Sales and marketing go hand in hand; marketing promotes sales and sales
uses marketing materials to get sales. It is a mutually
beneficial relationship.

True events are about messaging BUT conferences are also about education.

Too many conferences have gone down the route of merely pandering to
vendors only and ignoring engineers.

Once you hand off to sales/marketing, thats the final straw. There is no
turning back. ApacheCon becomes purely about vendor sales/marketing, not
engineering

Owen Rubel
oru...@gmail.com


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 6:45 AM <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 06:33 -0800, Owen Rubel wrote:
> > Weak sauce. Once marketing takes over, conference talks become merely
> > part
> > of SALES.
> >
> > ApacheCon has been about learning... not SALES and MARKETING.
>
> I'm honestly torn as to whether this troll-y message merits a response.
>
> I'd expect someone with your deep experience in tech (This
> you? https://www.linkedin.com/in/owen-rubel-531197228/) to understand
> that sales and marketing are fundamentally different things.
>
> Events are fundamentally about *messaging* which is what marketing is
> about. Marketing has been an equal partner in the production of this
> event since the first one in 1998.
>
> We don't have products, and thus we have no sales.
>
> As always, you are more than welcome to come participate in the
> planning activities if you wish to shape that messaging.
>
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:04 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Fyi, effective yesterday, I have stepped down as VP conferences.
> > > The
> > > responsibility for that role has passed to VP marketing, but
> > > communication
> > > around conferences will still happen on the planners mailing list,
> > > as it
> > > has for many years.
> > >
> > > It's my hope to get a little more engaged on the side of the house,
> > > which,
> > > of course, I've been trying to do for the last couple of years.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
>
>
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