Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Kanchana Welagedara
Dear Rich, With reminiscing of helping out to organize ApacheCon Asia 2006 Asia ( Sri Lanka ), my first ever ApacheConf experience, let me write this you . Your dedication, guidance and tireless efforts have made a profound impact on Apache community . Apache conferences have flourished and have

Re: [PR] speaker coaching (comdev-site)

2023-11-08 Thread via GitHub
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Re: [PR] correct URL for mailing list (comdev-site)

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[PR] correct URL for mailing list (comdev-site)

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Re: [PR] speaker coaching (comdev-site)

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Re: [PR] speaker coaching (comdev-site)

2023-11-08 Thread via GitHub
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Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Owen Rubel wrote: > > "So rather than worry about these sort if artefacts of institutionalisation > or what bad KPIs \& wrong incentives can drive in a corporate world -- lets > just make sure together that these conferences are what we want." > > I kind of figur

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Owen Rubel
"So rather than worry about these sort if artefacts of institutionalisation or what bad KPIs \& wrong incentives can drive in a corporate world -- lets just make sure together that these conferences are what we want." I kind of figured that was the point of speaking up; to let you know how vendor

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 8 Nov 2023, at 13:03, Rich Bowen wrote: > Fyi, effective yesterday, I have stepped down as VP conferences. The > responsibility for that role has passed to VP marketing, but communication > around conferences will still happen on the planners mailing list, as it > has for many years. Thanks f

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rich, Thank you for your decade plus work as VP, Conferences. In my experience you’ve done tremendous work and yet I appreciate your choosing your focus to be here on Community. For those criticizing Rich’s personal decision as “bad” because “sales”. Please volunteer as a track chair. I was

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Owen Rubel
Well Ed, Feel free to take a look at any conference that has focused on sales/marketing. Vendors take over ALL TALKS. I used to speak at SpringOne, APIDays, APIWorld and others and the only way I get to speak these days is through 'pay-to-play'; they literally tell me that if I pay to be a vendor

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Ed Mangini
That's an assumption and conjecture. If it's a concern of yours, there are more productive ways to raise the issue and socialize avenues to protect the interests you're advocating for. On Wed, Nov 8, 2023, 10:00 Owen Rubel wrote: > Sales and marketing go hand in hand; marketing promotes sales

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Owen Rubel
Sales and marketing go hand in hand; marketing promotes sales and sales uses marketing materials to get sales. It is a mutually beneficial relationship. True events are about messaging BUT conferences are also about education. Too many conferences have gone down the route of merely pandering to v

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread rbowen
On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 06:33 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote: > Weak sauce. Once marketing takes over, conference talks become merely > part > of SALES. > > ApacheCon has been about learning... not SALES and MARKETING. I'm honestly torn as to whether this troll-y message merits a response. I'd expect som

Re: VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Owen Rubel
Weak sauce. Once marketing takes over, conference talks become merely part of SALES. ApacheCon has been about learning... not SALES and MARKETING. Owen Rubel oru...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:04 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > Fyi, effective yesterday, I have stepped down as VP conferences. Th

VP Conferences changes

2023-11-08 Thread Rich Bowen
Fyi, effective yesterday, I have stepped down as VP conferences. The responsibility for that role has passed to VP marketing, but communication around conferences will still happen on the planners mailing list, as it has for many years. It's my hope to get a little more engaged on the side of the