"So rather than worry about these sort if artefacts of institutionalisation
or what bad KPIs \& wrong incentives can drive in a corporate world -- lets
just make sure together that these conferences are what we want."

I kind of figured that was the point of speaking up; to let you know how
vendor based conferences end up pushing out engineers.

Owen Rubel
oru...@gmail.com


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 8:04 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>
wrote:

> On 8 Nov 2023, at 13:03, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
> > Fyi, effective yesterday, I have stepped down as VP conferences. The
> > responsibility for that role has passed to VP marketing, but
> communication
> > around conferences will still happen on the planners mailing list, as it
> > has for many years.
>
> Thanks for many years of undying service and making this event a community
> one !
> >
> > It's my hope to get a little more engaged on the side of the house,
> which,
> > of course, I've been trying to do for the last couple of years.
>
> Amen to that. And as to those that worry about this marketing `takeover'
> -- in the end of the day - the ASF, as a fully volunteer ran organisation,
> relies on us, as individuals, to strike that balance that makes these
> conferences so attractive to us volunteers & our community.  We, volunteers
> vote with our feet !
>
> So rather than worry about these sort if artefacts of institutionalisation
> or what bad KPIs \& wrong incentives can drive in a corporate world -- lets
> just make sure together that these conferences are what we want.
>
> :)
>
> Dw.
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