Ross,

I completely spaced that out. I'm quite familiar with it. I'll add it.
This is exactly why I wanted to get a review.

--benson


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a fine post and I have no objections to it being published as is. 
> However, in the projects I work on the concept of Lazy Consensus is critical. 
> That is, for the majority of actions permission need not be sought since most 
> actions can be reversed. Thus non objection means consensus.
>
> This is particularly powerful since it requires people to be active if they 
> want to have a say in the project. That is, people can't just turn up at 
> discussion phase and throw a spanner in the works (as happens in so many 
> committee run endeavours).
>
> Of course this relies on people knowing when they should ask for input on 
> proposed changes. For me this is why merit is critical. For me merit 
> indicates someone has learned when to ask permission as opposed to when to 
> ask for forgiveness.
>
> If your experience in projects is different from mine with respect to lazy 
> consensus, or if you prefer not to add this detail, I'll follow up with a 
> post along the above lines.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On 20 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I posted the link to a folder instead of a link to the doc.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en
>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en
>>>
>>> Care to read before I put it on the blog?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2010 23:03, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a goofy blog at blogger. Is there some mechanism for having an ASF
>>>>> blog?
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.apache.org/comdev/
>>>>
>>>> If you post your content here we'll get it up there for you (we've not
>>>> really worked out access rights to the blog yet so I'll not assume my own
>>>> preference is universal at this point).
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ross Gardler<rgard...@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/08/2010 22:37, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recent discussions on various lists have led me to think about
>>>>>>> 'Consensus
>>>>>>> Process' as an area of possible effort for comdev. People are not born
>>>>>>> knowing how to operate a consensus process, and some discussions suggest
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> me that the communities might benefit from something written down as a
>>>>>>> aid
>>>>>>> memoire or training device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'm sure that I could find some references on this subject, but I'm more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inclined to type up a somewhat personal introduction to consensus
>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>> and see if anyone thinks that it's worth further work and eventual
>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting with a personal blog post on the topic would be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may want to look at the content at
>>>>>> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/meritocraticGovernanceModel.xml - in
>>>>>> particular section 2.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This document discusses the mechanics of consensus and decision making in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> meritocratic project. However, it does not discuss the social aspects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's always been my intention to bring that content here, but I've not
>>>>>> found the time yet. It's currently CC-BY-SA, but I'm happy to make it
>>>>>> available under an Apache Licence if it would compliment your work in any
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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