> -Original Message-
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flame...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Gary Gregory
> wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> Fr
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Are we still using this branch? I created it for work on the reflect
subpackage but later merged back to trunk... :|
-Matt
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, s...@apache.org wrote:
> From: s...@apache.org
> Subject: svn commit: r754584 - in
> /commons/proper/lang/branches/LANG_POST_2_4/src/java/org/apac
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory wrote:
> From: Gary Gregory
> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
> To: "Commons Developers List"
> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 2:39 PM
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, Marc
StandardToStringStyle seems to have nothing in but super calls to
ToStringStyle. I'm thinking why?
Looks like it just needs to exist and have the serialID and maybe the
constructor. The rest of it is just noise.
Any +1s to deleting all that code, or am I missing something?
Hen
-
My job responsibilities just recently involved converting 25K lines of
code to java 5. I can take on the varargs and generics stuff.
Paul
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> There'll be a lot of work in 3.0 I suspect. I'm going to pretend to
> organize it, y'all willing.
>
>
There'll be a lot of work in 3.0 I suspect. I'm going to pretend to
organize it, y'all willing.
= New JDK work done in most recent burst (r749101:r754602) =
* JDK 1.5 will be the targetted JVM.
* Deprecated code deleted.
* Enum, Enums, NestableExceptions and Random code moved to a
backcompat loca
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Gary Gregory
wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM
>> To: dev@commons.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>>
>> Gary Gregory wrote
Just in case anyone is sitting and wanting to do something on Lang and
not seeing the right thing to hit, LANG-396 has a good attachment from
Richard Wheeldon suggesting areas to apply varargs that needs someone
thinking about and sinking their teeth into.
Hen
> -Original Message-
> From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: dev@commons.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
> Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: sebb [mailto
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
>>> * Gump: I don't see compress here:
>>> http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/apache-commons/index.html
>>
>> Because you are looking at the wrong place 8-)
>> http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/commons-sandbox/index.html
>
> thanks,
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Gary Gregory
wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flame...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:21 AM
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>>
>> Starting up a thread for cleanup discu
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, sebb wrote:
> On 14/03/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>> Gary Gregory wrote:
>>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
>> >> To: Commons Developers List
>> >> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.
Sure. Split on a new thread, or if the previous thread ended up with
good concrete direction then make JIRA tickets and add patches. [Not
that you shouldn't commit... adding a patch on JIRA first seems to
work well for discussions].
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Oliver Heger
wrote:
> May I rep
Process:
* Mail list if you want feedback to sanity check the idea. If it survives that:
* Open up a JIRA ticket, post the code as a patch, discuss :)
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
>
> I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as much
> help as pos
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Niall Pemberton
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Rahul Akolkar
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Niall Pemberton
>>> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Rahul Akolkar
>>
On 14/03/2009, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
> >> To: Commons Developers List
> >> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
> >> >
>
> >> > And the vari
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added issue number for zip64 support, changed na
Jorg, nothing is wrong with that. I missed that option. Thanks for
pointing it out.
Paul
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Oliver Heger
wrote:
> May I repeat my proposal [1] to add some utility classes related to
> concurrency?
>
> Oliver
>
> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@commons.apache.org
>> * Gump: I don't see compress here:
>> http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/apache-commons/index.html
>
> Because you are looking at the wrong place 8-)
> http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/commons-sandbox/index.html
thanks, that helped :-)
>> * Stefan wrote: "I'd love to work on Zip64 supp
Thanks Siegfried!
Hopefully you met up, have some beer, and bring compress to fly with
that maven stuff :-)
Cheers
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Siegfried Goeschl
wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> if Dennis has no time I can help out during Hackathon - I owe him one or
> two favours already for mave
> Btw - I've had a success organizing this kind of thing on a wiki page.
> That worked very well for me with both Quartz work and Taglibs.
Thanks Hen, this is a good idea. I have added an wiki page too:
http://wiki.apache.org/commons/CompressRoadmap
Christian
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##language:en
= Compre
+1
2009/3/13 Stefan Bodewig
> Hi all,
>
> since I'm unsure whether a PROPOSAL is needed for existing sandbox
> components as old as compress I tried to be save and created one based
> on the old Jakarta template:
>
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/compress/trunk/PROPOSAL.txt?view
+1
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> since I'm unsure whether a PROPOSAL is needed for existing sandbox
> components as old as compress I tried to be save and created one based
> on the old Jakarta template:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/compress/trunk/PROPOSAL.txt?view=mark
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modified everything to fit to new implementation, creat
Siegfried Goeschl wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> if Dennis has no time I can help out during Hackathon - I owe him one or
> two favours already for maven-related help
If I can persuade my employer to let me go to ApacheCon, we could do it
together :-)
> Cheers,
>
> Siegfried Goeschl
>
> Christian
May I repeat my proposal [1] to add some utility classes related to
concurrency?
Oliver
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@commons.apache.org/msg08095.html
Henri Yandell schrieb:
Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (
Paul Benedict wrote:
> I am -1 on removing the enums package. It's still a useful design
> pattern even if Java 5 has native enum support. As one of the
> responsers noted, and as do I, I have used Apache Enum extensively and
> would not put the burden on developers to remove it just yet.
> Deprec
Gary Gregory wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>> >
>> > And the various other backwards incompatible changes that people have
>> >
I am -1 on removing the enums package. It's still a useful design
pattern even if Java 5 has native enum support. As one of the
responsers noted, and as do I, I have used Apache Enum extensively and
would not put the burden on developers to remove it just yet.
Deprecate the package for 3.0 and kill
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:36 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
>
> --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> > From: Gary Gregory
> > Subject: RE: [lang
> -Original Message-
> From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
> On 14/03/2009, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
> >
> > I'
--- On Sat, 3/14/09, Gary Gregory wrote:
> From: Gary Gregory
> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
> To: "Commons Developers List"
> Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 2:19 PM
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, March
> -Original Message-
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flame...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:21 AM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
> Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
Thanks for taking the lead :)
>
> I've remo
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Benson [mailto:gudnabr...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:57 AM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>
>
> I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as much
> help as possibl
I'd like to add a TypeUtils to the reflect subpackage, to provide as much help
as possible for discovering type parameters of generic types. I recently
commented in ClassUtils that a 3.0, Java5-compatible assignable test should
assume autoboxing == true (since one would think the assignable te
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:46 AM, sebb wrote:
> On 14/03/2009, bay...@apache.org wrote:
>> Author: bayard
>> Date: Sat Mar 14 16:29:28 2009
>> New Revision: 754482
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=754482&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Removing deprecated evaluateSet and translate methods [LAN
On 14/03/2009, bay...@apache.org wrote:
> Author: bayard
> Date: Sat Mar 14 16:29:28 2009
> New Revision: 754482
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=754482&view=rev
> Log:
> Removing deprecated evaluateSet and translate methods [LANG-438]
Unfortunately a lot of the Javadoc references t
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Henri Yandell wrote:
I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need
to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a
lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a branch, it lives
at the same level as trunk and will need its future to be decided
Luc Maisonobe wrote:
Fraction is up for debate. Do we cede this to Commons Math. Sure it
might add another jar to some people's code, but probably good for
them to be more aware of Math.
There is already a Fraction class in [math]. I'm not sure if it should
be removed from [lang]. If it was put
+1, it has currently more traffic and community support than some of the
proper components ;-)
Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> since I'm unsure whether a PROPOSAL is needed for existing sandbox
> components as old as compress I tried to be save and created one based
> on the old Jakarta temp
Hi Hen,
Henri Yandell wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible
> wrote:
[snip]
>> Therefore we may either ensure that a call to create will always reset
>> the builder in case of an IAE (CLI-177) or we can simply fix the tests
>> that use the builder by calling reset manually in
Henri Yandell a écrit :
> Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
>
> I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need
> to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a
> lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a branch, it lives
On 14/03/2009, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
>
> I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need
> to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a
> lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a b
FYI, I've removed the LangTwo 1.0 version from JIRA.
3.0 is the place to work on those features. We can then solve naming
when we're ready to release.
Hen
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
-
Starting up a thread for cleanup discussions on Lang.
I've removed the enum (was a blocker on JDK 5) and enums (people need
to use real enums now) packages from Lang's trunk and moved them to a
lang-backcompat sibling component. I've not made it a branch, it lives
at the same level as trunk and wi
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>> One more try :)
>>
>> Stating that the Java version is 1.4 on the website will be done
>> post-release (I'm going to split the CLI and CLI2 websites).
>
> Actually I could not let go this failing test with IBM JDK ru
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:56 AM, sebb wrote:
> On 13/03/2009, Henri Yandell wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>> > Henri Yandell wrote:
>> >
>> >> One more try :)
>> >>
>> >> Stating that the Java version is 1.4 on the website will be done
>> >> post-release (
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Russel Winder
wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 21:00 -0700, Henri Yandell wrote:
> [ . . . ]
>> The site is the CLI2 site. Post release I'm going to create a CLI-1
>> site and split the two, demoting the CLI2 site to the sandbox. Anyone
>> at Apache will then be ope
Btw - I've had a success organizing this kind of thing on a wiki page.
That worked very well for me with both Quartz work and Taglibs.
Hen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> since everybody seems to agree to promoting compress I collected several
> todos.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Niall Pemberton
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Rahul Akolkar
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Niall Pemberton
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Rahul Akolkar
>>> wrote:
>> I believe we've said in order for a component to be
Yep. My view is that we should charge in, do whatever is the right
thing and then when we're ready for release we can worry about back
compat and naming and package changing etc.
Please, please bring on the 1.5 desires :)
I'm also favourable to be 1.6+ if there's any value, I just haven't
found m
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