Because you do not know if the issues stopping the release will require an
API change -- so is the API stable?

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 3:02 PM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:

> Perhaps we should consider a Milestone release.  At least in some projects
> this is a way to provide a test bed with known issues that will be
> corrected before an RC.
>
> How does that differ from beta in our lifecycle? API stable but a test bed
> to suss out issues like this.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, at 9:30 AM, Claude Warren, Jr via dev wrote:
>
> Perhaps we should consider a Milestone release.  At least in some projects
> this is a way to provide a test bed with known issues that will be
> corrected before an RC.
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 9:50 PM Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
>
> This came in after our vote, but we might also have a problem with
> performing schema changes after a full restart.  Appears to only be if the
> entire cluster was shut down, according to the report.  If it's true, this
> might affect anyone trying to restore from a backup.  This would also be a
> blocker for me, if that's the case.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19735
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 9:49 PM Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for confirming this, Blake. I agree that we should not knowingly
> ship new versions with severe bugs that cause the DB to crash, regression
> or not.
>
> -1 from me as well
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 1:39 AM Blake Eggleston <beggles...@apple.com>
> wrote:
>
> Looking at the ticket, I’d say Jon’s concern is legitimate. The segfaults
> Jon is seeing are probably caused by paxos V2 when combined with off heap
> memtables for the reason Benedict suggests in the JIRA. This problem will
> continue to exist in 5.0. Unfortunately, it looks like the patch posted is
> not enough to address the issue and will need to be a bit more involved to
> properly fix the problem.
>
> While this is not a regression, I think Jon’s point about trie memtables
> increasing usage of off heap memtables is a good one, and anyway we
> shouldn’t be doing major releases with known process crashing bugs.
>
> So I’m voting -1 on this release and will work with Jon and Benedict to
> get this fixed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blake
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:47 AM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Blake or Benedict - can either of you speak to Jon's concerns around
> CASSANDRA-19668?
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 12:18 AM, Jeff Jirsa wrote:
>
>
> +1
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2024, at 5:04 AM, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 5.0-rc1 for release.
>
> sha1: b43f0b2e9f4cb5105764ef9cf4ece404a740539a
> Git: https://github.com/apache/cassandra/tree/5.0-rc1-tentative
> Maven Artifacts:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1336/org/apache/cassandra/cassandra-all/5.0-rc1/
>
> The Source and Build Artifacts, and the Debian and RPM packages and
> repositories, are available here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cassandra/5.0-rc1/
>
> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed). Everyone who has
> tested the build is invited to vote. Votes by PMC members are considered
> binding. A vote passes if there are at least three binding +1s and no -1's.
>
> [1]: CHANGES.txt:
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/5.0-rc1-tentative/CHANGES.txt
> [2]: NEWS.txt:
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/5.0-rc1-tentative/NEWS.txt
>
>
>

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