that cam
I have a login.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEVxSITE/Index
>
> 2009/12/4 Benson Margulies :
>> Well, when I go to cwiki.apache.org, I get a directory listing, so I
>> can't tell. Something is amiss.
I don't think so, and as per other message I seem terminally befuddled
about interacting with cwiki.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> 2009/12/4 Benson Margulies :
>> The mentor page needs some editing, where's the source?
>
> It's in cwiki, tha
Well, when I go to cwiki.apache.org, I get a directory listing, so I
can't tell. Something is amiss.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> 2009/12/4 Benson Margulies :
>> The mentor page needs some editing, where's the source?
>
> It's in cwiki, tha
The mentor page needs some editing, where's the source?
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> 2009/12/4 Benson Margulies :
>> As per some conversations on members@, here I am looking for something
>> useful to do :-)
>
> Great to see you. We're just
I like this. It's a way to suck in people with useful information to
contribute. Later, as you say, some trimming will reduce the number of
wandering fragmentary contributions.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> We've not really discussed who should have access to the comdev
>
OK, I get it. Maybe the mentor taxonomy is more important, then. Looks
like the goal here is, across lots of projects, to tag off some JIRAs
that these people could tackle.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> 2009/12/4 Benson Margulies :
>> Very few new people ever h
CXF has a difficulty field like this. It's called Estimated Complexity
and is a dropdown containing:
Unknown, Novice, Moderate, Advanced, Guru, Needs James Gosling.
The mentor question is not included, since the presumption at CXF is
that there's always a mentor available, and the only issue is t
As per some conversations on members@, here I am looking for something
useful to do :-)
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