https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en
Lazy consensus lazily added. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ross, > > I completely spaced that out. I'm quite familiar with it. I'll add it. > This is exactly why I wanted to get a review. > > --benson > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: >> This is a fine post and I have no objections to it being published as is. >> However, in the projects I work on the concept of Lazy Consensus is >> critical. That is, for the majority of actions permission need not be sought >> since most actions can be reversed. Thus non objection means consensus. >> >> This is particularly powerful since it requires people to be active if they >> want to have a say in the project. That is, people can't just turn up at >> discussion phase and throw a spanner in the works (as happens in so many >> committee run endeavours). >> >> Of course this relies on people knowing when they should ask for input on >> proposed changes. For me this is why merit is critical. For me merit >> indicates someone has learned when to ask permission as opposed to when to >> ask for forgiveness. >> >> If your experience in projects is different from mine with respect to lazy >> consensus, or if you prefer not to add this detail, I'll follow up with a >> post along the above lines. >> >> Sent from my mobile device. >> >> On 20 Sep 2010, at 21:20, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think I posted the link to a folder instead of a link to the doc. >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en >>> >>>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=15ru0kwhqAbT8QAVC5Bs0KMeT06ZP5RNnIIbEbeDVQjo&hl=en >>>> >>>> Care to read before I put it on the blog? >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> On 16/08/2010 23:03, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a goofy blog at blogger. Is there some mechanism for having an ASF >>>>>> blog? >>>>> >>>>> http://blogs.apache.org/comdev/ >>>>> >>>>> If you post your content here we'll get it up there for you (we've not >>>>> really worked out access rights to the blog yet so I'll not assume my own >>>>> preference is universal at this point). >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ross Gardler<rgard...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16/08/2010 22:37, Benson Margulies wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Recent discussions on various lists have led me to think about >>>>>>>> 'Consensus >>>>>>>> Process' as an area of possible effort for comdev. People are not born >>>>>>>> knowing how to operate a consensus process, and some discussions >>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> me that the communities might benefit from something written down as a >>>>>>>> aid >>>>>>>> memoire or training device. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sure that I could find some references on this subject, but I'm >>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> inclined to type up a somewhat personal introduction to consensus >>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>> and see if anyone thinks that it's worth further work and eventual >>>>>>>> publication. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Starting with a personal blog post on the topic would be great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may want to look at the content at >>>>>>> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/meritocraticGovernanceModel.xml - >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> particular section 2.4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This document discusses the mechanics of consensus and decision making >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> meritocratic project. However, it does not discuss the social aspects. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's always been my intention to bring that content here, but I've not >>>>>>> found the time yet. It's currently CC-BY-SA, but I'm happy to make it >>>>>>> available under an Apache Licence if it would compliment your work in >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ross >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >
