Re: [RESULT}[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

A release is always coming ;) I'll try to get the 4.1.6 ball rolling on Monday. Kind Regards, Brandon On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 3:56 PM Elliott Sims via dev wrote: > > Looks like this is out and there's a 5.0-rc release. Is a 4.1.6 release with > a fix for CASSANDRA-19668 coming? > > On Sat, Ju

Re: [RESULT}[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Looks like this is out and there's a 5.0-rc release. Is a 4.1.6 release with a fix for CASSANDRA-19668 coming? On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 2:39 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > The votes fails with a veto in place having made CASSANDRA-19668 an > 5.0-rc blocker. > > Once 19668 lands we will need an im

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed). Everyone who has > tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered > binding. A vote passes if there are at least three binding +1s and no -1's. > The vote passes with three binding +1s

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

+1 (we're off rhel7, woot!) On 7/17/24 15:20, Mick Semb Wever wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 at 21:40, Brandon Williams > wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:36 PM Mick Semb Wever mailto:m...@apache.org>> wrote: > > Should we remove the noboolean rpm from the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed). Everyone who has > tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered > binding. A vote passes if there are at least three binding +1s and no -1's. > +1 Checked - signing correct - checksums correct - source artefact

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 at 21:40, Brandon Williams wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:36 PM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > Should we remove the noboolean rpm from the release, given we have no > way to verify or test it ? > > Effectively, dropping centos:7 support from 5.0. > > I didn't look into wh

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:36 PM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > Should we remove the noboolean rpm from the release, given we have no way to > verify or test it ? > Effectively, dropping centos:7 support from 5.0. I didn't look into whether or not there were other distros that might need it. I shoul

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 at 13:10, Brandon Williams wrote: > +1 > > Note that centos7 went EOL on June 30th; I didn't test the noboolean > packages as a result. > Should we remove the noboolean rpm from the release, given we have no way to verify or test it ? Effectively, dropping centos:7 support

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

+1 Note that centos7 went EOL on June 30th; I didn't test the noboolean packages as a result. Kind Regards, Brandon On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 2:54 PM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > Proposing the third test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: d85d6750f90eaf799709a05d2f1c31189fce04fd > Gi

[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take3)

Proposing the third test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. sha1: d85d6750f90eaf799709a05d2f1c31189fce04fd Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative Maven Artifacts: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1338/org/apache/cassandra/cassandra

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

We capture this as part of our release lifecycle document: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=132320437We define releases from our “Beta” milestone onward as API-stable:BetaDefinition / Expectations:Should be interface-stable, so that consumers do not have to incur any

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

I see the argument. In reality though we can never truly guarantee that something is API stable, only our intent to keep it so if at all possible, right? On Wed, Jul 3, 2024, at 8:58 AM, Claude Warren, Jr wrote: > Because you do not know if the issues stopping the release will require an > API

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

. The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed). Everyone who has > tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered > binding. A vote passes if there are at least three binding +1s and no -1's. > > With a veto in place the vote fails.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

Agreed, I can attest to the importance of this issue as well. The bug is query- and data-dependent, but is such that previously-correct latency metrics that may ordinarily report latency in the 1ms range can incorrectly report latency as 70ms or higher due to measurement error. Users would obse

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

-1 I'm afraid we have found an issue with coordinator level latency metrics being artificially inflated for certain types of queries. Unfortunately this is a new regression, introduced by CASSANDRA-19534, so we shouldn't knowingly include it in the release. The good news is that only a subset

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

+1 Kind Regards, Brandon On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:21 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: 01eea8a0d74deaede236edb25335fa470502106e > Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative > Maven Artifacts: > https://repos

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

+1 nb Great to get the fix in so quickly. Thanks all! > On Jul 3, 2024, at 9:59 AM, Jon Haddad wrote: > > +1 > > Thanks Mick! > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:20 AM Mick Semb Wever > wrote: >> >> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. >> >> sha1: 01

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

+1 Thanks Mick! On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 4:20 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: 01eea8a0d74deaede236edb25335fa470502106e > Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative > Maven Artifacts: > https://repository.apach

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Because you do not know if the issues stopping the release will require an API change -- so is the API stable? On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 3:02 PM Josh McKenzie wrote: > Perhaps we should consider a Milestone release. At least in some projects > this is a way to provide a test bed with known issues

[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1 (take2)

Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. sha1: 01eea8a0d74deaede236edb25335fa470502106e Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative Maven Artifacts: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1337/org/apache/cassandra/cassandra-all/5

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

> Perhaps we should consider a Milestone release. At least in some projects > this is a way to provide a test bed with known issues that will be corrected > before an RC. How does that differ from beta in our lifecycle? API stable but a test bed to suss out issues like this. On Mon, Jul 1, 20

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Perhaps we should consider a Milestone release. At least in some projects this is a way to provide a test bed with known issues that will be corrected before an RC. On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 9:50 PM Jon Haddad wrote: > This came in after our vote, but we might also have a problem with > performin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

This came in after our vote, but we might also have a problem with performing schema changes after a full restart. Appears to only be if the entire cluster was shut down, according to the report. If it's true, this might affect anyone trying to restore from a backup. This would also be a blocker

[RESULT}[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

The votes fails with a veto in place having made CASSANDRA-19668 an 5.0-rc blocker. Once 19668 lands we will need an immediate release of 4.1.6 too. On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 06:49, Jon Haddad wrote: > Thanks for confirming this, Blake. I agree that we should not knowingly > ship new versions wi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Thanks for confirming this, Blake. I agree that we should not knowingly ship new versions with severe bugs that cause the DB to crash, regression or not. -1 from me as well On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:39 AM Blake Eggleston wrote: > Looking at the ticket, I’d say Jon’s concern is legitimate. The

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Looking at the ticket, I’d say Jon’s concern is legitimate. The segfaults Jon is seeing are probably caused by paxos V2 when combined with off heap memtables for the reason Benedict suggests in the JIRA. This problem will continue to exist in 5.0. Unfortunately, it looks like the patch posted is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

How do we expose this for the already GA’ed 4.1.0-4.1.5 which are in use out in the world already?I would be more worried about that than the as yet to be released 5.0.0 which is likely not going to be in production for anyone for at least a few weeks after GA if not months in most shops.Seems like

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

For those that want to go ahead, how do you to disclose to the community that there’s a serious risk to availability? Jon On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 7:52 PM Jeremy Hanna wrote: > It definitely looks like a good thing to investigate and fix. However, > it's not a regression and not new in 5.0. I

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

It definitely looks like a good thing to investigate and fix. However, it's not a regression and not new in 5.0. I think we should push forward with 5.0 and fix/release it separately in a 4.1.x and 5.0.x release. > On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Brandon Williams wrote: > > I don't know that w

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

I don't know that we expect to fix anything if we don't know it is affected yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Kind Regards, Brandon On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:37 PM Aleksey Yeshchenko wrote: > > Not voting on this, however, if we expect to fix something specific between > an RC and GA, then we shouldn’t be starti

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Not voting on this, however, if we expect to fix something specific between an RC and GA, then we shouldn’t be starting a vote on RC. In that case it should be another beta. > On 27 Jun 2024, at 18:30, Brandon Williams wrote: > > The last time paxos v2 blocked us in CASSANDRA-19617 which also

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

The last time paxos v2 blocked us in CASSANDRA-19617 which also affected 4.1, I didn't get a sense of strong usage from the community, so I agree that RC shouldn't be blocked but this can get fixed before GA. +1 from me. Kind Regards, Brandon On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:11 PM Jon Haddad wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Blake or Benedict - can either of you speak to Jon's concerns around CASSANDRA-19668? On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 12:18 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote: > > +1 > > > >> On Jun 25, 2024, at 5:04 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: >>  >> >> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. >> >> sha1: b

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

+1 > On Jun 25, 2024, at 5:04 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > >  > > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: b43f0b2e9f4cb5105764ef9cf4ece404a740539a > Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative > Maven Artifacts: > https://repository.apache.o

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

5.0 is a massive milestone. A huge thank you to everyone that's invested their time into the release. I've done a lot of testing, benchmarking, and tire kicking and it's truly mind blowing how much has gone into 5.0 and how great it is for the community. I am a bit concerned that CASSANDRA-19668

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

. Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: b43f0b2e9f4cb5105764ef9cf4ece404a740539a > Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative > Maven Artifacts: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1336/org/apache/cassandra/cas

[VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-rc1

Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release. sha1: b43f0b2e9f4cb5105764ef9cf4ece404a740539a Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative Maven Artifacts: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1336/org/apache/cassandra/cassandra-all/5